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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 24, 2017 15:59:31 GMT -5
One loss after the all-star break and Malone sucks again. Stay classy NT.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 16:14:52 GMT -5
#1 Tymes Rhymes fan
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Post by eathb on Feb 24, 2017 17:32:16 GMT -5
Also, isn't Pop revered because he coached and treated Duncan, Parker, and Manu the same as all players who played for the Spurs? Malone doesn't give an appearance of doing that because it sure did look like Jokic got pulled for chucking a bad three, but we've seen other Nuggets do it a lot and stay on the court. I hope tonight's game against the Nets is an improved performance from players and the coach and Malone's handling of Jokic and minutes for the roster becomes a non-issue. Yep. Just in the last couple of years, Kerr has called out Curry, Popps has called out Gasol, Carlisle has called out Rondo (and then proceeded to stop playing him). Heck Andrew Bogut was benched in the finals and made a deal about it in the media and Kerr didn't budge. Tyron Lue also benched Mozgov in the finals. Brad Stevens benched Jameer on Boston. Most of these players players have achieved way more over their careers than all the vets (except maybe Jameer) on our roster. Why aren't these coaches scared of setting the same standards? Why does Malone hold guys to different standards on the Nuggets? |
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Post by game on Feb 24, 2017 17:59:43 GMT -5
I didn't watch last night's game, I only heard his postgame comments about Jokic. I had no problem with them.
I keep going back to this - which of the 7 teams in front of the Nuggets in the standings right now would we be in front of if Malone didn't suck so much?
Look around the league at the other teams relying heavily on 22-and-under guys. The guys who people compare Jokic to. How many of those teams are showing the Nuggets how it should be done if Malone didn't suck so much? Milwaukee? Minnesota? Lakers? Knicks? Sixers?
I think we blame the coach because there's nowhere else to assign blame. Most on here are afraid to point out that some nights Jokic doesn't play well. He didn't play well against Towns last week. Murray, by all accounts, was awful last night. That's life with young players. If you want the young guys to get experience, you have to live with the ups and down. Odd wins when things click (Golden State), and odd losses when they don't (last night).
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Post by inyourmind on Feb 24, 2017 18:04:40 GMT -5
One loss after the all-star break and Malone sucks again. Stay classy NT. He's sucked for most of the season. He literally has played with the rotations to a hilarious degree. Got one guy to come out and ask for a trade, got Wilson Chandler to ask for a trade, had our future franchise player on the bench for the first chunk of the season, after his break out not only yanks him and doesn't get involved after his worst game of the season but throws him under the bus to the media? Malone called Jokic out to the media. The same Jokic who has no ego, who came to Malone and said he'd come off the bench earlier in the season instead of Malone actually making the right call himself. Same Jokic who outside of his defense his one knock would be confidence/aggressiveness. I just don't get why people feel the need to constantly defend Malone. He hasn't proved anything in his career or with his time in Denver. If he destroys Jokic's confidence than our future is broke. This is why NBA players need to be dramatic babies and have large ego's. Jokic if he wanted too could get Malone tossed. He could b***h for more minutes like Nelson, Faried, Chandler, Nurkic did. He has more power and worth to the franchise. He's not like that tho, which is amazing for building ala Duncan. It's only amazing when you have a coach who actually realizes it tho. Jokic struggled last night, it was a great chance to gain some experience, development, and work through it. I'm giving him a pass for the other bullshit like letting Barton be the backup PG despite the fact that atleast 1-2 guys struggle when paired with him. He's a death sentence to Mudiay/Murray whenever they've shared the floor together. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 18:09:23 GMT -5
