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Post by GBG on Sept 9, 2024 15:14:20 GMT -5
Our GM should stop accepting mediocrity and instead try to maximize the talent around a top 10 player of all time. He's pushed all of his chips in on 2 injury prone guys. It's very concerning. I get your point but letting Murray walk doesn’t help. It’s not like we can even come close to replacing him. This point is obvious to any rational fan.
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Post by pie on Sept 9, 2024 20:35:06 GMT -5
Does Jamal Murray have a tradeable contract? How soon can we trade him?
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Post by famicommander on Sept 9, 2024 21:32:20 GMT -5
Nobody is going to want to trade for him unless he returns to his form from the playoffs two years ago. And if he does that, we won't want to trade him.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 10, 2024 5:59:36 GMT -5
Our GM should stop accepting mediocrity and instead try to maximize the talent around a top 10 player of all time. He's pushed all of his chips in on 2 injury prone guys. It's very concerning. I get your point but letting Murray walk doesn’t help. It’s not like we can even come close to replacing him. Kinda like how Strawther doesnt replace KCP
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Post by TNF on Sept 10, 2024 12:46:42 GMT -5
Not yet.
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Post by famicommander on Sept 10, 2024 13:02:51 GMT -5
Even if Strawther has a great year we're still going to miss KCP and Holiday.
We had INCREDIBLE luck last year with respect to Braun and KCP's availability but we still needed quite a few minutes and games from both Holiday and Strawther.
Do we think Braun is going to play 82 games again? Do we think Strawther will play 76 games like KCP did last year? And even if they do, what about the games and minutes we needed from Strawther and Holiday last year? Who replaces those?
Last year Braun - 82 games, 1655 minutes (replacing KCP as starter) KCP - 76 games, 2404 minutes (gone) Holiday - 58 games, 562 minutes (gone) Strawther - 50 games, 545 minutes (replacing Braun as backup)
The only other options this season are Russ, Jamal, and Trey (50 active game limit) unless you want to try to watch Vlatko or Watson play guard (I really, really don't). So I guess we can expect a lot of two PG sets, even though we're incredibly shallow at that position too.
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Post by rock on Sept 10, 2024 14:01:03 GMT -5
I get your point but letting Murray walk doesn’t help. It’s not like we can even come close to replacing him. Kinda like how Strawther doesnt replace KCP Of course not. That’s not the only reason we let kcp go
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Post by rock on Sept 10, 2024 14:01:51 GMT -5
Even if Strawther has a great year we're still going to miss KCP and Holiday. We had INCREDIBLE luck last year with respect to Braun and KCP's availability but we still needed quite a few minutes and games from both Holiday and Strawther. Do we think Braun is going to play 82 games again? Do we think Strawther will play 76 games like KCP did last year? And even if they do, what about the games and minutes we needed from Strawther and Holiday last year? Who replaces those? Last year Braun - 82 games, 1655 minutes (replacing KCP as starter) KCP - 76 games, 2404 minutes (gone) Holiday - 58 games, 562 minutes (gone) Strawther - 50 games, 545 minutes (replacing Braun as backup) The only other options this season are Russ, Jamal, and Trey (50 active game limit) unless you want to try to watch Vlatko or Watson play guard (I really, really don't). So I guess we can expect a lot of two PG sets, even though we're incredibly shallow at that position too. I’d feel way more confident this year if we even replaced Pickett with holiday.
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Post by famicommander on Sept 10, 2024 14:05:06 GMT -5
Even if Strawther has a great year we're still going to miss KCP and Holiday. We had INCREDIBLE luck last year with respect to Braun and KCP's availability but we still needed quite a few minutes and games from both Holiday and Strawther. Do we think Braun is going to play 82 games again? Do we think Strawther will play 76 games like KCP did last year? And even if they do, what about the games and minutes we needed from Strawther and Holiday last year? Who replaces those? Last year Braun - 82 games, 1655 minutes (replacing KCP as starter) KCP - 76 games, 2404 minutes (gone) Holiday - 58 games, 562 minutes (gone) Strawther - 50 games, 545 minutes (replacing Braun as backup) The only other options this season are Russ, Jamal, and Trey (50 active game limit) unless you want to try to watch Vlatko or Watson play guard (I really, really don't). So I guess we can expect a lot of two PG sets, even though we're incredibly shallow at that position too. I’d feel way more confident this year if we even replaced Pickett with holiday. He's a versatile, smart, defensively responsible guy who can play multiple positions and hit 3s. I'd prefer him over DJ as the new veteran statesman, to be honest.
