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Post by jimijam28 on Nov 5, 2024 17:04:54 GMT -5
Massive turnout in Philadelphia, of course Trump is crying
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Post by famicommander on Nov 5, 2024 17:05:45 GMT -5
Just a quick reminder to ignore exit polls no matter who they say is winning. Exit polls were even more wrong than the regular polls in 2020 and 2022.
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Post by Ring on Nov 5, 2024 17:58:28 GMT -5
99.9% chance that Trump supporters say that this was a plant by the Democratic party to "steal" the election and make it look like Russia is trying to influence the election because they are working with the Democratic party to stop Trump. What âTrump supporters sayâ bares little to no resemblance to reality. Only one candidate speaks to Putin fairly often. Putin was found in a Senate committee bipartisan report in 2019/20 to have carried out operations to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. Our intelligence community found the same thing when Rosenstein handed out indictments to 12 Russian nationals (IIRC?) related to the Internet Research Agency among other operations in 2016. Of course, those Russians have remained in Russia and werenât extradited. In any event, nothing Trump supporters say should register with anyone else. They have no credibility. My point is that theyâre going to make excuses and there is going to be a ton of violence and maybe even another January 6th moment. You are not dealing with normal people. |
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 18:47:26 GMT -5
Hamilton County, Indiana is showing big decline for Trump versus 2020 and 2016. Canary in coal mine for rust belt battleground states? Very interesting stuff from Steve Kornacki! County is a northern suburb of Indianapolis. 60% of vote in has Harris with one point lead, a county Trump won decisively in 2020 and even more easily in 2016. Very promising datapoint for Kamala!
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 19:07:00 GMT -5
Oseola County, FloridaâŚ.71% in, has opposite trend, Trump doing much better there than in 2020 or 2016. Notable since 1/3 of voters are of Puerto Rican decent.
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Post by TNF on Nov 5, 2024 19:28:56 GMT -5
Early numbers are not looking good for the good guys. This is ugly so far. Our country is fucked.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Nov 5, 2024 19:30:06 GMT -5
Early numbers are not looking good for the good guys. This is ugly so far. Our country is fucked. It was never going to look good early, just based on what votes get counted first in a lot of places. |
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Post by jimijam28 on Nov 5, 2024 19:30:44 GMT -5
calm down- FL is f**k up-
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 19:34:16 GMT -5
Miami Dade 80% in, Trump by 11. It was Biden by 7 in 2020. Not good.
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Post by jimijam28 on Nov 5, 2024 19:37:26 GMT -5
didnt care about FL- never was going to win that -
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 19:44:26 GMT -5
My gut doesnât feel as good as an hour ago. Besides eating my dinner too fast, the reason is that more counties that can be looked at as canaries in the coal mine look to be trending toward Trump than away from him. But itâs still quite early.
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 20:08:33 GMT -5
Ten completed Georgia red rural counties have ALL gone up for Trump (10 for 10) versus 2020, by 1 to 3 points.
Trump country appears to be even moreso, question is if Blue counties have become more blue (Atlanta area mainly).
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Post by jimijam28 on Nov 5, 2024 20:17:15 GMT -5
its going to come down too MI ,WI ,PA
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Post by Ring on Nov 5, 2024 20:19:49 GMT -5
its going to come down too MI ,WI ,PA This was pretty much always how I saw it as well. If Trump gets PA he wins. If Trump doesn't he loses (I assumed/still think she wins Michigan/Wisconsin) |
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 20:23:12 GMT -5
Only thing that I think based on early states is that a landslide for Harris (330+ EVs) seems out the window. Trump areas havenât budged and, if anything, are more strongly for Trump than 2020.
Letâs hope this is because Harris campaign focused money heavily on 7 swing states, and gave up on Trump areas.
But this will be a squeaker if Harris does it.
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Post by Ring on Nov 5, 2024 20:26:00 GMT -5
Only thing that I think based on early states is that a landslide for Harris (330+ EVs) seems out the window. Trump areas havenât budged and, if anything, are more strongly for Trump than 2020. Letâs hope this is because Harris campaign focused money heavily on 7 swing states, and gave up on Trump areas. But this will be a squeaker if Harris does it. It was always going to be a close election which is why I kept going after Fami for constantly saying that Harris was going to win easily. There was no realistic path to that. If there was going to be a blowout on one side it was always more likely to be Trump because of the perception of the US economy and the fact that there are many people in the US who donât trust a woman to run the country. We saw this exact same thing in 2016 albeit with a worse candidate |
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Post by TNF on Nov 5, 2024 20:38:02 GMT -5
I'd love to be optimistic, but humanity is hosed. It was a nice run.
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Post by jimijam28 on Nov 5, 2024 20:41:17 GMT -5
other than FL so far she doing fine
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 20:43:09 GMT -5
other than FL so far she doing fine Except for those Georgia red counties, which are even redder now. Atlanta needs to come through big time. |
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Post by GBG on Nov 5, 2024 20:47:46 GMT -5
Adolph Shitler is ready to start building his crematoriums and gas chambers. Stupid, stupid, stupid men voluntarily asked for this. Women will once again be his victims. The voters actually asked to die. Enjoy it. We might have to go through a fascist phase in America in order for people to learn it is no answer, and highly destructive. Can America rebound from this? And what will be the extent of the damage in the meantime? Those are the questions IF Trump wins. The night is still young, and it still comes down to the seven states, |
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