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Post by famicommander on Sept 6, 2024 16:50:04 GMT -5
They didn't even have to get rid of Pickett to keep Gillespie. Gillespie signed a two-way in Phoenix, and we could've matched and retained him instead of signing Jones.
So it's not even that Booth chose Pickett over Gillespie. He went a step further and chased Gillespie out of town (to a PG-needy conference rival) just so that Malone would have fewer guys ahead of Pickett on the depth chart. I hope he doesn't do the same to Trey when he eats up the emergency guard minutes this year over Pickett.
And CG wasn't just Malone's pet guy. DeAndre insisted on sitting with CG on plane rides. Murray rode to and from games and practices with CG every day. Holiday and Reggie were both very vocal in their praise of CG last year. He was a very, very popular guy in the whole room.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:31:11 GMT -5
Im shocked! Lmao Nuggets used to have great vibes. Now we have a GM that believe he is the GM Jesus. I bet Malone wanted to keep KCP. I bet Jokic also saw value in KCP. Booth definitely is an arrogant GM. When you think you're the smartest guy in the room.......you better be the smartest guy in the room. Worked out with CB/KCP. Blew up in his face with Pickett/Tyson and we'll see about Strawther. Booth has still done more good than bad but he should be on the hot seat if the Nuggets under achieve again. However, it's hard for me to kill the guy if Murray is all time bad in the playoffs again. Nothing Booth can do can offset the 2nd best player on the team being historically bad for an entire playoff run. What i think of Booth moves is meaningless If the reports are true that there is legit friction between Booth and Malone, then that is serious and concering. This should be the glory days.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:33:37 GMT -5
Im shocked! Lmao Nuggets used to have great vibes. Now we have a GM that believe he is the GM Jesus. I bet Malone wanted to keep KCP. I bet Jokic also saw value in KCP. Booth definitely is an arrogant GM. When you think you're the smartest guy in the room.......you better be the smartest guy in the room. Worked out with CB/KCP. Blew up in his face with Pickett/Tyson and we'll see about Strawther. Booth has still done more good than bad but he should be on the hot seat if the Nuggets under achieve again. However, it's hard for me to kill the guy if Murray is all time bad in the playoffs again. Nothing Booth can do can offset the 2nd best player on the team being historically bad for an entire playoff run. And there is things a GM can do. There are loads of things he can di to prevent Jamal having no gas in the playoffs. Like giving the coach players he feel he can play. And spend money. Equal money as our rivals
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:37:42 GMT -5
My wild ass guess is that Malone is more upset that CG wasn’t retained and that Pickett was. He understands the second apron realities and KCP’s age going against us and resulting in his departure,. He probably does not understand how a kid he personally nurtured back to full health and good showings in games he was utilized never got a regular roster spot, but a no-hoper like Pickett, who BOOTH likes because he’s biased toward his Penn State fellow alum, is given that roster spot and kept instead. Sometimes it’s the little things that get under the skin of a coach when it comes to the GM. The CG/Pickett situation might have caused Malone, who sees a lot of himself in CG as a former PG, to raise his voice in his interactions with Booth. Cope. Malone understands basketball and what it takes to win at the highest level. Im a big fan of CG but this is just funny.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:39:01 GMT -5
Trey Alexander vs CG is a non issue for Malone. If the reports are that friction is bad even for NBA standards then we are definitely talking about rotation players.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:42:02 GMT -5
Malone is very clearly against Calvin's two-timeline strategy as a whole. he only warmed up to Braun, and that's because his defense was NBA ready from day 1. Malone wants vets, lots of them. It is quite normal to feel as Malone does, if you look from his point of view, he is most likely fired if Nuggets are not in WCF at minimum. Malone wants the "ready now" roster. Booth wants to be the "smart guy" and he has the room to be because Josh is not going to fire Calvin over Malone due to results. I would not be surprised if Kroenke's decide to sell the Nuggets for the right offer instead of doing something like GSW did to maximize Curry's prime and window. That press conference where all 3 of them were talking at the end of the season told me everything i need to know. Josh thinks about $ as #1,#2 and #3 priorities. Booth is there to make sure those priorities are not compromised and Malone is there to make the best of what he has or he will be the sacrificial lamb in case of similar playoff showing like last year. So, it's normal that Malone is not happy at all. Bingo. Its just about money. And DNVR and NT is celebrating it smh
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:45:08 GMT -5
With Malone and TC gone i legit wonder how Jokic would feel about his Denver Nuggets family
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Post by famicommander on Sept 6, 2024 17:49:02 GMT -5
Trey Alexander vs CG is a non issue for Malone. If the reports are that friction is bad even for NBA standards then we are definitely talking about rotation players. It's cumulative, not either/or. You can bet that Malone would rather have Gillespie over Jones as the last two way. You can bet that Malone would rather have Holiday over Pickett. You can bet that Malone would rather have [insert 3 point shooting veteran wing] over Tyson. You can bet that Malone has no intention of playing Zeke Nnaji big minutes. You can bet that Malone would rather have kept KCP. It's not one thing, it's an obvious trend of Booth trying to force Malone into playing his pet guys by removing any reasonable competition for playing time. Booth is the only guy in the world who would prefer Braun/Strawther to KCP/Braun/Strawther/Holiday as the shooting guard depth.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 6, 2024 17:51:02 GMT -5
What f***ing GM thinks this is how you do your job. Force the coach to play the guys you want him to play?
