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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:45:01 GMT -5
It's not completely over though, TC has to decide whether to extend Plumlee or not. And I don't know how to feel about it at that point. I don't trust the coaching anymore. I am posting after a huge loss, but I am again not feeling good ol' coach Malone again. Provide him with a Dream Team and he will f**k it up. Malone has done nothing to put Plumlee in a position to succeed. Same with Barton. Same with Murray. Backup C that needs to be partially running the offense to be effective. Backup SG/SF that needs to be a catch and shoot/slasher guy with the occasional iso. Same as above.
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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 1:47:18 GMT -5
How would a 4 game sweep good for experience? Lol
Very minute for the 9th seed and the team that barely got in. Both teams has the same issues. One team just happens to edge out a couple more wins.
8th seeds are always fodder (yes I know my 94 Nuggs prove that wrong, but that was a very unique situation).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:48:49 GMT -5
How would a 4 game sweep good for experience? Lol Very minute for the 9th seed and the team that barely got in. Both teams has the same issues. One team just happens to edge out a couple more wins. 8th seeds are always fodder (yes I know my 94 Nuggs prove that wrong, but that was a very unique situation). Well I think legitimate playoff experience is always a good thing, and it was something the Nuggets as a franchise really needed because of attendance/media type things as well.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 1:50:06 GMT -5
I don't know if this is on Malone or the players but I'll post it here nonetheless.
Portland fed Nurkic all game, that is they trusted him to do what he does. He's only been there for what 2 months?
The Nuggets players on the otherhand, despite Jokic killing it for the whole season, still don't treat him like he's the best player on the floor when the team needs offence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:52:15 GMT -5
I don't know if this is on Malone or the players but I'll post it here nonetheless. Portland fed Nurkic all game, that is they trusted him to do what he does. He's only been there for what 2 months? The Nuggets players on the otherhand, despite Jokic killing it for the whole season, still don't treat him like he's the best player on the floor when the team needs offence. Jameer Nelson. Danilo Gallinari. Wilson Chandler. All I need to post about that.
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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 1:52:25 GMT -5
How would a 4 game sweep good for experience? Lol Very minute for the 9th seed and the team that barely got in. Both teams has the same issues. One team just happens to edge out a couple more wins. 8th seeds are always fodder (yes I know my 94 Nuggs prove that wrong, but that was a very unique situation). Well I think legitimate playoff experience is always a good thing, and it was something the Nuggets as a franchise really needed because of attendance/media type things as well. To be completely demoralized and outed by your opponent for your defenciencies on a national viewing audience? Yeah. Nothing builds confidence more than that. Admit it. You just wanted tnt to talk about this team which would mostly be the warriors anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:55:48 GMT -5
Well I think legitimate playoff experience is always a good thing, and it was something the Nuggets as a franchise really needed because of attendance/media type things as well. To be completely demoralized and outed by your opponent for your defenciencies on a national viewing audience? Yeah. Nothing builds confidence more than that. Admit it. You just wanted tnt to talk about this team which would mostly be the warriors anyway. Lmao I could care less about TNT. We have like the worst attendance in the entire NBA. If you make the playoffs and hang tough with the Warriors fans will see that and want to come back considering our team is young. Missing the playoffs again is going to do nothing to change our attendance. And there's no way you can convince me that Jokic/Harris/Murray playing in playoff games wouldn't be good experience. Even if they got destroyed it's something to help motivate them in the offseason. Shows them how far away they actually are.
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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 2:14:37 GMT -5
To be completely demoralized and outed by your opponent for your defenciencies on a national viewing audience? Yeah. Nothing builds confidence more than that. Admit it. You just wanted tnt to talk about this team which would mostly be the warriors anyway. Lmao I could care less about TNT. We have like the worst attendance in the entire NBA. If you make the playoffs and hang tough with the Warriors fans will see that and want to come back considering our team is young. Missing the playoffs again is going to do nothing to change our attendance. And there's no way you can convince me that Jokic/Harris/Murray playing in playoff games wouldn't be good experience. Even if they got destroyed it's something to help motivate them in the offseason. Shows them how far away they actually are. It would not help attendance. Colorado fanbases are well... Unless you follow Blue & Orange there will never be a collective fanbase. More of a cult following which this forum is a prime example. It was funny when posted but really, only five active posters on this board.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 2:17:40 GMT -5
Lmao I could care less about TNT. We have like the worst attendance in the entire NBA. If you make the playoffs and hang tough with the Warriors fans will see that and want to come back considering our team is young. Missing the playoffs again is going to do nothing to change our attendance. And there's no way you can convince me that Jokic/Harris/Murray playing in playoff games wouldn't be good experience. Even if they got destroyed it's something to help motivate them in the offseason. Shows them how far away they actually are. It would not help attendance. Colorado fanbases are well... Unless you follow Blue & Orange there will never be a collective fanbase. More of a cult following which this forum is a prime example. It was funny when posted but really, only five active posters on this board. Winning = attendance. Will Denver ever be a Nuggets town? No. Were they the worst attended team in the NBA during the Melo era? Nope...believe they were in the middle of the pack.
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Post by eathb on Mar 29, 2017 2:18:56 GMT -5
Seeing Mike Miller in a suit actually makes me think maybe him as our next HC when Malone finishes.
