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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 24, 2023 23:13:30 GMT -5
passtheball is a good poster and I generally enjoy his takes but he clowns himself when it comes to his anti-Murray bias. the other guy is a different story, I rarely see him post anything that isn't Murray hate. You were the same way defending Barton until he got traded you forgot that. Now you're clowning yourself defending Murray when he walks like a corpse on the floor. He's plus/minus in game one is a true indication of his contribution same as Jokic's -14 last night. Jokic was by far the worst player on the floor last night right lol.
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Post by JB on Apr 24, 2023 23:19:22 GMT -5
much like your Murray fixation, I pushed back against the "Barton is the reason for everything wrong with the Nuggets" narrative because it was not serious.
we don't need to get into why Mr. Jokic was -14. the reason is clear and obvious, but let's focus on positive vibes.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 24, 2023 23:20:53 GMT -5
Also I am aware that we can't win it all without Murray being elite. All I am saying, in round 2 we loose all 3 games out of 4 if Murray has the same performance like in games 1, 3 and 4. Only MPJ can save us in situations when Murray is having a down game but our clown coach doesn't trust him and he's not getting enough looks
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Post by GBG on Apr 24, 2023 23:30:18 GMT -5
Tomorrow nights game is our’s. It would have been anyway, but Slo Mo being out is too much for them to overcome.
Our scrubs will be playing garbage time minutes with three minutes left, if Malone allows it.
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Post by rock on Apr 24, 2023 23:52:51 GMT -5
Tomorrow nights game is our’s. It would have been anyway, but Slo Mo being out is too much for them to overcome. Our scrubs will be playing garbage time minutes with three minutes left, if Malone allows it. After we lost to houston, spurs, utah, bulls and nets recently (many at home and many as 8-12 point favorites) I don’t trust the nuggets in any games.
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Post by Coach Sticky on Apr 25, 2023 3:00:22 GMT -5
GAME DAY FUCKERSSS
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 3:55:13 GMT -5
Cant be consistat while out of shape Very good point and also extremely concerning because it's been an issue for him his entire career (outside of the bubble where there was a major lay-off) I'll give him a pass for this year because rehabbing the ACL and taking 1.5 years off from NBA basketball makes it impossible to get in elite shape, but Jamal really needs to mature in the offseason when it comes to his body. MPJ, AG and Jokic don't get as tired and all 3 are much bigger guys. The good news is...historically Jamal performs the best against Phoenix. Lets get to the Phoenix series and not f**k around. I'm very curious if they use Craig or Booker on him. No pass. Trade his ass. Before he gets injured again. Unless we Champions
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 3:56:00 GMT -5
There is not a single PG in the NBA that is worth trading Jamal for outside of SGA and i don't see OKC willing to do that. Jrue, Lowry, CP3 are old. Steph and Dame are on the other side of their prime and not a 2-way guards. Luka and Kyrie both have mental issues... If Jamal is the main reason we lose vs Suns, sadly we will need to run it back because trading Jamal at that point will not bring us the better player and his value would be all time low. This team should have traded Harris and Barton (while they still had value in 2019) with picks for Jrue and play Jamal as 2 guard. We would be talking about our 2nd, 3rd, 4th championship today. Sadly, it takes people with vision and balls to pull unpopular moves for the greater good. If Minnesota doesn't get rid of both KAT and Gobert asap and go all out on building the perfect team around ANT, they would do the same mistake Tim Connelly did with the Nuggets. You cant just sit tight and pray that everything will work out with kids you drafted and let the generational talent prime go to waste because Denver is not Los Angeles and players like LeBron or Kawhi are not coming here as free agents. who says we have to trade Jamal for a PG? Why not Luka?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 3:58:03 GMT -5
There is not a single PG in the NBA that is worth trading Jamal for outside of SGA and i don't see OKC willing to do that. Jrue, Lowry, CP3 are old. Steph and Dame are on the other side of their prime and not a 2-way guards. Luka and Kyrie both have mental issues... If Jamal is the main reason we lose vs Suns, sadly we will need to run it back because trading Jamal at that point will not bring us the better player and his value would be all time low. This team should have traded Harris and Barton (while they still had value in 2019) with picks for Jrue and play Jamal as 2 guard. We would be talking about our 2nd, 3rd, 4th championship today. Sadly, it takes people with vision and balls to pull unpopular moves for the greater good. If Minnesota doesn't get rid of both KAT and Gobert asap and go all out on building the perfect team around ANT, they would do the same mistake Tim Connelly did with the Nuggets. You cant just sit tight and pray that everything will work out with kids you drafted and let the generational talent prime go to waste because Denver is not Los Angeles and players like LeBron or Kawhi are not coming here as free agents. who says we have to trade Jamal for a PG? Why not Luka? And bro they tried to trade for Jrue he was our #1 target. Cant force teams to take our offers.
