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Post by GBG on Jun 17, 2024 15:30:47 GMT -5
Would rather have Zeke than Bona. Watching UCLA the past couple years, I don’t see much with him other than a motor and muscles. He has no range outside of 6 feet. At least we’ve seen Zeke shoot the 3-ball well once upon a time. Not saying we should retain Zeke if there is a trade to be made, but don’t expect Bona to be even as good. He’s not even as good a shot blocker as Zeke, and showed me very little perimeter D or ability to switch.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jun 17, 2024 17:54:25 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can convince themselves that 25+ pick for a center will make any difference or do any good to the Nuggets. This is the list of the centers that we jettisoned in the last few years: 1. Plumlee 2. JMG 3. Bryant 4. Hartenstein 5. JV
Now we have a DAJ and Zeke at center positions that Malone doesn't want to play. How in the name of God someone is expecting Malone to play a rookie in the non Jokic's minutes. This team without Jokic, but with his money in the cap is a 20-25 wins team. This team with a rookie at the 5 and without other 2 starters is a 15 win team max. That will equally project to the result in non Jokic's minutes and as a result Malone will ride the starters even more turning another season to vaste. There was a poster on this board that was actually calling for Tim Connelly to trade or waive Facu during the season as that seemed to be the only option that would prevent our lunatic to play Facu starters minutes lol. Malone will not do anything logical to lose some games in lieu of sparing the starters or developing the young players. He'll do everything to win each and every game and at the end of the season he'll again take a shot at the FO for not having the right players to pair with Jokic
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jun 17, 2024 22:08:52 GMT -5
We have probably a 3 year window here of Jokic being at the top of his game. Looking at other all-time greats their typically their statistical best from age 29-31.
Larry Bird 84-88 age 27-31 Magic Johnson 88-91 age 28-31 Michael Jordan 91-96 age 27-32 Hakeem Olajuwon 93-96 age 30-33 Shaquille O'neal 00-03 Age 27-30 Tim Duncan 02-04 Age 25-27 Kobe Bryant 06-10 Age 27-31 Lebron James 12-17 Age 27-32 Steph Curry 16-19 Age 27-30 Nikola JOkic 21-?? Age 25 - ??
All this is to say, the Organization needs to put the right players around JOkic, but that doesn't mean we have to sacrifice everything for just this next year, but it does need to be with these next 3 years in mind, because after that history says Jokic won't like be at his peak after that.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jun 18, 2024 9:51:58 GMT -5
We have probably a 3 year window here of Jokic being at the top of his game. Looking at other all-time greats their typically their statistical best from age 29-31. Larry Bird 84-88 age 27-31 Magic Johnson 88-91 age 28-31 Michael Jordan 91-96 age 27-32 Hakeem Olajuwon 93-96 age 30-33 Shaquille O'neal 00-03 Age 27-30 Tim Duncan 02-04 Age 25-27 Kobe Bryant 06-10 Age 27-31 Lebron James 12-17 Age 27-32 Steph Curry 16-19 Age 27-30 Nikola JOkic 21-?? Age 25 - ?? All this is to say, the Organization needs to put the right players around JOkic, but that doesn't mean we have to sacrifice everything for just this next year, but it does need to be with these next 3 years in mind, because after that history says Jokic won't like be at his peak after that. Based on your list Jokic has only one more year left in his prime. The only player that went above that is MJ. Jokic also surpassed every other big durability wise and hoping that he'd double on it is pretty optimistic. He also exerted more energy than others during the last 4 years as neither of the superstars above played with less talent on their teams Also I don't see that the FO will do anything to our liking lol. What Booth did last post-season was a crime,and this year will be even more challenging considering the new money rules. I'd be happy to be wrong here but it's not only Booth, it's also Malone who needs to adjust and work with Booth on solution and I see that to be the biggest challenge anyway. We still have the best 5 or if you want the top 3 among starters so we need to come up with the way to preserve them and not have dead bodies when it matters the most. Easier said than done. If they trade mpj this offseason and get good return for him I'll start believing into them again
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jun 18, 2024 11:50:16 GMT -5
Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all made it to their age 30 seasons so at least 2 years. But I agree org has to be on their game this coming year.
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Post by GBG on Jun 18, 2024 12:04:58 GMT -5
Jokic style of play will age better than any of the above superstars listed. As long as Joker wants to stay in shape and compete, he will have an extended prime, health willing.
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Post by JB on Jun 18, 2024 13:05:36 GMT -5
Jokic benefits from not shouldering a heavy load his first few years in the league which should extend his prime
Kareem was a 24PPG scorer when he was 38(!) and he came into the league playing 43MPG. I concur with the sentiment above. health-willing, Jokic will play as long he's motivated to keep his body in elite shape, which of course gets harder as we age.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jun 18, 2024 14:24:19 GMT -5
Jokic will play. The question is how good is he going to be in 2 years. 3mvp years already wasted
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Post by JB on Jun 19, 2024 9:39:06 GMT -5
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Post by duh88 on Jun 20, 2024 15:27:33 GMT -5
Jokic will play. The question is how good is he going to be in 2 years. 3mvp years already wasted We won a banner, you dumbfuck. I get that you’re a hater, but take it easy on the “irrationality” soda you’re drinking.
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Post by JB on Jun 20, 2024 16:12:14 GMT -5
AK reportedly turned down multiple firsts just so he could trade for the #1 Drake fan, who was unplayable in the playoffs.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jun 20, 2024 16:20:46 GMT -5
OKC getting better!
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Jun 20, 2024 17:03:45 GMT -5
I keep expecting to hear "the Thunder sent additional draft picks in the deal"...
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jun 20, 2024 17:16:06 GMT -5
I keep expecting to hear "the Thunder sent additional draft picks in the deal"... I think it was a straight 1-1 trade. OKC still now has ability to get another max player as well through a trade before things start getting expensive.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jun 20, 2024 17:43:01 GMT -5
Jokic will play. The question is how good is he going to be in 2 years. 3mvp years already wasted We won a banner, you dumbfuck. I get that you’re a hater, but take it easy on the “irrationality” soda you’re drinking. You're the dumbest dumbfuck on this board by far and you prove it every day. I am not a hater. We won a banner but that doesn't change a statement that we wasted 3 Jokic's mvp years
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Post by duh88 on Jun 21, 2024 6:39:08 GMT -5
Yves Missi is apparently dropping. I thought he would go in the lottery. Would love to have him - great combo of muscle and speed! - but he's only age 20 - so he's a long way away from giving us real mins.
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 21, 2024 7:34:57 GMT -5
Not really shocking news but Philly likely going after KCP in free agency.
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Post by BBBbbb on Jun 21, 2024 7:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by JB on Jun 21, 2024 8:32:24 GMT -5
KCP is not getting a richer contract than Malik Monk.
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Post by JB on Jun 21, 2024 14:28:23 GMT -5
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