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Post by AbdulJabber on May 25, 2023 0:12:41 GMT -5
Thanks duh and rock!!! Family is safe, that’s the important thing. Came through it pretty well considering how strong the storm was. I will be good, just as long as we get electricity back in time for the finals 🤣🤣 Take care everyone!! That storm looked insane compared to guam on the map. Scary stuff. |
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Post by chelu_DN on May 25, 2023 0:29:00 GMT -5
Thanks duh and rock!!! Family is safe, that’s the important thing. Came through it pretty well considering how strong the storm was. I will be good, just as long as we get electricity back in time for the finals 🤣🤣 Take care everyone!! That storm looked insane compared to guam on the map. Scary stuff. Yup, definitely scary. You feel so helpless, not much you can do but ride it out. |
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Post by famicommander on May 25, 2023 0:52:23 GMT -5
Hang in there, man.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on May 25, 2023 0:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by okie25 on May 25, 2023 8:38:20 GMT -5
I understand rotation criticisms - But we don’t sweep LA without Jeff green. We beat them, but not in 4. Uncle Jeff took so many critical charges and made some critical 3-pointers. On the whole, he also played excellent defense for who he is (stayed in front of his man). I don’t like the 7 man rotation - but suggestions that green doesn’t play - I’m not in agreement with that. The charge and coast to coast dunk were beautiful novelties...from a player that was repeatedly beaten by his man in an embarrassing fashion, who nearly single-handedly gave up the lead on defense, whether on late rotations or getting blown by to the basket. If the issue is post defense with a man who can still defend the perimeter in small doses---it's Nnaji-time. Not a perfect answer, but better than Braun or Green for this. |
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Post by funky on May 25, 2023 8:54:10 GMT -5
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Post by scooter on May 25, 2023 10:38:46 GMT -5
Justin Kubatko: Players who who have averaged at least 30 PPG with 50/40/90 shooting splits in a conference finals: ✅ Jamal Murray (2023) That’s it. That’s the list. Murray has been incredible in the playoffs. I’m starting to get annoyed that in every media interview he’s getting asked about Jokic. Jokic is an all-timer, but Murray deserves plenty of recognition and praise of his own. He’s playing superstar level ball in the postseason. |
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Post by JB on May 25, 2023 10:53:38 GMT -5
he's not playing like a superstar.
he is a superstar. you make your name in the playoffs, not in November against the Hornets.
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Post by scooter on May 25, 2023 11:04:11 GMT -5
I understand rotation criticisms - But we don’t sweep LA without Jeff green. We beat them, but not in 4. Uncle Jeff took so many critical charges and made some critical 3-pointers. On the whole, he also played excellent defense for who he is (stayed in front of his man). I don’t like the 7 man rotation - but suggestions that green doesn’t play - I’m not in agreement with that. The charge and coast to coast dunk were beautiful novelties...from a player that was repeatedly beaten by his man in an embarrassing fashion, who nearly single-handedly gave up the lead on defense, whether on late rotations or getting blown by to the basket. If the issue is post defense with a man who can still defend the perimeter in small doses---it's Nnaji-time. Not a perfect answer, but better than Braun or Green for this. Since we have seen Nnaji play 0 minutes of non-garbage time playoff basketball — ever — I think we should defer to Malone’s judgment. I’ve pointed out that not turning the ball over has been a huge factor in the Nuggets’ postseason success. When folks here start advocating for bench players, they always focus 100% on defense as if its NFL football where the players are specialists. They have to play on both ends, we’ve seen that Braun’s offensive game has gotten shakier as the playoffs have worn on, and we have no information that Nnaji is a decent offensive player — who won’t turn the ball over — at this level. Nnaji hasn’t done a thing in the NBA that convinces me he’s ready for this. Now — if an injury means he gets an opportunity, I hope he plays great. |
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Post by scooter on May 25, 2023 11:10:05 GMT -5
he's not playing like a superstar. he is a superstar. you make your name in the playoffs, not in November against the Hornets. That has always annoyed me about all-star selection. The voting starts in December. It just seems dumb that selection is at least theoretically based solely on putting up big stats in the early part of the season. The Kings shouldn’t have more all-stars than the Nuggets. Sabonis is a 3X all-star and I really do not see him as a superstar. |
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Post by JB on May 25, 2023 11:17:16 GMT -5
