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Post by scooter on Jun 9, 2024 11:28:35 GMT -5
If Gillespie was 20, his G league stats would be super impressive. I don’t take them too seriously for a 24 year old guy because that league sucks. Jay Huff’s G League stats make him look like the 2nd coming of Kareem but with excellent 3 point shooting — TS% of 71% while averaging 19 points/8 rebounds/2 assists/3.6 blocks in 29 minutes. He’s had a TS% greater than 70% three G League seasons in a row, and yet he’s still playing in the G League.
It’s obvious the G League just isn’t a very high level of basketball.
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Post by GBG on Jun 9, 2024 11:56:26 GMT -5
If Gillespie was 20, his G league stats would be super impressive. I don’t take them too seriously for a 24 year old guy because that league sucks. Jay Huff’s G League stats make him look like the 2nd coming of Kareem but with excellent 3 point shooting — TS% of 71% while averaging 19 points/8 rebounds/2 assists/3.6 blocks in 29 minutes. He’s had a TS% greater than 70% three G League seasons in a row, and yet he’s still playing in the G League. It’s obvious the G League just isn’t a very high level of basketball. Good grief. CG looked impressive in Summer League too. But LVSL sucks, so let’s not pay any attention to that either. How about in the NBA? He played only 225 minutes this season, but shot 46.4% overall, 39.5% on 3’s, 54.8% on 2’s. Yes, small sample size, and SSS’s suck in evaluating players. What about his Wikipedia page? Here it is… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collin_GillespieNotice that CG was a 2x Big East Player of the Year. He wanted to redshirt his freshman year, but “coach Jay Wright decided against doing it because Gillespie "was playing above his years."”. Later that year, “he had four points and five rebounds in the 79–62 NCAA championship game win over Michigan. To have a nice game off the bench in such a huge game was impressive, given he was just a freshman. That team had a roster that included Jalen Brunson, Donte Divincenzo, Mikal Bridges, Eric Pachall, among other notables. Yet, CG helped them win a title. I’m sure rock remembers. “He averaged 4.3 points per game in 14.4 minutes per game.”. You can read the rest of his background there. Ahh, but Wikipedia is user-generated content, so it sucks. Actually, none of us know what CG will become, so our takes all suck. My post sucks. Probably should be deleted.
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Post by jimijam28 on Jun 9, 2024 12:07:06 GMT -5
Yawn CG
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Post by JB on Jun 9, 2024 12:23:24 GMT -5
CG is a fine third string PG in the same manner Reggie Jackson is a fine third string PG.
the Nuggets require a second string PG. and his name is not Jalen Pickett if Calvin was wondering.
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Post by GBG on Jun 9, 2024 12:49:53 GMT -5
CG is a fine third string PG in the same manner Reggie Jackson is a fine third string PG. the Nuggets require a second string PG. and his name is not Jalen Pickett if Calvin was wondering. You’re just speculating. We know even less about Pickett’s future than we do CG’s. I’m gonna speculate Pickett is dealt in one of our summer trades, possibly packaged with Zeke if we stay out of second apron.
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Post by JB on Jun 9, 2024 13:09:58 GMT -5
“I think Malone will have to play them. Hunter and Julian, these guys can manufacture points on their own. And I like the balance between Jamal and Jalen, who has been basically Joker Lite wherever he’s been. What happens when Jalen goes out there with Jokic and the ball’s moving around with both of those guys? It’s going to be like San Antonio with Boris Diaw.”
that doesn't sound like trade filler to me.
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Post by GBG on Jun 9, 2024 17:25:33 GMT -5
“I think Malone will have to play them. Hunter and Julian, these guys can manufacture points on their own. And I like the balance between Jamal and Jalen, who has been basically Joker Lite wherever he’s been. What happens when Jalen goes out there with Jokic and the ball’s moving around with both of those guys? It’s going to be like San Antonio with Boris Diaw.” that doesn't sound like trade filler to me. Talking up your assets before offering them in trade is a common practice for GMs.
