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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 0:31:27 GMT -5
My favorite thing Malone did tonight was Plumlee threw an alley oop off the backboard, Faried could be heard on camera saying "what the f**k was that?" and then Malone took him out next whistle. Faried got penalized because of Plumlee's s**t play. Definitely think that played a part in Faried being pissed after the game. Ha. I didn't hear that but awesome once again. Good on Faried as that was a terrible lob if you want to call it that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 0:31:45 GMT -5
I don't know why I'm hesitant to join the fire Malone camp but he has done nothing to convince me that he's the coach for the future yet. Certain posters will act like it's just fans being fans but the Jokic/Nurkic situation was a massssssiveeeee f**k up. Now the players seem to be backing up what we said along with two players Chandler/Nurkic being straight up unhappy here. Watching Nurkic talk to the Nuggets players, they couldn't give a s**t. Usually when you have a good coach, guys back him up. Nuggets effort has been inconsistent all year. Basically what's in Malone's favor is Jokic going off for 19/11/6 for 42 games. Like without that were screwed. So basically Jokic playing amazing, gets Malone credit, even tho he missed it because remember he literally has a quote where he more or less calls Jokic a role player, and to lower expectations earlier in the season. He stumbled on Jokic when the Nuggets were falling apart and his season got saved. Correct. And if you have intelligent ownership/front office they will see that Malone has done literally nothing to help this team and has done a ton to hurt it. Ran Nurk out of town. Awful rotations, ATO plays, end of game decisions, etc. Not realizing Jokic was our best player until 12/15 when every Nuggets fan knew this was the case. He should be fired. There's no way around it. If you want to give him another year, go ahead. Nothing is going to change next year. You don't just suddenly become a great coach. You either have it or you don't. Can you improve? Sure. But you take a guy like Brad Stevens and look at what he's done with Boston...does anyone think Malone is capable of that? Absolutely not.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 0:33:06 GMT -5
smh South Australian school system
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 0:35:10 GMT -5
My favorite thing Malone did tonight was Plumlee threw an alley oop off the backboard, Faried could be heard on camera saying "what the f**k was that?" and then Malone took him out next whistle. Faried got penalized because of Plumlee's s**t play. Definitely think that played a part in Faried being pissed after the game. Ha. I didn't hear that but awesome once again. Good on Faried as that was a terrible lob if you want to call it that. Yep. Everyone knows I don't like Barton on the court but after seeing the Faried/Barton post game interviews I gained a ton of respect for them. You can tell how much they care, how frustrated they are, etc. Faried goes from bench player, to starter to bench player because of an injury. Chandler starter, bench, starter. Jameer bench, starter. Mudiay starter, DNP. Jokic starter, bench, starter. Like look at that. That's f***ing ridiculous for an NBA team. It's not like Juancho starting guys who are out because they're hurt. These guys literally change their roles multiple times throughout the season and lose their starting roles due to injury.
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Post by josh on Mar 29, 2017 0:37:34 GMT -5
smh South Australian school system Victorian not south Australian pft. Say that to Truch and he's bad tasting Adelaide water
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Post by GBG on Mar 29, 2017 0:38:33 GMT -5
A thought occurred to me. What if our players gave license to Nurkic to send a message to coach and FO by giving him the paint and allowing him to put up career numbers?
Not likely, I realize. But no one played D on Nurk and he looked like he was playing in an AllStar rookie/soph event.
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Post by JB on Mar 29, 2017 0:38:58 GMT -5
smh South Australian school system thumbs up for reminding me of Ozzy Man Reviews. I could use a good laugh right now.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 0:39:42 GMT -5
smh South Australian school system Victorian not south Australian pft. Say that to Truch and he's bad tasting Adelaide water Oh s**t I don't know why I thought you were from Adelaide. My mistake.
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Post by altitudesickness on Mar 29, 2017 0:41:07 GMT -5
A thought occurred to me. What if our players gave license to Nurkic to send a message to coach and FO by giving him the paint and allowing him to put up career numbers? Not likely, I realize. But no one played D on Nurk and he looked like he was playing in an AllStar rookie/soph event. This would make me feel better than we just suck and nurk is the next shaq
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Post by josh on Mar 29, 2017 0:45:09 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that TC is going to overpay/match any offer on plumlee to make a statement and so we didn't give nurk away for 'free'
He's publicly said plumlee will be back, and teams know that ... They will give him huge offer sheets because they know he will match and make him look like an idiot.
Portland did the same thing giving max offer sheets to have Hibbert and pekovic becuase they knew the other team would match
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Post by JB on Mar 29, 2017 0:45:18 GMT -5
highly highly doubt Jokic would willingly lay down to Nurk just to prove some point. his competitiveness plus the whole Serbian pride thing wouldn't let that happen.