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Post by freakns on Apr 25, 2023 6:03:45 GMT -5
The Suns don't have NAW but they do have Craig who has similar measurables. Okogie is super physical and has a 7 foot wingspan too. The Nuggets just need to play Murray off the ball more in initial actions. He's being asked to do way too much right now. Craig is not good point of attack defender. Okogie is, so I assume Okogie will get advantage in our series even though Craig was fantastic against Clippers. also, Nuggets offense didn't have problems in first three games, even though NAW was guarding Jamal same way. difference is, first three games, rest of team didn't stand in one place and look at ceiling and thinking about meaning of life
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Post by freakns on Apr 25, 2023 6:05:44 GMT -5
Tomorrow nights game is our’s. It would have been anyway, but Slo Mo being out is too much for them to overcome. Our scrubs will be playing garbage time minutes with three minutes left, if Malone allows it. After we lost to houston, spurs, utah, bulls and nets recently (many at home and many as 8-12 point favorites) I don’t trust the nuggets in any games. lol, after those losses? this indicates you trusted Nuggets before these games and we all know you haven't.
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Post by Ring on Apr 25, 2023 6:14:41 GMT -5
The Suns don't have NAW but they do have Craig who has similar measurables. Okogie is super physical and has a 7 foot wingspan too. The Nuggets just need to play Murray off the ball more in initial actions. He's being asked to do way too much right now. Craig is not good point of attack defender. Okogie is, so I assume Okogie will get advantage in our series even though Craig was fantastic against Clippers. also, Nuggets offense didn't have problems in first three games, even though NAW was guarding Jamal same way. difference is, first three games, rest of team didn't stand in one place and look at ceiling and thinking about meaning of life The offense wasn't very good in Game 1. The defense was just out of this world.
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Post by duh88 on Apr 25, 2023 6:38:00 GMT -5
Minny, in the last game, basically doubled Jamal the entire second half - MPJ was bricking this entire time.
Our guys gotta make shots. Minny went all-in on carving up Jamal. Murray isn't going to score 40 when he's doubled the entire half. Other guys gotta step up.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 7:56:06 GMT -5
The Suns don't have NAW but they do have Craig who has similar measurables. Okogie is super physical and has a 7 foot wingspan too. The Nuggets just need to play Murray off the ball more in initial actions. He's being asked to do way too much right now. Craig is not good point of attack defender. Okogie is, so I assume Okogie will get advantage in our series even though Craig was fantastic against Clippers. also, Nuggets offense didn't have problems in first three games, even though NAW was guarding Jamal same way. difference is, first three games, rest of team didn't stand in one place and look at ceiling and thinking about meaning of life craig best defensive matchups was against taller PG’s. I remember thinking and saying this when he was here at least
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 8:10:59 GMT -5
Minny, in the last game, basically doubled Jamal the entire second half - MPJ was bricking this entire time. Our guys gotta make shots. Minny went all-in on carving up Jamal. Murray isn't going to score 40 when he's doubled the entire half. Other guys gotta step up. Maybe our stupid coach, Malone can give some minutes to Reggie Jackson, Watson, Zeke and Bryant …so our starters won’t have to play 40 minutes every playoff game
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Post by Ring on Apr 25, 2023 8:37:41 GMT -5
Murray wasn't doubled at all. He was being guarded tightly by NAW. Face guarded when he was off the ball. One of the biggest issues of Murrays entire career is he has no first step. It's why he can't break down defenders and is the main reason why he's inconsistent. Murray doesn't get free points at the rim or the line which is why he isn't an All Star and why he isn't consistent. When he's hitting tough shots he's an elite player. When he's not, he's going to have poor shooting numbers because he never can inflate his % with easy baskets.
NAW has been physical and has good length. He's pressuring Murray full court and tiring him out because Murray is out of shape. You have to start initiating actions with other ball handlers. AG can do it. Bruce can do it. MPJ can run some DHOs. The entirety of the Nuggets offense doesn't have to start with the 2 man game. Switch up some looks.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 9:07:11 GMT -5
Minny, in the last game, basically doubled Jamal the entire second half - MPJ was bricking this entire time. Our guys gotta make shots. Minny went all-in on carving up Jamal. Murray isn't going to score 40 when he's doubled the entire half. Other guys gotta step up. Maybe our stupid coach, Malone can give some minutes to Reggie Jackson, Watson, Zeke and Bryant …so our starters won’t have to play 40 minutes every playoff game The starters played barely 30 minutes game 1 when they executed better.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 9:09:30 GMT -5
Wouldnt hate having Bones right now either. But i dont know what actually happened behind the scenes.
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Post by Ring on Apr 25, 2023 9:16:27 GMT -5
Wouldnt hate having Bones right now either. But i dont know what actually happened behind the scenes. He wouldn't be in the rotation. Malone could always go to Reggie and sacrifice some defense if he absolutely needed to. The problem is that in the starting lineup, Murray has to do the heavy lifting. The bench minutes haven't even been the issue in the series. It's actually the minutes with Jokic on the floor. The Nuggets don't run any actions with KCP, MPJ or AG as a ball handler. It's all Murray/Jokic. That's the issue.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 25, 2023 9:30:12 GMT -5
Tough to tell, Malone used to have a lot of trust in Bones. Before whatever happened happened
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