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 10, 2024 8:02:06 GMT -5
Maybe I've just completely missed who the Nuggets have brought in for pre-draft workouts but it seems strangely quiet when it should be busy two weeks before the draft. Really gives off a vibe the pick is being traded.
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Post by scooter on Jun 10, 2024 10:16:36 GMT -5
Maybe I've just completely missed who the Nuggets have brought in for pre-draft workouts but it seems strangely quiet when it should be busy two weeks before the draft. Really gives off a vibe the pick is being traded. I hope that’s the case unless they can get something in trade for at least 2 of Pickett, Strawther, Tyson. They need to package one or more assets with Nnaji to get something in return, and we need drastically fewer “not nearly ready to contribute to a playoff team” guys.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jun 10, 2024 11:01:32 GMT -5
I tend to agree with going the veteran route when your in win-now mode, but you never know. I like kj Simpson. I think he's the type of guy that would be ready to contribute by mid-season.
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Post by JB on Jun 10, 2024 11:07:37 GMT -5
I'm thinking Kel'el Ware. Lively is showing that how translatable that skillset is even as a rookie if put in the right position (shout out to scout duh). Nuggets should make a moderate attempt to trade up for him if he's going in the 20-27 range.
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Post by JB on Jun 10, 2024 13:05:20 GMT -5
ouch
I still remember Scottie Brooks turning down the Nuggets job in 2015, though rejecting a Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried led teams in the rockies is a much different proposition than saying no thanks to Bron and AD in Hollywood.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jun 10, 2024 15:17:59 GMT -5
Smart move. He would've been scapegoated and ran out of town faster than UConn breaking a fullcourt press. He's living the dream right where he is.
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Post by duh88 on Jun 11, 2024 3:12:37 GMT -5
I'm thinking Kel'el Ware. Lively is showing that how translatable that skillset is even as a rookie if put in the right position (shout out to scout duh). Nuggets should make a moderate attempt to trade up for him if he's going in the 20-27 range. Thank you for the props brother!! The problem is - Lively is going to make Ware popular. Lively has made “big men great again.” Ware is too skilled not to go in the top 20. I think ware goes in the top 17 - sadly, out of our range - but if I’m wrong, I’d love to snag him.
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Post by duh88 on Jun 11, 2024 3:13:52 GMT -5
Smart move. He would've been scapegoated and ran out of town faster than UConn breaking a fullcourt press. He's living the dream right where he is. I half agree half disagree. Agreed that he’ll be jettisoned within 3 seasons. But it’s $70 million. Do his agents think he’ll actually get a better offer than that anytime soon?
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Post by duh88 on Jun 16, 2024 4:12:05 GMT -5
I didn't look at any rookies between picks 1 to 25, because what's the point?
Amongst those mocking pick 25 and above - here are my favs (in order of most liked), in regard to the idea that we need a backup-center and a scoring off the bench - Ighodaro and Sheed are by far my two favs:
Oso Ighodaro - C - very quick, big body - how is he not getting more attention? - could be a wrecking ball off the bench - only age 21, but a senior - I think he'll be ready for bigger mins
Jamal Shead - PG - lockdown defender, fast as f**k, solid PG skills - how is mocking so late? He has first-round talent - age 21, but senior, so I think he'll be ready for larger mins
Tyler Smith - PF - great speed and a big body with muscle - won’t get pushed around easy - age 19 (likely too young for us), so he's a development pick, but with the right coaching, he'll be a damn good player down the road because of his speed, size and skill
Baylor Scheierman - great stroke - super confident - not tall, but a big body who won’t get pushed around - he does not have NBA speed, but I do think he could scorch the second-unit defenses of other teams - 23 y/o older player who is ready for large minutes
Jonathan Mobgo - SF - Swiss Army knife - big body that can guard all 5 positions, plays big - cannot shoot - but good second unit guy for defense and playmaking - if he could shoot, he would be a lottery pick (maybe he develops that?) - seems to have good IQ and 22 y/o - should be ready to play large mins
Adem Bona - C - huge body with great speed - can probably guard all five positions and bang around down low - 21 y/o so might need time to develop, but love his combo of size and speed
Cam Christie - beautiful stroke, quick release, big body - only 18 y/o - this is a development pick, but listing him here because the kid has talent
Terrence Shannon Jr. - putting this guy up here because of mental toughness - falsely accused of rape and played the entire year with that stress - led his team to the playoffs anyways - had his day in court this week (finally) and found not guilty - decent shooter, but super quick and can probably guard multiple positions - he’s mentally tough and a damn good leader with grit - good fit for a championship team that needs guys who are ready to sacrifice - 23 y/o ready to play large mins
Melvin Ajinça - love his confidence - beautiful stroke - good enough on speed - only 19 y/o - he has the talent to become a very good player
Boogie Ellis - solid speed, good shooting - rangy on defense - 23 y/o so ready for bigger mins
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Post by JB on Jun 16, 2024 16:39:41 GMT -5
looks like Andre Drummond wants off AK's wild ride in Chicago and is looking for a new home.
