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Post by game on Oct 30, 2024 15:01:03 GMT -5
Add to it that they're quite open now that Trump economic policy will raise costs pretty immediately, but trust us long term it'll be good for you, dear blue collar worker. Narrator: it won't. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 30, 2024 15:10:24 GMT -5
Add to it that they're quite open now that Trump economic policy will raise costs pretty immediately, but trust us long term it'll be good for you, dear blue collar worker. Narrator: it won't. This is similar to what happened in 2016. Prices went down immediately (tax cuts, pressure on the fed to lower interest rates, etc) but long term they would f**k us. At least this time costs will be raised immediately so there's no facade. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 30, 2024 15:13:40 GMT -5
I just don't want to hear athletes/celebrities talk about politics because they are rich and don't face the same problems that most Americans do. It's a major turn off (for me at least) Condemning Nazis should not even be considered political. It should always be the default state of affairs. Stop allowing them to reframe basic issues of human rights as things that should be up for political debate. The country is not going to turn into Nazi Germany when Trump wins next Tuesday. We have a house and senate for a reason. Same with checks/balances. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 30, 2024 15:25:07 GMT -5
Condemning Nazis should not even be considered political. It should always be the default state of affairs. Stop allowing them to reframe basic issues of human rights as things that should be up for political debate. The country is not going to turn into Nazi Germany when Trump wins next Tuesday. We have a house and senate for a reason. Same with checks/balances. You'd be on one of the trains to a camp saying this same s**t if you were around in Nazi Germany. Utter denial. |
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Post by GBG on Oct 30, 2024 15:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by Ring on Oct 30, 2024 15:44:54 GMT -5
The country is not going to turn into Nazi Germany when Trump wins next Tuesday. We have a house and senate for a reason. Same with checks/balances. You'd be on one of the trains to a camp saying this same s**t if you were around in Nazi Germany. Utter denial. It's just crazy to me that Trump wasn't running concentration camps in 2016. You do realize he ran the country in 2016-2020, correct? Call the guy a Fascist. Calling him a Nazi is offensive to Jewish people and those who lived through the Holocaust. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 30, 2024 15:46:49 GMT -5
Not going to read through all of those scenarios as some of them are ridiculous, fear mongering, etc. But handing the abortion law to the states is sickening. Just completely ridiculously unfair. It's 2024 and we are literally preventing women from having basic human rights lmao. I don't like abortion, would never want my partner to do it but to just completely f**k over women based off of where they live is just so so so gross. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 30, 2024 15:49:19 GMT -5
Alright, I'm done with the political talk for the day. I hate talking politics but some of the stuff from both sides just bothers me so much that I can't refrain from commenting lol. Go Nuggets
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Post by famicommander on Oct 30, 2024 16:00:47 GMT -5
You'd be on one of the trains to a camp saying this same s**t if you were around in Nazi Germany. Utter denial. It's just crazy to me that Trump wasn't running concentration camps in 2016. You do realize he ran the country in 2016-2020, correct? Call the guy a Fascist. Calling him a Nazi is offensive to Jewish people and those who lived through the Holocaust. It was a different situation. Now he has the Supreme Court rubber stamping everything he wants and he no longer has to worry about reelection. He wasn't openly running on a platform of turning the military against Americans in 2016. I'm convinced he didn't even think he would win last time until it actually happened. Now the groundwork is in place. We know what he plans to do with Project 2025, the Insurrection Act, the Alien Enemies Act, etc. He is openly telling you his agenda. Believe him. |
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Post by GBG on Oct 30, 2024 16:09:58 GMT -5
It's just crazy to me that Trump wasn't running concentration camps in 2016. You do realize he ran the country in 2016-2020, correct? Call the guy a Fascist. Calling him a Nazi is offensive to Jewish people and those who lived through the Holocaust. It was a different situation. Now he has the Supreme Court rubber stamping everything he wants and he no longer has to worry about reelection. He wasn't openly running on a platform of turning the military against Americans in 2016. I'm convinced he didn't even think he would win last time until it actually happened. Now the groundwork is in place. We know what he plans to do with Project 2025, the Insurrection Act, the Alien Enemies Act, etc. He is openly telling you his agenda. Believe him. Also, the difference now versus 2016 is that he will have no guardrails in his administration. He and his P25 allies have figured out what he did wrong the first time, which restrained his worst impulses. No more Kelly, Mattis, McMasters, or Milley. Or Esper. They will be replaced by Rick Grennel, Michael Flynn. Etc. Hitler didn’t start out with concentration camps in 1933. The final solution wasn’t agreed to until 1943. Now I’m Jewish, and hesitate to brand Trump a Nazi, but that’s where he’s trending. I also think some of our institutions will hold, and we won’t end up with death camps. But terrible things by 21st century western standards could be the end result of Trumpism’s slippery slope. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 30, 2024 16:20:16 GMT -5
The last time the Aliens Enemies Act was invoked it was used to put Japanese Americans into concentration camps. Even if they weren't death camps it was still horrific.
How do you think he plans to carry out the largest mass deportation in history on day one? Where is he going to put those people?