Murray names his top 5 players: thespun.com/nba/nuggets-star-jamal-murray-names-his-top-5-nba-players-everMJ/Curry/Kobe/Shaq/Bron Shaq is the biggest surprise here. I'm almost shocked he didn't mention Vince Carter considering Vinsanity single-handedly broke the hockey monopoly in Toronto and the greater Toronto area and turned them into bball fanatics, but Murray clearly respects winners over everything else. |
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Post by rock on May 25, 2023 11:22:21 GMT -5
he's not playing like a superstar. he is a superstar. you make your name in the playoffs, not in November against the Hornets. That has always annoyed me about all-star selection. The voting starts in December. It just seems dumb that selection is at least theoretically based solely on putting up big stats in the early part of the season. The Kings shouldn’t have more all-stars than the Nuggets. Sabonis is a 3X all-star and I really do not see him as a superstar. I love all star voting. When players who have been hurt all year or the lakers 7th man get into the top ten |
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Post by okie25 on May 25, 2023 12:16:31 GMT -5
The charge and coast to coast dunk were beautiful novelties...from a player that was repeatedly beaten by his man in an embarrassing fashion, who nearly single-handedly gave up the lead on defense, whether on late rotations or getting blown by to the basket. If the issue is post defense with a man who can still defend the perimeter in small doses---it's Nnaji-time. Not a perfect answer, but better than Braun or Green for this. Since we have seen Nnaji play 0 minutes of non-garbage time playoff basketball — ever — I think we should defer to Malone’s judgment. I’ve pointed out that not turning the ball over has been a huge factor in the Nuggets’ postseason success. When folks here start advocating for bench players, they always focus 100% on defense as if its NFL football where the players are specialists. They have to play on both ends, we’ve seen that Braun’s offensive game has gotten shakier as the playoffs have worn on, and we have no information that Nnaji is a decent offensive player — who won’t turn the ball over — at this level. Nnaji hasn’t done a thing in the NBA that convinces me he’s ready for this. Now — if an injury means he gets an opportunity, I hope he plays great. There's enough film to show he can hit the three and is explosive enough on offense. In games where he was allowed to play more than twenty minutes, he rarely had more than one turnover. And his defense can't (and isn't, it's significantly better even if he is not yet an elite post-defender) be worse than Green's defense. Green has repeatedly let other teams back into the game and not just in the playoffs. Malone is not infallible. He has favorites like Barton and for the longest time Facu who were blackholes who could not or would not play defense (although Facu could get an occasional steal), just like Karl loved Anthony Carter. It's hard not to have player biases when you get to know them, but these biases are also part of the reason the Nuggets traded draft or other capital to get rid of coach's favorites. The fact that the Nuggets traded for Bryant is an admission by the front office that the post play without Jokic is deficient, even if Malone clutches to Green. I'm not anti-Malone, he has them playing very well, but he is not infallible. His rotations have consistently been criticized for good reason...and this is a forum. It'd be boring if there were no discussion and just a lot of "Go Nuggets!". |
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Post by famicommander on May 25, 2023 12:30:45 GMT -5
Murray names his top 5 players: thespun.com/nba/nuggets-star-jamal-murray-names-his-top-5-nba-players-everMJ/Curry/Kobe/Shaq/Bron Shaq is the biggest surprise here. I'm almost shocked he didn't mention Vince Carter considering Vinsanity single-handedly broke the hockey monopoly in Toronto and the greater Toronto area and turned them into bball fanatics, but Murray clearly respects winners over everything else. Kobe over Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Bill, West, Dr J, Havlicek? I'll give Jamal a pass because he's like 12 years old, but damn. |
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Post by famicommander on May 25, 2023 12:32:31 GMT -5
Since we have seen Nnaji play 0 minutes of non-garbage time playoff basketball — ever — I think we should defer to Malone’s judgment. I’ve pointed out that not turning the ball over has been a huge factor in the Nuggets’ postseason success. When folks here start advocating for bench players, they always focus 100% on defense as if its NFL football where the players are specialists. They have to play on both ends, we’ve seen that Braun’s offensive game has gotten shakier as the playoffs have worn on, and we have no information that Nnaji is a decent offensive player — who won’t turn the ball over — at this level. Nnaji hasn’t done a thing in the NBA that convinces me he’s ready for this. Now — if an injury means he gets an opportunity, I hope he plays great. and is explosive enough on offense. In games