Then fire the coach lmao. Let the coach do his job and work together to reach your shared goals
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Post by famicommander on Sept 6, 2024 17:54:35 GMT -5
What f***ing GM thinks this is how you do your job. Force the coach to play the guys you want him to play? The kind who is sniffing his own farts because he made four good moves (Barton/Morris for KCP/Ish, drafting CB, drafting Watson, signing BB) and won a championship in his first year. He thinks he can do no wrong but unfortunately about 80% of the moves he's made since then have been horrible.
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Post by inyourmind on Sept 6, 2024 21:14:13 GMT -5
Malone having issues with the FO is a legit problem. Pretty understanable from his POV. Post championship the direction feels arrogant. Just a ton of risk.
I still maintain it goes beyond Booth tho. Nuggets had zero interest in firing TC and didn't care if he left. Promoting from within. All those moves that went down were likely discussed before TC even bailed. Just look at how Josh handled Chris McFarland with the Avs compared to how he's manged the FO position with the Nuggets. It feels like they were confident with their direction with or without TC. Clearly Booth's apart of it but it's far from a Pat Riley situation. Which makes the issues likely bigger because its not just Malone vs Booth but Malone vs people who can get rid of him. Especially if Josh is hands on and heavily involved in basketball decision. IMO I could see it because it's clear he loves basketball and has more do with the Nuggets than the Avs.
This core could obviously deal with a new coaching from a play style/X's and O's stand point but losing the culture he built would be a massive blow. Probably an overreaction but the team as a whole felt cocky last year and the Minny meltdown about the refs was pretty uncharacteristic for them. Hopefully things haven't blown up. Winning cures all. Feels like this upcoming season is going to have a big impact for alot of people/players involved with the Nuggets.
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Post by famicommander on Sept 6, 2024 21:18:06 GMT -5
The Avs comparison ignores the Joe Sakic sized elephant in the room. He's the man in between the Kroenkes and C-Mac and it's extremely likely all decisions that don't have huge financial consequences are made or delegated to someone else (like C-Mac or Bednar) by Joe.
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Post by inyourmind on Sept 6, 2024 22:18:37 GMT -5
The Avs comparison ignores the Joe Sakic sized elephant in the room. He's the man in between the Kroenkes and C-Mac and it's extremely likely all decisions that don't have huge financial consequences are made or delegated to someone else (like C-Mac or Bednar) by Joe. I mean that's the point? Avs have a Sakic. A Pat Riley. Someone who's the top dog. Avs didn't wanna lose C-Mac so they shuffled things around to keep him. I think they even shut down other teams interviewing him. Compare that to TC who the Nuggets were completely fine with looking elsewhere and also fine with him staying. C-Mac easily could have got a GM job elsewhere if KSE treated him like Masai or TC. Booth/TC and even Masai are just part of the puzzle with the Nuggets. Sakic is the puzzle. Nuggets ownership spent a f**k ton on max contracts and in the most crucial time in the history of the franchise let the GM flirt with other teams. Wouldn't pay him. Also had no interest in getting rid of him. You look at TC's history with Washington and the fact that teams likely are scouting other players for months before FA/Trades and the KCP deal was likely happening no matter who are GM was in name. Pure speculation would be that Josh who's a huge basketball guy is heavily involved in basketball decisions. What's not speculation is the Nuggets clearly don't give a f**k about the GM title so it's hard for me to pretend like it matters much here lol also feel like that's worse for Malone because he's disagreeing with something/someone that the $$$$ backs.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Sept 7, 2024 10:02:53 GMT -5
Really good video on Jokic ranked #1 player in nba for this coming season. youtu.be/kGZkVc0nmXw?si=_FSEV3McRkhGqZFoDoes point out he's come back to package bit as his defense regressed and his outside shooting regressed which he dives into I'm depth.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Sept 7, 2024 13:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by GBG on Sept 7, 2024 14:01:20 GMT -5
All the drama from YouTubers and social media influencers about this was for clicks, as I thought. Never had a doubt this would happen.
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 7, 2024 14:03:56 GMT -5
Yawn
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Post by pie on Sept 7, 2024 14:06:20 GMT -5
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Post by GBG on Sept 7, 2024 14:10:46 GMT -5
All 6 of them! What a clown. 🤡
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Sept 7, 2024 14:22:41 GMT -5
Lakers fans are like "he's worth double that against us"
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