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Post by GBG on Oct 30, 2024 16:23:02 GMT -5
The last time the Aliens Enemies Act was invoked it was used to put Japanese Americans into concentration camps. Even if they weren't death camps it was still horrific. How do you think he plans to carry out the largest mass deportation in history on day one? Where is he going to put those people? It is a terrifying thought, even if not death camps. I’d rather not find out. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 30, 2024 16:30:56 GMT -5
The last time the Aliens Enemies Act was invoked it was used to put Japanese Americans into concentration camps. Even if they weren't death camps it was still horrific. How do you think he plans to carry out the largest mass deportation in history on day one? Where is he going to put those people? It is a terrifying thought, even if not death camps. I’d rather not find out. He didn't just pull that specific law out of thin air. He picked the one that led to concentration camps on purpose. |
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Post by GBG on Oct 30, 2024 16:46:00 GMT -5
It is a terrifying thought, even if not death camps. I’d rather not find out. He didn't just pull that specific law out of thin air. He picked the one that led to concentration camps on purpose. Honestly, Trump had never heard of that law because he’s profoundly ignorant and doesn’t read. One of his advisors came up with it. He has some truly evil people in his orbit. |
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Post by pie on Oct 30, 2024 16:57:25 GMT -5
Kamala is down -9 with Latinos
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Post by game on Oct 30, 2024 17:14:27 GMT -5
The Trump didn't do any of this last time argument has definitely helped fend off a lot of fair criticism and concern for what he says - "yeah he says wild s**t but he doesn't mean it - he didn't do it last time".
The issue is anybody who was willing to hold him accountable on extremely basic ass s**t is gone. And wants nothing to do with him, or even will endorse a Democrat they agree with on zero policy. Literally 4-8 years ago these folks signed up to be in Trump's crew. Wild ass s**t he said and all. They were in anyway. And now they're like "fuuuuuuuuuck that guy". They've said other stuff too - "he wanted to unleash the military on protesters", "he wanted military parades like North Korea", "he admired dictators" or "he wanted generals like Hitler had". Now Trump himself even says his biggest mistake were bringing in these people into his administration and he needs loyalty this time around.
I genuinely don't think any of the pushback he got from his own team or the Republican party in general will happen this time, because any Rs who dared to question him were basically exiled from the House or Senate, and won't be in his administration. The Supreme Court is his court from day one. They've already given major leniency on what he can do without consequences.
I think there are lots of reasons to assume he'll do what he wants this time.
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Post by game on Oct 30, 2024 17:23:10 GMT -5
Kamala is down -9 with Latinos Either you're being purposely misleading or don't understand the statistics they lay out in the first 7 seconds of the video. At least this was from the Wall Street Journal, who leans right, but is a legitimate news source with legitimate vetting and process for information. And if they mess up, legitimate processes to retract or investigate. Some of the other s**t you post is absolutely wild. You're a youtube mark, brother. They're feeding you a steady diet of what you want to hear from people with zero credentials to be somebody you trust for give your news. Vote for whoever you want. Just get your news from real places rather than people telling you what they heard the news is and how you should feel about that. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 30, 2024 17:24:11 GMT -5
Kamala is down -9 with Latinos Either you're being purposely misleading or don't understand the statistics they lay out in the first 7 seconds of the video. It's both. |
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Post by game on Oct 30, 2024 17:50:48 GMT -5
Last thing I'll say on politics: PSA for anybody on women's/reproductive health. If you haven't lived through it directly or have friends or family who have, you genuinely may not know. And that's not your fault.
"Abortion" as it typically gets characterized is the tip of the f***ing iceberg on what all is rolled up into this issue, and what is put at risk. If you miscarry (a lot lot lot lot more common than somebody deciding to terminate a viable pregnancy), there are a lot of risks and medical options that all live in this f***ing world of politicians asking the doctor, "mind if I take a peek?".
The excruciating ass medication you take to help move a completely nonviable pregnancy through your system is what they so callously call "the abortion pill".
Or when you miscarry, you can get a procedure to ensure everything is out of your system and severe complications are avoided. Also medically an abortion.
Hey why don't we just ban them after a period of time! Great - certain states have tried 6 or 8 weeks, when you probably don't know your pregnant or are not even close to out of the highest risk period for miscarriage. What if you have a severe complication at 25 weeks? This is absolute high risk to the mother stuff, and here comes Mitch McConnell to tell you tough s**t.
To say nothing of fertility treatments and what not that got banned in Alabama for a period of time and congressional republicans has been unwilling to vote to protect for some reason even though in election season they're all for it.
And then yes, your classic excruciating decision to end a pregnancy for whatever that person's reason is. Why the f**k is it the government's business? Why is that not a personal decision? And why don't men recuse themselves outright from this given they have no personal health stakes?
What about classic boogeyman late term abortions? You know, where the woman goes through massive physical and emotional changes that come with a pregnancy - all the sickness, hormones, gains a massive amount of weight, back issues, can't sleep at night, pisses every six seconds, doctor's appts- goes through absolutely all of that hell maybe with a partner and maybe completely alone - and then makes the decision to not proceed. That basically doesn't happen statistically because read above all the stuff they signed up for and went through, and where it does happen, there's probably significant information that's nobody's f***ing business but hers as to why they're doing what they're doing. It's not a real issue. Citing a case here or there and not bothering to understand the story is f***ing trash.
Now on the idea states can decide - why would public health, and arguably the most important public health issue to our civilization - be state to state? States don't get to decide who they admit or care for on anything other f***ing issue. And it's great that a state like Colorado hasn't restricted access. But they're very much open to federal regulation. That's not remotely set in stone.
End rant. Women don't deserve this s**t.
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Post by GBG on Oct 30, 2024 18:40:10 GMT -5
Kamala is down -9 with Latinos I’m sure you’re not aware that Trump’s MSG hatefest alienated major parts of the Latino population, to the point that it would affect his poll numbers, which are not reflected in the WSJ video. You also are deceptive in saying Kamala is -9. She is ahead of Trump with Latino voters, and that was before the Puerto Rico insults flew. She likely gets the same share of this demographic as Biden got. What is your age and education level? I’m curious, even though it’s none of my business. You post as if you’re still in high school. |
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