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Post by jimijam28 on May 2, 2023 23:00:50 GMT -5
yawn- now closed this s**t thread that sticky started
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on May 2, 2023 23:03:58 GMT -5
nah, wait for Taco Bell to take a note from Philly and name Joker the Most Valuable Pickduringatacobellcommercial
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 2, 2023 23:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 3, 2023 0:08:37 GMT -5
Congrats to Kendrick Perkins for winning Embiid the award Because everyone that voted takes Perkins super seriously |
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Post by famicommander on May 3, 2023 22:23:08 GMT -5
Playoff averages so far
Embiid:
18.8 points, 9.3 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 0.8 steals, 3.0 blocks, 3.0 fouls, 4.5 turnovers, 45.8% FG, 10.0% 3PT, 93.8% FT
Jokic:
27.7 points, 13.9 rebounds, 7.9 assists, 1.1 steals, 0.4 blocks, 3.4 fouls, 2.9 turnovers, 49.3% FG, 46.7% 3PT, 74.4% FT
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on May 3, 2023 22:24:57 GMT -5
Playoff averages so far Embiid: 18.8 points, 9.3 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 0.8 steals, 3.0 blocks, 3.0 fouls, 4.5 turnovers, 45.8% FG, 10.0% 3PT, 93.8% FT Jokic: 27.7 points, 13.9 rebounds, 7.9 assists, 0.4 blocks, 1.1 steals, 3.4 fouls, 2.9 turnovers, 49.3% FG, 46.7% 3PT, 74.4% FT of course, it's a regular-season award. Which people of course were upset about when Jokic only won one series in the last 2 playoffs, with guys like Austin Rivers and Facu playing significant minutes and even starting games... |
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 4, 2023 5:45:42 GMT -5
ow I’m somehow happy Joel Embiid won the MVP. All the Jokic narratives are gone now 😂
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 4, 2023 5:46:09 GMT -5
Playoff averages so far Embiid: 18.8 points, 9.3 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 0.8 steals, 3.0 blocks, 3.0 fouls, 4.5 turnovers, 45.8% FG, 10.0% 3PT, 93.8% FT Jokic: 27.7 points, 13.9 rebounds, 7.9 assists, 0.4 blocks, 1.1 steals, 3.4 fouls, 2.9 turnovers, 49.3% FG, 46.7% 3PT, 74.4% FT of course, it's a regular-season award. Which people of course were upset about when Jokic only won one series in the last 2 playoffs, with guys like Austin Rivers and Facu playing significant minutes and even starting games... It wasn’t a regular season award after Jokic won it |
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 4, 2023 7:11:02 GMT -5
Fami should make his own award because winning the MVP obviously dont mean s**t
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Post by JB on May 4, 2023 13:08:47 GMT -5
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Post by famicommander on May 4, 2023 13:59:25 GMT -5
Fami should make his own award because winning the MVP obviously dont mean s**t "winning" vs throwing a 3 year childish tantrum backed by a full force media campaign and the race card I'll say it again: Embiid has no coherent case for winning this award. Over the course of the regular season Jokic was drastically better. It shouldn't have been close and nobody has yet presented anything close to a good argument in Embiid's favor. It's all "Jokic doesn't deserve 3 in a row" "It's Embiid's turn" "Jokic gets special treatment like Nash and Dirk because they're white" "but the eye test though!" |
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Post by JB on May 4, 2023 14:12:36 GMT -5
Embiid has never used the race card and he can't control what professional morons like Kendrick Perkins say on air.
Embiid has always been deferential towards Jokic, the worst thing he's ever said was Jokic was been untruthful when he said he didn't care about winning the award.
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Post by famicommander on May 4, 2023 14:18:46 GMT -5
Embiid has never used the race card and he can't control what professional morons like Kendrick Perkins say on air. Embiid has always been deferential towards Jokic, the worst thing he's ever said was Jokic was been untruthful when he said he didn't care about winning the award. He literally called out Jokic and said he didn't play defense and wouldn't hold up in the playoffs a few hours before he ducked the game against us in Denver. And it's not about him calling out Jokic per se anyway, it's about him complaining relentlessly in the media about how nobody likes him and how the standards for winning MVP seem to change and how "he doesn't know what he has to do" to win one. Three solid years of passive aggressive jabs every time someone stuck a mic in his face. Embiid has been publicly begging for this award for 3 years and throwing fits when he didn't win it. He finally got handed one because everyone was just sick of it, like a child who wears down their mom throwing a tantrum for a toy or some candy at the store and gets their bad behavior rewarded at the end. |
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Post by JB on May 4, 2023 14:24:58 GMT -5
Jokic didn't win because voter fatigue is real, the optics of stumbling to the finishing line was bad, voters weren't quite comfortable giving Jokic a distinction MJ/Bron/Magic hadn't achieved and arguably the two most influential voices in the media landscape publicly switched their support from Joker to Embiid.
I mean, are we honestly going to argue that Lowe and Simmons were motivated by sparing Embiid's feelings? lol
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Post by famicommander on May 4, 2023 14:47:26 GMT -5
Jokic didn't win because voter fatigue is real, the optics of stumbling to the finishing line was bad, voters weren't quite comfortable giving Jokic a distinction MJ/Bron/Magic hadn't achieved and arguably the two most influential voices in the media landscape publicly switched their support from Joker to Embiid. I mean, are we honestly going to argue that Lowe and Simmons were motivated by sparing Embiid's feelings? lol They were all looking for their own reasons not to give it to Jokic and enough of them found one. I don't believe a single one of the voters believes in their heart of hearts that Embiid had a better season. Because it's not possible to look at it objectively and come to that conclusion. |
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Post by JB on May 4, 2023 14:50:57 GMT -5
if Embiid has managed to stay healthy enough to win the 21 MVP, the odds of Jokic winning now would be a near slam dunk.
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Post by famicommander on May 4, 2023 15:01:07 GMT -5
if Embiid has managed to stay healthy enough to win the 21 MVP, the odds of Jokic winning now would be a near slam dunk. And that's utterly shameful. Even if Embiid played the exact same number of games as Jokic he didn't have anything resembling a case in any of these three seasons. It's like we always start from the basic position that Jokic doesn't deserve it before any games are even played, and the onus is on Jokic to outplay Embiid by such a margin that there is no choice.- This is like someone in the late 90s trying to convince themselves that Patrick Ewing deserved an MVP over Jordan. Embiid isn't even Malone, who also never deserved one over Jordan. There's nothing wrong with Patrick Ewing, he's a deserving HOF player, but he was never the best player in the NBA and neither has Embiid been. |
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Post by jimijam28 on May 4, 2023 16:09:10 GMT -5
Let it go
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 5, 2023 7:04:49 GMT -5
Fami should make his own award because winning the MVP obviously dont mean s**t "winning" vs throwing a 3 year childish tantrum backed by a full force media campaign and the race card I'll say it again: Embiid has no coherent case for winning this award. Over the course of the regular season Jokic was drastically better. It shouldn't have been close and nobody has yet presented anything close to a good argument in Embiid's favor. It's all "Jokic doesn't deserve 3 in a row" "It's Embiid's turn" "Jokic gets special treatment like Nash and Dirk because they're white" "but the eye test though!" Winning the MVP is winning the MVP. I dont think Embiid winning is very deserved, but the MVP have never really been about who is the best player. The two years Jokic won wasnt an exception (my opinion is that it was deserved). Either you think the MVP means you are the best player and you value it, or you think its a joke. Cant be selective depending on who wins You obsess over an award you dont respect? |
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 5, 2023 7:06:01 GMT -5
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