One loss after the all-star break and Malone sucks again. Stay classy NT. He's sucked for most of the season. He literally has played with the rotations to a hilarious degree. Got one guy to come out and ask for a trade, got Wilson Chandler to ask for a trade, had our future franchise player on the bench for the first chunk of the season, after his break out not only yanks him and doesn't get involved after his worst game of the season but throws him under the bus to the media? Malone called Jokic out to the media. The same Jokic who has no ego, who came to Malone and said he'd come off the bench earlier in the season instead of Malone actually making the right call himself. Same Jokic who outside of his defense his one knock would be confidence/aggressiveness. I just don't get why people feel the need to constantly defend Malone. He hasn't proved anything in his career or with his time in Denver. If he destroys Jokic's confidence than our future is broke. This is why NBA players need to be dramatic babies and have large ego's. Jokic if he wanted too could get Malone tossed. He could b***h for more minutes like Nelson, Faried, Chandler, Nurkic did. He has more power and worth to the franchise. He's not like that tho, which is amazing for building ala Duncan. It's only amazing when you have a coach who actually realizes it tho. Jokic struggled last night, it was a great chance to gain some experience, development, and work through it. I'm giving him a pass for the other bullshit like letting Barton be the backup PG despite the fact that atleast 1-2 guys struggle when paired with him. He's a death sentence to Mudiay/Murray whenever they've shared the floor together. Guess I can go the Erik route. #1 inyourmind fan I blame Malone for divisiveness on this forum.  Peace and love brothers in Nuggets land. Let's avoid snappy, snide one-liners like "Stay classy NT" and just go with "The Nuggets made me mad at you on the forums bro!" |
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Post by inyourmind on Feb 24, 2017 18:10:36 GMT -5
I didn't watch last night's game, I only heard his postgame comments about Jokic. I had no problem with them. I keep going back to this - which of the 7 teams in front of the Nuggets in the standings right now would we be in front of if Malone didn't suck so much? Look around the league at the other teams relying heavily on 22-and-under guys. The guys who people compare Jokic to. How many of those teams are showing the Nuggets how it should be done if Malone didn't suck so much? Milwaukee? Minnesota? Lakers? Knicks? Sixers? I think we blame the coach because there's nowhere else to assign blame. Most on here are afraid to point out that some nights Jokic doesn't play well. He didn't play well against Towns last week. Murray, by all accounts, was awful last night. That's life with young players. If you want the young guys to get experience, you have to live with the ups and down. Odd wins when things click (Golden State), and odd losses when they don't (last night). We wouldn't be ahead of any teams probably, which isn't the point. Do you think our record wouldn't be better had Jokic not been the guy since game 1? Not trying to be a dick but do me a favor and check our record with Jokic playing 30+ minutes vs him not playing those minutes. Jokic didn't play well at all last night yet he was +5. Had 10 boards, was getting killed defensively like everyone on the floor, but he wasn't involved scoring at all. 7 FGA mostly on broken plays, stuff he had to rush himself. Check the record when he's heavily involved vs when he's not. Nuggets are gunna Nugget regardless. Anybody who's been a long time fan knows this. Nobody should have high expectations. Malone has made a ton of mistakes this year, and the culture of the team has had it's fair share of drama, effort has been questionable, schemes for most of the years outside of letting Jokic finally create for others has been pretty bad as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 18:14:41 GMT -5
Nuggets are gunna Nugget regardless. You should make this into a t-shirt lol. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 18:44:45 GMT -5
One loss after the all-star break and Malone sucks again. Stay classy NT. He's sucked for most of the season. He literally has played with the rotations to a hilarious degree. Got one guy to come out and ask for a trade, got Wilson Chandler to ask for a trade, had our future franchise player on the bench for the first chunk of the season, after his break out not only yanks him and doesn't get involved after his worst game of the season but throws him under the bus to the media? Malone called Jokic out to the media. The same Jokic who has no ego, who came to Malone and said he'd come off the bench earlier in the season instead of Malone actually making the right call himself. Same Jokic who outside of his defense his one knock would be confidence/aggressiveness. I just don't get why people feel the need to constantly defend Malone. i just dont get why you think all our youngsters are such pussies that cant handle some bench time or being called out to the media. if you can even call it that |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 18:46:23 GMT -5
