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Post by GBG on May 27, 2024 23:57:28 GMT -5
we'll see. letting KCP walk and committing eternally to MPJ and Calvin's second-round draft disappointments is Einstein's definition of insanity, only we'll be even worse and the odds of (serious) injury to one of the starters will be significantly higher. we would be committing serious basketball malpractice to squander the remainder of Jokic's prime in such a manner. Not saying I disagree with that as I'd rather see MPJ traded while keeping KCP. However, you better start preparing yourself for KCP to leave (Sixers) while MPJ is on next year's team as KSE is sending multiple signals that this is exactly what they are planning to do. Orlando is where KCP is headed if he leaves Nuggets. They are rumored to be preparing an offer, and Orlando is considerably closer to his home state of Georgia. Also, Magic is an up and coming franchise in the East. 76’ers are one season ending injury of Embiid away from irrelevance. Also, no state income tax in Florida. We could refill the hole partially by signing a vet minimum free agent who was with Orlando the past few years. His name is Gary Harris.
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Post by duh88 on May 28, 2024 2:25:52 GMT -5
Your burner account, obviously. JB doesn't need burner accounts. Dude posts his thoughts quite clearly, without care for whether the opinions have a fanbase behind them or not. Note: I'm a fan. JB is damn intelligent (even tho I vehemently disagree with 20% of what he says).
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Post by JB on May 28, 2024 6:56:37 GMT -5
appreciate the kind words brother ![](https://media.tenor.com/UnFIXmkRZtIAAAAC/kanye-west-john-mayer.gif)
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Post by Ring on May 28, 2024 13:54:22 GMT -5
That's why those saying ti save a roster soit for the buyout market are misinformed at least for this coming year if we are 2nd apron which is what we'll br with everyone back. Makes not doing it this year even worse. What was Calvin thinking with 4 rookies smh Very simply he thought he could have his cake and eat it too. Nuggets win a Championship because of their starting 5 while also adding multiple cost controlled, cheap younger players that can hopefully contribute. It was idiotic at the time and proved to play out that way. It's a whole different ballgame if 2 or 3 of those guys were top 15 picks. Then I could better understand his thought process.
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Post by famicommander on May 28, 2024 14:05:17 GMT -5
Calvin was sniffing his own farts based off the Braun and Watson picks. Thought he had some kind of magic touch with his picks. He forgot all about the Kamagate pick, though.
I still think Strawther will work out long term. He won't be a star but I think he'll be a rotation guy in this league a long time. I think Pickett's success is all dependent upon his ability (or lack thereof) to develop handles. Odds are against it but it's a nonzero chance. I think Tyson will end up in Europe/Asia/Australia/G-League as soon as his contract is up (could be bought out before then if he's traded)
What's clear in any case is that none were ready to contribute to a contender, though.
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Post by famicommander on May 28, 2024 14:12:42 GMT -5
I do think this offseason will be very beneficial for Christian Braun. We forget that he pretty much missed the whole preseason and training camp because of an injury. He had to catch up on the fly coming off his rookie year, and his responsibilities this year greatly expanded.
Same can be said for Gillespie if we bring him back.
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Post by JB on May 28, 2024 14:34:13 GMT -5
Calvin's goonies idea was doomed from the start because of the implementation, not because the strategy was necessarily wrong.
Malone was never going to warm up to the players Calvin drafted because they can't defend. I vividly remembering saying this at the time.
I thought Calvin understood this point when he drafted Braun and Watson, but apparently not. Malone is only going to let your bad defense go if you have grey hair and use Just For Men. bottom line.
now if the idea was drafting a bench full of defensive dogs that hopefully develop an offensive skill or two, signing or trading for a vet not named Reggie Jackson to tie everything together and give consistent offensive production every night, I probably would've actually be on board with that plan, and Malone would've too. but Calvin fumbled the bag.
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Post by famicommander on May 28, 2024 16:59:26 GMT -5
Calvin's goonies idea was doomed from the start because of the implementation, not because the strategy was necessarily wrong. Malone was never going to warm up to the players Calvin drafted because they can't defend. I vividly remembering saying this at the time. I thought Calvin understood this point when he drafted Braun and Watson, but apparently not. Malone is only going to let your bad defense go if you have grey hair and use Just For Men. bottom line. now if the idea was drafting a bench full of defensive dogs that hopefully develop an offensive skill or two, signing or trading for a vet not named Reggie Jackson to tie everything together and give consistent offensive production every night, I probably would've actually be on board with that plan, and Malone would've too. but Calvin fumbled the bag. Only Hunter Tyson can't defend. Strawther and Pickett are both better defensive players than they are offensive players by quite a bit.
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Post by JB on May 28, 2024 17:06:16 GMT -5
that's not saying much, unfortunately.
we're in championship mode and Christian Braun is basically the floor of the defensive aptitude required for Malone to trust a rookie. and defensively, Julian Strawther and Jalen Pickett are no Christian Braun.