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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 2:20:56 GMT -5
Melo and a known coach like Karl can do that for you. Plus they won more than they lost.
Under 500 team will not get the same results. Squeezing into the playoffs.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 2:25:17 GMT -5
Seeing Mike Miller in a suit actually makes me think maybe him as our next HC when Malone finishes. You sure you'd want a coach that was a student of MM?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 2:51:19 GMT -5
Melo and a known coach like Karl can do that for you. Plus they won more than they lost. Under 500 team will not get the same results. Squeezing into the playoffs. Sure but we just had a sellout crowd because the Nugs were in a playoff race and then lost by 25 lol. My point is the more you win, the more likely fans are to show up. If they took the Warriors to 6 or 7 games it would do a lot for attendance next season IMO. You need a fan base to be excited about their team. Missing the playoffs isn't exciting unless you win the lottery.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Mar 29, 2017 3:26:54 GMT -5
Well I think legitimate playoff experience is always a good thing, and it was something the Nuggets as a franchise really needed because of attendance/media type things as well. To be completely demoralized and outed by your opponent for your defenciencies on a national viewing audience? Yeah. Nothing builds confidence more than that. Admit it. You just wanted tnt to talk about this team which would mostly be the warriors anyway. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by inyourmind on Mar 29, 2017 3:59:35 GMT -5
streamable.com/5hoilPosted this in the game thread. Some guys pointed it out, but didn't realize he and Jokic hugged it out too. Jokic usually can get chippy when he's getting destroyed but thought he was kinda tame tonight. No bad blood there at all from the looks of it. Did we ever get confirmation Nurkic left the arena? It's weird. Nurkic doesn't really seem that toxic right now. It honestly seems like he just wanted to play, Malone and him didn't see eye to eye, and nobody really had an issue with it. It really is looking like a Malone/Nurkic situation, rather than a Nuggets/Nurkic situation which kinda sucks. I think one things clear outside of Malone. We need to shake up the roster. Get guys like Gallo, Faried, Chandler outta here.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 4:11:04 GMT -5
I don't want to get started on the trade again but I will say this, of course Nurk isn't going to look toxic right now, the Blazers are killing it and he's killing it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 4:13:11 GMT -5
I don't want to get started on the trade again but I will say this, of course Nurk isn't going to look toxic right now, the Blazers are killing it and he's killing it. Yep but at the same time Nurk didn't act toxic until he got DNPs. Don't see that happening in Portland, and I'm pretty sure a guy like Lillard can keep him in check.
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Post by inyourmind on Mar 29, 2017 4:21:14 GMT -5
I don't want to get started on the trade again but I will say this, of course Nurk isn't going to look toxic right now, the Blazers are killing it and he's killing it. I meant with Denver. Everyone on the Nuggets and Nurkic looked genuinely cool with eachother. He had took mini shots at Malone in the media talking about minutes, and if he was that much of a b***h as it originally appeared, and left the lockeroom than guys looked surprisingly cool with it. There's being professional and shaking hands, but that was a warm welcoming. There wasn't really the heat I think people were expecting. Nurkic tried to kill us, but nobody was going at him and Nurkic wasn't going at guys individually either. Just saying after last night it looks more like Nurkic/Malone than it does Nurkic becoming a cancer inside the lockerroom. Nobody looked like they had any issues with him at all. As if to say he wasn't ruining chemistry. I've went at Malone, and stuck up for Nurkic, but even I thought he was hurting team chemistry and had to get traded. He seemed like he was entirely done in Denver and the bridge was burnt. Maybe that's still true, but I think it's possible it was always just about actually playing and getting consistent minutes. That he and the other guys were fine, and chemistry was fine. The fact that Faried chose this game to call out Malone? Why not the NOLA game? Nurkic/Faried were exchanging words post game. I think when the team cancer destroys you in the most important game of the season and had issues with the coach than there probably not as genuinely friendly as they were last night.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 4:23:38 GMT -5
I noticed that. Could be nothing of course but Faried hugged Nurk the longest and was talking in his ear.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 4:40:47 GMT -5
Well I mean what could they have called Malone out about after the Pelicans game? It wasn't his fault that the bench played with no effort and the starters played stupid after the half. That game definitely wasn't on him.
Tonight, Malone lost the game at the tip. My first few posts of the game thread were "man I really hope Malone is smart enough to start Plumlee or Faried so we don't get destroyed on the glass." "Malone uses his lineup and we are getting killed on the glass. Wow."
He started Chandler and Portland had like 11 offensive rebounds at half. Anyone with a brain would realize that was going to happen. Nurkic is huge and Vonleh is a legitimate 4 whereas Chandler is realistically a 3. Jokic isn't strong enough to keep Nurk off the glass, hell 90% of NBA centers aren't.
Normally I'm against matching up with teams and changing your starting lineups to match up...but the problem is that one of Faried/Plumlee have to be in the starting lineup because they can't play with each other. I thought Malone was going to give Faried a game or 2 to warm up and then put him back in the starting lineup but it looks like that ship has sailed. The best part is putting one of Faried/Plumlee in the starting lineup and putting Chandler on the bench not only improves our starting lineup, it also improves our bench and rotation.
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