where he was allowed to play more than twenty minutes, he rarely had more than one turnover. And his defense can't (and isn't, it's significantly better even if he is not yet an elite post-defender) be worse than Green's defense. Green has repeatedly let other teams back into the game and not just in the playoffs. Malone is not infallible. He has favorites like Barton and for the longest time Facu who were blackholes who could not or would not play defense (although Facu could get an occasional steal), just like Karl loved Anthony Carter. It's hard not to have player biases when you get to know them, but these biases are also part of the reason the Nuggets traded draft or other capital to get rid of coach's favorites. The fact that the Nuggets traded for Bryant is an admission by the front office that the post play without Jokic is deficient, even if Malone clutches to Green. I'm not anti-Malone, he has them playing very well, but he is not infallible. His rotations have consistently been criticized for good reason...and this is a forum. It'd be boring if there were no discussion and just a lot of "Go Nuggets!". Zeke shot the 3s even worse than Uncle Jeff this year. |
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Post by rock on May 25, 2023 12:52:12 GMT -5
Murray names his top 5 players: thespun.com/nba/nuggets-star-jamal-murray-names-his-top-5-nba-players-everMJ/Curry/Kobe/Shaq/Bron Shaq is the biggest surprise here. I'm almost shocked he didn't mention Vince Carter considering Vinsanity single-handedly broke the hockey monopoly in Toronto and the greater Toronto area and turned them into bball fanatics, but Murray clearly respects winners over everything else. Kobe over Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Bill, West, Dr J, Havlicek? I'll give Jamal a pass because he's like 12 years old, but damn. its near impossible to compare players from such different eras, we need a top 5 list from like 1950-1969, 1970-1989, etc...the game is so different. |
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Post by famicommander on May 25, 2023 12:55:11 GMT -5
Kobe over Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Bill, West, Dr J, Havlicek? I'll give Jamal a pass because he's like 12 years old, but damn. its near impossible to compare players from such different eras, we need a top 5 list from like 1950-1969, 1970-1989, etc...the game is so different. It's really, really easy to say Kobe doesn't belong with any of the names on that list. Because he doesn't. Not even close. His shooting splits were trash and he never passed the damn ball. He was a volume scorer. |
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Post by JB on May 25, 2023 13:19:35 GMT -5
as a Nugget fan, you should probably be grateful Jamal grew up idolizing Kobe. it's not Duncan's post up fundamentals and rebounding skills that inspired Murray to take over games.
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Post by famicommander on May 25, 2023 13:22:18 GMT -5
as a Nugget fan, you should probably be grateful Jamal grew up idolizing Kobe. it's not Duncan's box out fundamentals that inspired Murray to take over games. He also listed MJ and Curry, both of whom I'd much rather see him pattern himself after. |
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Post by okie25 on May 25, 2023 13:24:05 GMT -5
There's enough film to show he can hit the three and is explosive enough on offense. In games where he was allowed to play more than twenty minutes, he rarely had more than one turnover. And his defense can't (and isn't, it's significantly better even if he is not yet an elite post-defender) be worse than Green's defense. Green has repeatedly let other teams back into the game and not just in the playoffs. Malone is not infallible. He has favorites like Barton and for the longest time Facu who were blackholes who could not or would not play defense (although Facu could get an occasional steal), just like Karl loved Anthony Carter. It's hard not to have player biases when you get to know them, but these biases are also part of the reason the Nuggets traded draft or other capital to get rid of coach's favorites. The fact that the Nuggets traded for Bryant is an admission by the front office that the post play without Jokic is deficient, even if Malone clutches to Green. I'm not anti-Malone, he has them playing very well, but he is not infallible. His rotations have consistently been criticized for good reason...and this is a forum. It'd be boring if there were no discussion and just a lot of "Go Nuggets!". Zeke shot the 3s even worse than Uncle Jeff this year. Green has hit the three well when wide open this year and still has explosive moments on offense. My criticism is the complete lack of defense if he does not get a block. Nnaji is good enough at the open three to not be a detriment was more of the point. I'm also open to other players eating Green's minutes, whether that be Watson for defense (a risk, but it worked with the Lue on Iverson type of matchup) or Bryant due to size (although not perfect and far from an elite defender, he did average 12 and 7 in LA). |
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