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Post by GBG on Mar 29, 2017 0:49:16 GMT -5
highly highly doubt Jokic would willingly lay down to Nurk just to prove some point. his competitiveness plus the whole Serbian pride thing wouldn't let that happen. Most of the time Chandler or someone else was on Nurk, not Jokic. At least it seemd so. I may watch his YouTube highlights to make sure. EDIT: watched YouTube highlights. It was Jokic mostly getting beasted by Nurk. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:01:35 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that TC is going to overpay/match any offer on plumlee to make a statement and so we didn't give nurk away for 'free' He's publicly said plumlee will be back, and teams know that ... They will give him huge offer sheets because they know he will match and make him look like an idiot. Portland did the same thing giving max offer sheets to have Hibbert and pekovic becuase they knew the other team would match Yep. It takes a really confident person to admit you fucked up and to not try to save face. The trade was horrible. We all need to accept it. The Nurk part of the trade needed to happen, but we gave up a 1st and got an atrocious big back. Cut your losses and sign a big that can help the team in FA for a cheaper contract and learn from your mistake. You never trade a promising young big to a team in your conference let alone your division. And if people are going to continually say that Nurk had 0 value and no team would take him, I think you're just clueless. I'm sure 0 teams besides the Blazers would have given up anything for a 22 year old C with 15/10/3 blocks potential.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:04:10 GMT -5
highly highly doubt Jokic would willingly lay down to Nurk just to prove some point. his competitiveness plus the whole Serbian pride thing wouldn't let that happen. Most of the time Chandler or someone else was on Nurk, not Jokic. At least it seemd so. I may watch his YouTube highlights to make sure. EDIT: watched YouTube highlights. It was Jokic mostly getting beasted by Nurk. Oh well. All comes down to coaching. Everyone in the world knew going in Nurkic is too strong for Jokic. He's too strong for most of the bigs in the NBA. So instead of starting Plumlee who can hedge out on PnRs and prevent Nurk from getting easy baskets, Malone started Jokic who gets destroyed in PnR against scoring PGs. So if Jokic commits to Nurk, Dame scores. If he commits to Dame, Nurk scores. Most of Nurk's points came from the PnR. I knew it. The beat writers knew it. But Malone was too f***ing clueless to realize it. Plumlee starts this game it does multiple things. A) Prevents Nurk from destroying us in PnRs with Lillard. B) Prevents a Faried/Plumlee bench rotation which has never, and will never work. Malone gonna Malone.
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Post by josh on Mar 29, 2017 1:04:47 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that TC is going to overpay/match any offer on plumlee to make a statement and so we didn't give nurk away for 'free' He's publicly said plumlee will be back, and teams know that ... They will give him huge offer sheets because they know he will match and make him look like an idiot. Portland did the same thing giving max offer sheets to have Hibbert and pekovic becuase they knew the other team would match Yep. It takes a really confident person to admit you fucked up and to not try to save face. The trade was horrible. We all need to accept it. The Nurk part of the trade needed to happen, but we gave up a 1st and got an atrocious big back. Cut your losses and sign a big that can help the team in FA for a cheaper contract and learn from your mistake. You never trade a promising young big to a team in your conference let alone your division. And if people are going to continually say that Nurk had 0 value and no team would take him, I think you're just clueless. I'm sure 0 teams besides the Blazers would have given up anything for a 22 year old C with 15/10/3 blocks potential. we didn't get fair value for nurk becuase in my opinion TC paniked and gave in. Blazers were actually just about to start the trade call to leageu office with Philly for jahil okafor. When TC found that out I reckon he just gave in
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:11:01 GMT -5
Yep. It takes a really confident person to admit you fucked up and to not try to save face. The trade was horrible. We all need to accept it. The Nurk part of the trade needed to happen, but we gave up a 1st and got an atrocious big back. Cut your losses and sign a big that can help the team in FA for a cheaper contract and learn from your mistake. You never trade a promising young big to a team in your conference let alone your division. And if people are going to continually say that Nurk had 0 value and no team would take him, I think you're just clueless. I'm sure 0 teams besides the Blazers would have given up anything for a 22 year old C with 15/10/3 blocks potential. we didn't get fair value for nurk becuase in my opinion TC paniked and gave in. Blazers were actually just about to start the trade call to leageu office with Philly for jahil okafor. When TC found that out I reckon he just gave in Possibly. I think TC in his head viewed Plumlee as Jokic lite...and maybe he is. I mean Plumlee does not play the Jokic role and I've said that time and time again. We do not play through Plumlee. We play through Barton. So when you take a guys best asset away from him he's going to look horrific as Plumlee has. Again, it all comes down to coaching. Plumlee has been terrible, I don't want him back but Malone has done nothing but put him in a position to fail.
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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 1:34:14 GMT -5
I wished everyone would let the trade go. It had to happen as he was malcontent at that point.
The finger you should be pointed at is the reason he became malcontent.
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Post by eathb on Mar 29, 2017 1:36:28 GMT -5
It's not completely over though, TC has to decide whether to extend Plumlee or not.
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Post by Phonzie20 on Mar 29, 2017 1:41:52 GMT -5
It's not completely over though, TC has to decide whether to extend Plumlee or not. And I don't know how to feel about it at that point. I don't trust the coaching anymore. I am posting after a huge loss, but I am again not feeling good ol' coach Malone again. Provide him with a Dream Team and he will f**k it up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 1:43:33 GMT -5
I wished everyone would let the trade go. It had to happen as he was malcontent at that point. The finger you should be pointed at is the reason he became malcontent. Yeah the trade doesn't really bother me, it's the fact that it could have been prevented and was caused by a terrible coach. Part of being a coach is knowing how to deal with your players. Some guys you have to be hard on, some guys you have to be friendly with, etc. Malone doesn't have a clue. It's very clear. All evidence points to it. The only negative about the trade for me is that we handed Nurk to a team that we're going to be battling for a playoff spot with the next few years. We bailed them out of Plumlee and gave them a young C with great potential that got them the 8 seed over us. Would a 4 game sweep against GS been good for experience? Sure. Is Malone getting fired and our vets going bye bye more important than that playoff series? IMO 100% yes. So missing the playoffs could end up being a blessing in disguise. We're much more likely to make changes if we miss out. And hell, maybe we get a miracle in the lottery? Imagine Josh Jackson on this team?
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