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Post by Ring on May 29, 2024 15:22:41 GMT -5
I can't imagine how bad the bench will be if Braun is asked to fill KCP's role. I can talk about KCP's clutchness/leadership but to put as plainly as possible, the Nuggets need NBA players in their rotation and can't afford to lose one. if he walks, we're in trouble. Well that's the real problem. You have a guy who can replace KCP in Braun (Braun will be a better rebounder/cutter/defender against bigger guards, KCP a better shooter, DHO guy, etc) but do you have a guy who can replace Braun on the roster? Only if you keep Holiday. The Nuggets are fucked when it comes to depth. They've invested all of their money into a starting 5 (that failed) so your only bench options are draft picks and vet mins. It's just not easy coming up with a + bench when those are your options. Very interested to see what they get in the Zeke trade. |
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Post by jimijam28 on May 29, 2024 15:39:24 GMT -5
Blow it up
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Post by famicommander on May 29, 2024 15:40:26 GMT -5
The Zeke contract is still so utterly baffling.
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Post by TNF on May 29, 2024 16:23:33 GMT -5
Will Zeke ever play two games in a row?
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Post by GBG on May 29, 2024 18:28:19 GMT -5
NT was also sniffing hella Calvin farts last summer. I can only remember JB also being upset with his summer preformance I was pretty bummed about Reggie, DJ, and Holiday. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the picks. I was pissed about Zeke. Holiday ended up being the best move of that bunch by a lot. Early prediction: We are signing another Holiday in free agency, this time Aaron. Heās better than washed Reggie and the youngest of the three Holiday brothers. Marlowe will get confused. Got good intel from his brother about this team, and wants to sign if no once gives him a lot more. Sees this as his āBruce Brown planā to get paid later. |
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Post by AbdulJabber on May 29, 2024 23:12:58 GMT -5
The only trade proposal I see for Zeke is to the Hornets for Micic. Micic only has two years left at 7.7 per year, so we save a couple million and get a guy who can play point guard and had some flashes of looking pretty solid. Might make Jok happy and could be good for micic.
Don't know why the Hornets do it though. Micic actually looks like a guy who can play basketball.
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Post by duh88 on May 30, 2024 3:18:48 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was happy with the Reggie move this offseason but last year Calvin basically only hit home runs. Landed CB post lottery who was a rotation player on a Champion as a rookie. Flipped Monte and Barton (1 who isn't in the NBA anymore) for a starting 2 guard in KCP as a Champion. Grabbed Reggie via buyout when he was one of the most popular names available. Drafted P Wat at 30 who late last year showed potential. Navigated the Bones situation about as well as possible. This offseason he got too arrogant and/or his priorities weren't correct. Thought everything he did would turn to gold and he found out the hard way that wasn't true. I still think Strawther is going to hit - we'll see what happens on Pick and Tyson. I still put a lot of blame on Malone tho. He could have played DJ more - or CG or Pick to relieve Jokic and Murray. |
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 2, 2024 15:17:41 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was happy with the Reggie move this offseason but last year Calvin basically only hit home runs. Landed CB post lottery who was a rotation player on a Champion as a rookie. Flipped Monte and Barton (1 who isn't in the NBA anymore) for a starting 2 guard in KCP as a Champion. Grabbed Reggie via buyout when he was one of the most popular names available. Drafted P Wat at 30 who late last year showed potential. Navigated the Bones situation about as well as possible. This offseason he got too arrogant and/or his priorities weren't correct. Thought everything he did would turn to gold and he found out the hard way that wasn't true. I still think Strawther is going to hit - we'll see what happens on Pick and Tyson. I still put a lot of blame on Malone tho. He could have played DJ more - or CG or Pick to relieve Jokic and Murray.Ā I concur that if KCP leaves via free agency and CB moves into the starting lineup as expected, Strawther will have an increased role off the bench as a wing backup to both CB and MPJ. However, I'd bet Calvin will attempt to trade Zeke away (likely in combo with 28th pick) for a backup combo PG/SG to improve bench scoring and depth behind Jamal. I just don't see Pickett filling that role at all and if Reggie doesn't opt out his role will decrease this year to a more Ish Smith/DJ vet support action. |
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Post by duh88 on Jun 2, 2024 15:40:22 GMT -5
Zeke and a first for a playmaker off the bench?
Love it!