Also, isn't Pop revered because he coached and treated Duncan, Parker, and Manu the same as all players who played for the Spurs? Malone doesn't give an appearance of doing that because it sure did look like Jokic got pulled for chucking a bad three, but we've seen other Nuggets do it a lot and stay on the court. I hope tonight's game against the Nets is an improved performance from players and the coach and Malone's handling of Jokic and minutes for the roster becomes a non-issue. Yep. Just in the last couple of years, Kerr has called out Curry, Popps has called out Gasol, Carlisle has called out Rondo (and then proceeded to stop playing him). Heck Andrew Bogut was benched in the finals and made a deal about it in the media and Kerr didn't budge. Tyron Lue also benched Mozgov in the finals. Brad Stevens benched Jameer on Boston. Most of these players players have achieved way more over their careers than all the vets (except maybe Jameer) on our roster. Why aren't these coaches scared of setting the same standards? Why does Malone hold guys to different standards on the Nuggets? I wish we had a coach that had the balls to call out one of our players well, the players i want him to call out ofc |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 18:53:08 GMT -5
Yep. Just in the last couple of years, Kerr has called out Curry, Popps has called out Gasol, Carlisle has called out Rondo (and then proceeded to stop playing him). Heck Andrew Bogut was benched in the finals and made a deal about it in the media and Kerr didn't budge. Tyron Lue also benched Mozgov in the finals. Brad Stevens benched Jameer on Boston. Most of these players players have achieved way more over their careers than all the vets (except maybe Jameer) on our roster. Why aren't these coaches scared of setting the same standards? Why does Malone hold guys to different standards on the Nuggets? I wish we had a coach that had the balls to call out one of our players well, the players i want him to call out ofc You're incorrectly reading his post. He's not saying "the players I want him (Malone) to call out." He's wanting Malone to be consistent in how he leads and coaches the players. Not everyone clearly agrees with that style, but treating the people you lead with the same standards is a pretty basic concept in leadership theory. From a fan's glance at games and post-game interviews, it's easy to conclude Malone doesn't; however, as you've commented in other posts we don't know s**t about it for sure since we aren't in the know, on the team, behind closed doors, etc. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 19:03:10 GMT -5
what does he know about how Malone coach and especiallt leads his players tho?
could it be that Malone watched Jokic in the MInny game where he forced the 3 (as he did) when he got frustrated, and told him not to do that anymore, maybe even told him to stay away from the 3pt shot for a little while. and when Jokic again got frustrated and threw up a 3, maybe wanted to bring him to the bench and have one of his assistants talk to him.. this is just speculation, we have no f***ing idea what standard malone holds his players to
all i see in that quote is someone wanting Malone to call out a Jameer or a Barton
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 19:06:39 GMT -5
Malone should have the same (made up) talk with WC and tell him to stop shooting 3s tho
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Post by inyourmind on Feb 24, 2017 19:15:02 GMT -5
I wish we had a coach that had the balls to call out one of our players well, the players i want him to call out ofc You're incorrectly reading his post. He's not saying "the players I want him (Malone) to call out." He's wanting Malone to be consistent in how he leads and coaches the players. Not everyone clearly agrees with that style, but treating the people you lead with the same standards is a pretty basic concept in leadership theory. From a fan's glance at games and post-game interviews, it's easy to conclude Malone doesn't; however, as you've commented in other posts we don't know s**t about it for sure since we aren't in the know, on the team, behind closed doors, etc. Pretty much. All great coaches are one thing. Consistent. Malone has undeniable so been inconsistent from top to bottom this season. I mean Chandler told a reporter in his own words that. Where not in the lockeroom but we deff see what's taking place. We see what happens on the court. I saw tons of bad shots last night, and alot of bad defense yet Jokic is held accountable for it but other guys weren't? It's been like that all season with the entire roster outside of Jokic. Call out Jokic all he wants. You don't do it after his worst 2 game stretch in his first 2 months of being the guy so to speak. You don't do it in a game where the team failed to get him into scoring chances. You treat all the players the same. |
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Post by inyourmind on Feb 24, 2017 19:16:29 GMT -5
maybe even told him to stay away from the 3pt shot for a little while. Which would be dogshit coaching on any level lmao telling a guy who can hit a shot to stay away from it. Like 95% of Jokic's 3's are uncontested. You want him talking that shot. 3 point shooters can go on stretches of being like 2-18. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 19:19:34 GMT -5
