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Post by wizardofcozz on Jun 20, 2024 13:19:34 GMT -5
Boston with 5 guys in the top 42 of the top 100 rankings. I still stand by the fact that 3-6 BOS is as better then everyone in the league! nbarankings.theringer.com/
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jun 20, 2024 17:37:02 GMT -5
Some other team will give him more PT based on what? The Nuggets tried their hardest the last two years to hand him 2C minutes and he fumbled them repeatedly. You have a ridiculously unreasonable amount of faith in this guy. He isn’t a particularly good backup 4, but definitely not a backup 5. As he enters his ages 24-27 seasons, though, on a bad team he can get playing time and average perhaps 20 mpg as a switchable defensive 4 with a fixed shot, as a best case scenario. His defense is good. He blocked 2.4 shots per-36 last season. Has a career WS/48 over .1. How you and scooter can completely write off a guy who played 576 minutes last season is beyond me. You two are basically saying the guy who wouldn’t play and forced a trade of Hartenstein was correct to judge that Zeke can’t play either. I don’t believe Malone, and you shouldn’t either. The problem for me when it comes to evaluating Zeke's play is that our bench as a unit has been really bad for several years now. They were getting destroyed every night even with Green and Brown. Even good individual players can look bad when you're giving up 12-0 runs. I did see a glimmer of hope this year. Not sure why we only got to see a little glimpse of it, but I LOVED the unit with Zeke/Watson/CB/Holiday in it. It was a tiny sample size, but it was deflection city. They blocked shots, got offensive rebounds, steals and transition buckets. If we could find a guy to plug into that unit that could get his own buckets, I think we'd have a viable, high energy unit that Zeke could thrive in. They have to shop him around, but if you can't find a taker, Malone's just gonna have to find places to utilize his defensive versatility. The good news is that his rebound, steal, assist and block percentages were all career highs this year. So the game probably is slowing down for him.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Jun 20, 2024 18:03:01 GMT -5
honestly I think Zeke can play the backup 5 as long as he's not the only big on the court. Jokic can outrebound 2 opposing bigs by himself, but Zeke needs to be alongside at least someone of Vlatko's size/strength. Zeke/PWat is too small and too easy to outmuscle.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 26, 2024 8:11:44 GMT -5
I am on the side that think Zeke had pussy hands and everything else is just empty talk. You need hands to play meaningful minutes in the NBA
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Post by BBBbbb on Jun 26, 2024 11:32:52 GMT -5
I am on the side that think Zeke had pussy hands and everything else is just empty talk. You need hands to play meaningful minutes in the NBA His positioning sucks as well, and I think it more mental than lack of size, considering how badly he's positioned for a rebound at times.
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Post by duh88 on Jun 27, 2024 1:36:41 GMT -5
I am on the side that think Zeke had pussy hands and everything else is just empty talk. You need hands to play meaningful minutes in the NBA His positioning sucks as well, and I think it more mental than lack of size, considering how badly he's positioned for a rebound at times. Positioning? Or is he just f***ing undersized, in terms of height and wingspan?
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Post by BBBbbb on Jun 27, 2024 1:39:41 GMT -5
His positioning sucks as well, and I think it more mental than lack of size, considering how badly he's positioned for a rebound at times. Positioning? Or is he just f***ing undersized, in terms of height and wingspan? The thing is you see some guards grabbing rebounds and/or boxing out bigger guys. They just have a knack for it. Size is an issue for Zeke, but at times he’s so out of position that it’s hard to blame only the size.
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Post by famicommander on Jun 27, 2024 2:03:14 GMT -5
Positioning? Or is he just f***ing undersized, in terms of height and wingspan? The thing is you see some guards grabbing rebounds and/or boxing out bigger guys. They just have a knack for it. Size is an issue for Zeke, but at times he’s so out of position that it’s hard to blame only the size. He doesn't read the ball well. He seems to have no clue where the ball is going to land when it's in the air or where it's going to deflect off the rim/backboard. He seems very surprised every time the ball comes near him whether it's off a pass, a rebound, a tip, whatever.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jun 27, 2024 3:56:08 GMT -5
A lot of that is just the game still moving too fast for Zeke. Gotta remember he hasn't really played that much. Just as a comparison, Daron Holmes played as many minutes in college as Zeke has in both college and pro's combined. And probably about a 3rd of Zeke's total playing time has been garbage time minutes, so not exactly great for decision making at game speed.
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