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Post by jimijam28 on Jun 2, 2024 17:11:12 GMT -5
Dream on , we getting s**t for pussy hands
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Post by duh88 on Jun 2, 2024 22:14:05 GMT -5
Dream on , we getting s**t for pussy hands Brother - the value is the 1st round pick not Zeke! Rookie contracts are currency with the new cba. |
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 3, 2024 12:28:30 GMT -5
even though he's been one of the most thoroughly trashed players I've ever seen, Hayward is worth taking a flier on for the vet min it's very possible he just didn't fit with the NCAA vibes in OKC and could contribute in a bench role with the Nuggets. you don't go from averaging 14/5/5/ on .544 TS% with the Hornets to completely washed after one plane ride to Oklahoma. Would much rather bring back Gary Harris, someone familiar with our program who shouldnāt cost much. Will be 30 next season. Both Hayward and Harris have terrible injury histories, but Gary could replace part of what we will lose if KCP walks. Bring back Garris. Keep finding more and more references to Booth/KSE desiring Hayward. Normally I don't take this stuff too seriously as most is just click-bait. However, there is an increasing amount of smoke here with Hayward that suggets something involving him is in the works via FA. While getting more than 50-60 games is unlikely, getting Hayward for a vet minimum or tax payer MLE (which isn't that much higher than 10+ year vet minimum) for the year isn't horrible. |
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Post by famicommander on Jun 3, 2024 12:30:11 GMT -5
Gordon Hayward is a terrible idea. Never stays healthy and turns 35 next year. Hard pass.
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Post by JB on Jun 3, 2024 12:48:01 GMT -5
Hayward at the vet min is the textbook definition of a low risk high reward move.
whether we sign GH or not, hopefully this signals the end of Calvin's goonies movement. flooding the roster with players that can't help you defend the title was not the most prudent move.
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Post by famicommander on Jun 3, 2024 12:49:44 GMT -5
Signing guys who always get hurt is dumb, straight up.
We have enough to worry about with Murray and MPJ staying on the court.
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Post by JB on Jun 3, 2024 13:00:52 GMT -5
as I said earlier, Gordan Hayward pre-trade was a 15/5/5 on league average ts%
guys who are capable of giving you that kind of production are not signing for the vet min unless they come with baggage. this is the best we can hope for.
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Post by famicommander on Jun 3, 2024 13:26:01 GMT -5
as I said earlier, Gordan Hayward pre-trade was a 15/5/5 on league average ts% guys who are capable of giving you that kind of production are not signing for the vet min unless they come with baggage. this is the best we can hope for. Games played for Hayward 2024: 51 2023: 50 2022: 49 2021: 44 2020: 52 2019: 72 2018: 1 It'll probably get better when he's 35, right? Come on. It's literally asking for trouble. We need to add multiple players and we have few available roster spots to do it. Wasting one on a 35 year old man duct taped together is ludicrous. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 3, 2024 14:10:00 GMT -5
even though he's been one of the most thoroughly trashed players I've ever seen, Hayward is worth taking a flier on for the vet min it's very possible he just didn't fit with the NCAA vibes in OKC and could contribute in a bench role with the Nuggets. you don't go from averaging 14/5/5/ on .544 TS% with the Hornets to completely washed after one plane ride to Oklahoma. Considering their war chest of draft picks, the Thunder didnāt trade a lot for Hayward, so Prestiās quote suggests something more than just Hayward didnāt help them much. Iām just guessing here, but maybe he complained a bit about not getting more minutes. |
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Post by JB on Jun 3, 2024 14:10:22 GMT -5
the only thing ludicrous is hanging on to Jalen Pickett, Hunter Tyson and Jay Huff over an undeniable upgrade like Gordon Hayward.
put it like this, I'll trust Gordon Hayward in a reduced bench role to play 70% of the regular season + playoffs way before I trust any of the scrubs I just mentioned to play meaningful NBA minutes for the Denver Nuggets. Calvin already wasted a prime Jokic year and that is a fireable offense in my opinion. he can't waste two trying to do his best Tim Connelly impression.
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 3, 2024 14:19:10 GMT -5
Games played for Hayward 2024: 51 2023: 50 2022: 49 2021: 44 2020: 52 2019: 72 2018: 1 It'll probably get better when he's 35, right? Come on. It's literally asking for trouble. We need to add multiple players and we have few available roster spots to do it. Wasting one on a 35 year old man duct taped together is ludicrous. To be fair, this history was attempting to play Hayward 30+ mins/game as a starter yet it is obvious you can't get more than 50-55 games doing that with his body. Given that reality, nobody expects Hayward on a vet minimum to be more than a rotation player off the bench for maybe 20 mins/game to spell players at the wing position instead of starting. He would help the bench scoring issues Nuggets had this past year as that's where a team can best utilize him at this stage (especially as a 34 to 35 year old player). If it doesn't work out, not a huge deal being a vet minimum but given Nuggets already being above the 1st apron and possibly the 2nd apron...outside of trading MPJ (seems KSE is making that look unlikely), there simply aren't many options to improve the bench besides hoping a late 1st or 2nd round draft pick excells. |
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