maybe even told him to stay away from the 3pt shot for a little while. Which would be dogshit coaching on any level lmao telling a guy who can hit a shot to stay away from it. Like 95% of Jokic's 3's are uncontested. You want him talking that shot. 3 point shooters can go on stretches of being like 2-18. you are giving way to much thought into my fictive scenario |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 19:20:35 GMT -5
its painfully obvious that IYM actually believe he knows basketball better than Michael Malone and that if f***ing emberrasing
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Post by inyourmind on Feb 24, 2017 19:21:37 GMT -5
He's sucked for most of the season. He literally has played with the rotations to a hilarious degree. Got one guy to come out and ask for a trade, got Wilson Chandler to ask for a trade, had our future franchise player on the bench for the first chunk of the season, after his break out not only yanks him and doesn't get involved after his worst game of the season but throws him under the bus to the media? Malone called Jokic out to the media. The same Jokic who has no ego, who came to Malone and said he'd come off the bench earlier in the season instead of Malone actually making the right call himself. Same Jokic who outside of his defense his one knock would be confidence/aggressiveness. I just don't get why people feel the need to constantly defend Malone. i just dont get why you think all our youngsters are such pussies that cant handle some bench time or being called out to the media. if you can even call it that I mean Jokic after a rough start, playing out of position, getting limited minutes asked to come off the bench? List all the NBA players who gave up there starting spot? He's a team first guy. Not a "pussy". If he thinks him shooting or being aggressive is bad for the squad than he'll go away from it. He'll stand by and watch guys take awful shots. He clearly got annoyed last night. Last night vs the Kings he passed on a midrange J and could have went at Koufus a few times. That's on him, not Malone. It came after his worst game of the season vs the T-Wolves. It's on Malone to get him going, draw things up for him, and keep the foot on the pedal. Like tonight vs Brooklyn Malone should have Jokic getting fed and attacking from the tip off. Denver is going to have develop some of Jokic as the star for sure. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 24, 2017 19:23:22 GMT -5
You're incorrectly reading his post. He's not saying "the players I want him (Malone) to call out." He's wanting Malone to be consistent in how he leads and coaches the players. Not everyone clearly agrees with that style, but treating the people you lead with the same standards is a pretty basic concept in leadership theory. From a fan's glance at games and post-game interviews, it's easy to conclude Malone doesn't; however, as you've commented in other posts we don't know s**t about it for sure since we aren't in the know, on the team, behind closed doors, etc. Pretty much. All great coaches are one thing. Consistent. Malone has undeniable so been inconsistent from top to bottom this season. I mean Chandler told a reporter in his own words that. Where not in the lockeroom but we deff see what's taking place. We see what happens on the court. I saw tons of bad shots last night, and alot of bad defense yet Jokic is held accountable for it but other guys weren't? It's been like that all season with the entire roster outside of Jokic. Call out Jokic all he wants. You don't do it after his worst 2 game stretch in his first 2 months of being the guy so to speak. You don't do it in a game where the team failed to get him into scoring chances. You treat all the players the same. but you literally dont give him time holy s**t, do you expect the Nuggets to play like the Spurs? like seriously? Malone had the 2nd best offense in the league for almost two months, with two bad games now. Players were able to preform in his shitty rotation and system then. Consistency take time. But god damn, for your own good, lower your expectations |
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Post by inyourmind on Feb 24, 2017 19:23:42 GMT -5
its painfully obvious that IYM actually believe he knows basketball better than Michael Malone and that if f***ing emberrasing Hardly. Just my take. NBA coaches have messed up before. NBA GM's have messed up before. I'm sure if I was in there position I'd fall on my face within a week. Doesn't mean you can't see what there doing wrong. J.R Smith would eat my soul at basketball doesn't mean when he was taking fadeaway 3's I couldn't see it was a bad shot... Keep getting personal tho bro. Atleast guys like Lothar, Scooter, formulate great arguments when they disagree. |
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