he signed a 2/6 with the Bulls. if he signs a similar deal with the OKC Thunder or smaller/similar market team, I would be very disappointed. we all love DAJ, but it's time to prioritize vets who can still play over vets who bring the vibes.
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Post by duh88 on Jun 17, 2024 6:13:24 GMT -5
looks like Andre Drummond wants off AK's wild ride in Chicago and is looking for a new home. he signed a 2/6 with the Bulls. if he signs a similar deal with the OKC Thunder or smaller/similar market team, I would be very disappointed. we all love DAJ, but it's time to prioritize vets who can still play over vets who bring the vibes. Would love to have Drummond or WCS - both wrecking-balls that can give you 10 to 15 mins per night. I think part of the issue with the bench is Malone has gotten hung up on continuing the continuity of "Jokic-Ball" with the idea that the "big-man" has to be a facilitator - even with Jokic out. We need to throw that out the f***ing window. What we need from our bench is a wrecking-ball center who can rebound and bruise people up, and a PG/SG who can drive and take fouls. Malone keeps overthinking the bench, to our detriment.
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Post by duh88 on Jun 17, 2024 6:18:41 GMT -5
Also going to add - I don't get the hoopla around Daron Holmes. I wish the best for Holmes, but in comparison to Oso and Bona - I would much rather have one of Oso or Bona as a Center - both are bigger and quicker than Holmes. I don't see any NBA speed with Holmes, which means he won't last long in the league.
Kel'El Ware - I don't think he's going to drop to 28, but if he does, you don't hesitate and take him.
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Post by scooter on Jun 17, 2024 11:49:50 GMT -5
Also going to add - I don't get the hoopla around Daron Holmes. I wish the best for Holmes, but in comparison to Oso and Bona - I would much rather have one of Oso or Bona as a Center - both are bigger and quicker than Holmes. I don't see any NBA speed with Holmes, which means he won't last long in the league. Kel'El Ware - I don't think he's going to drop to 28, but if he does, you don't hesitate and take him. I don’t know anything much about any of these guys, but I know how to use Google. According to the official pre-draft measurements, Ighodaro has only an 8’8.5” standing reach, which is 3.5” shorter than that of MPJ and 3” shorter than Watson. That’s been part of the problem with Nnaji — poor standing reach — and puts Ighodaro in the category of extremely undersized for C. Brandon Clarke made it work for awhile as an undersized, jumping jack bench “big”, but IMO the odds are heavily stacked against it working. So, no thanks. Bona is an athletic bruiser but he’s a little short at about 6’9.5” and can’t shoot even though it seems like he played more PF than C at UCLA. His turnover numbers are also kinda high for a guy playing a small offensive role, suggesting his hands are not great. It’s possible he turns into Biyombo (definitely bears a resemblance physically) but more likely he doesn’t make it in the NBA. Holmes can shoot some and looks athletic enough to me. From video he looks very physically similar to Precious Achiuwa. A little on the small side for an NBA C but workable, with a 9.0” standing reach. I can see why people have him mocked ahead of the other guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s off the board by 28.
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