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Post by famicommander on May 28, 2024 17:15:55 GMT -5
that's not saying much, unfortunately. we're in championship mode and Christian Braun is basically the floor of the defensive aptitude required for Malone to trust a rookie. and defensively, Julian Strawther and Jalen Pickett are no Christian Braun. I think Strawther would've been in the rotation if he could've hit shots. I think his defense was acceptable this year. Pickett, he's too unplayable on offense for his defense to be relevant anyway.
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Post by JB on May 28, 2024 17:23:19 GMT -5
even though he's been one of the most thoroughly trashed players I've ever seen, Hayward is worth taking a flier on for the vet min
it's very possible he just didn't fit with the NCAA vibes in OKC and could contribute in a bench role with the Nuggets.
you don't go from averaging 14/5/5/ on .544 TS% with the Hornets to completely washed after one plane ride to Oklahoma.
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Post by GBG on May 28, 2024 18:50:52 GMT -5
even though he's been one of the most thoroughly trashed players I've ever seen, Hayward is worth taking a flier on for the vet min it's very possible he just didn't fit with the NCAA vibes in OKC and could contribute in a bench role with the Nuggets. you don't go from averaging 14/5/5/ on .544 TS% with the Hornets to completely washed after one plane ride to Oklahoma. Would much rather bring back Gary Harris, someone familiar with our program who shouldn’t cost much. Will be 30 next season. Both Hayward and Harris have terrible injury histories, but Gary could replace part of what we will lose if KCP walks. Bring back Garris.
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Post by jimijam28 on May 28, 2024 18:53:36 GMT -5
Please don't
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Post by JB on May 29, 2024 10:39:34 GMT -5
Butler is negotiating through the media that he wants a 2/113m extension from the Heat which is never a good sign
hopefully Morey's plan A works out and he gets his S&T for Paul George, which takes Philly off the board as a FA player. can't see KCP taking the bag from the Pistons or Raptors over remaining with the Nuggets.
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Post by GBG on May 29, 2024 11:44:50 GMT -5
Mike Singer said on a podcast yesterday that there is less than a 50% chance KCP remains with Nuggets. He put it at 45%, fwiw.
Singer isn’t with Post anymore because he’s finishing a 300+ page book called “The Untold Story of Nikola Jokic”, with Jokic’s blessing and participation. He wanted the Forward written by none other Bill Walton, but that is no longer possible. Walton idolized Jokic and would have done it in a heartbeat.
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Post by Ring on May 29, 2024 12:21:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect KCP back either tbh. CB can do everything KCP can do (except shoot) and he costs a lot less than KCP.
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Post by JB on May 29, 2024 12:37:06 GMT -5
I can't imagine how bad the bench will be if Braun is asked to fill KCP's role.
I can talk about KCP's clutchness/leadership but to put as plainly as possible, the Nuggets need NBA players in their rotation and can't afford to lose one. if he walks, we're in trouble.
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 29, 2024 13:22:43 GMT -5
Calvin was sniffing his own farts based off the Braun and Watson picks. Thought he had some kind of magic touch with his picks. He forgot all about the Kamagate pick, though. I still think Strawther will work out long term. He won't be a star but I think he'll be a rotation guy in this league a long time. I think Pickett's success is all dependent upon his ability (or lack thereof) to develop handles. Odds are against it but it's a nonzero chance. I think Tyson will end up in Europe/Asia/Australia/G-League as soon as his contract is up (could be bought out before then if he's traded) What's clear in any case is that none were ready to contribute to a contender, though. NT was also sniffing hella Calvin farts last summer. I can only remember JB also being upset with his summer preformance
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Post by famicommander on May 29, 2024 13:33:37 GMT -5
Calvin was sniffing his own farts based off the Braun and Watson picks. Thought he had some kind of magic touch with his picks. He forgot all about the Kamagate pick, though. I still think Strawther will work out long term. He won't be a star but I think he'll be a rotation guy in this league a long time. I think Pickett's success is all dependent upon his ability (or lack thereof) to develop handles. Odds are against it but it's a nonzero chance. I think Tyson will end up in Europe/Asia/Australia/G-League as soon as his contract is up (could be bought out before then if he's traded) What's clear in any case is that none were ready to contribute to a contender, though. NT was also sniffing hella Calvin farts last summer. I can only remember JB also being upset with his summer preformance I was pretty bummed about Reggie, DJ, and Holiday. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the picks. I was pissed about Zeke. Holiday ended up being the best move of that bunch by a lot.
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Post by Ring on May 29, 2024 15:20:38 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was happy with the Reggie move this offseason but last year Calvin basically only hit home runs.
Landed CB post lottery who was a rotation player on a Champion as a rookie. Flipped Monte and Barton (1 who isn't in the NBA anymore) for a starting 2 guard in KCP as a Champion. Grabbed Reggie via buyout when he was one of the most popular names available. Drafted P Wat at 30 who late last year showed potential. Navigated the Bones situation about as well as possible.
This offseason he got too arrogant and/or his priorities weren't correct. Thought everything he did would turn to gold and he found out the hard way that wasn't true.
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