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Post by scooter on Sept 11, 2024 10:50:55 GMT -5
Nobody is going to want to trade for him unless he returns to his form from the playoffs two years ago. And if he does that, we won't want to trade him. The last part is true, but I cannot agree with the basic premise. First, Murray was very good last season until a combination of factors (very physical playoff matchups, fatigue, injuries) made him uncharacteristically bad in the playoffs. His regular season was his most effective one yet — highest in FG%, 3FG%, Assist average, WS, WS/48, VORP — and missing 23 games isn’t ideal but isn’t terrible either. Second, there are scores of players who make what Murray makes or relatively close to it (or more). This season, Murray is at $36 mil. 67 NBA players this coming season have a cap hit of $25 mil+, including the likes of Simmons (40), Williamson ($36 mil for 37 games/year so far), Isaac ($25 mil for 29 games/year over a 7 year career), Ingram (37), Beal (50), Towns (49), Poole (30), Vassell (29), Claxton (29), Grant (30), Young (43) and various other highly paid players who haven’t won squat. 93 players have a cap hit of at least $19 mil this coming season. The Nuggets could trade Murray 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. They’ve chosen not to, but it’s way way far from impossible (“nobody”), and the FO could have opted against the extension and instead traded him. The Raptors would have traded either Barrett ($26 mil) or Brown ($23 mil) + either Boucher ($11 mil) or Olynyk ($13 mil) for Murray in a second, just to give an example. There are lots of others — Jordan Poole anyone?
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Post by wicked3line on Sept 13, 2024 9:02:59 GMT -5
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Post by GBG on Sept 13, 2024 10:12:09 GMT -5
If we don’t extend AG, our championship window is closed for good, in the Jokic era. Maybe we trade him instead for a guy like…Jerami Grant? 😂
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 14, 2024 5:15:58 GMT -5
I have almost no complaints about AG. Comes in with his body in tip top shape and is elite and consistent about what he does
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 14, 2024 5:17:04 GMT -5
If we don’t extend AG, our championship window is closed for good, in the Jokic era. Maybe we trade him instead for a guy like…Jerami Grant? 😂 Now why the f**k wouldnt we extend AG? This saving money, being smarter (cheaper) than every other team going too far Oufff i just realized. AG isnt one of Booths guys 🥶
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Post by famicommander on Sept 14, 2024 12:26:18 GMT -5
Gotta let AG walk so they can afford to give Zeke a 25 year max contract extension
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Post by duh88 on Sept 14, 2024 22:50:38 GMT -5
Gotta let AG walk so they can afford to give Zeke a 25 year max contract extension that was funny
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 15, 2024 7:04:11 GMT -5
People legit should be scared we replace AG with Holmes
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Post by scooter on Sept 15, 2024 11:29:20 GMT -5
People legit should be scared we replace AG with Holmes If Holmes didn’t get injured and looked exceptionally good early, that might have been on the table. Now, not so much.
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Post by famicommander on Sept 15, 2024 12:53:18 GMT -5
People legit should be scared we replace AG with Holmes If Holmes didn’t get injured and looked exceptionally good early, that might have been on the table. Now, not so much. Zeke hasn't looked good or particularly healthy at any point in his career and they still bid against themselves to commit long term to him.
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Post by scooter on Sept 15, 2024 13:24:21 GMT -5
If Holmes didn’t get injured and looked exceptionally good early, that might have been on the table. Now, not so much. Zeke hasn't looked good or particularly healthy at any point in his career and they still bid against themselves to commit long term to him. That was a plan to create a $8 mil salary to trade (probably in a package with a rookie contract guy), since the Nuggets lacked any middle-ish salaries on the roster. It backfired since Nnaji’s weaknesses got exposed too much. I thought it was a bad idea since I never thought much of him and doubted he’d be a useful NBA player for anyone.
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