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Post by famicommander on Oct 30, 2024 19:54:16 GMT -5
Last thing I'll say on politics: PSA for anybody on women's/reproductive health. If you haven't lived through it directly or have friends or family who have, you genuinely may not know. And that's not your fault. "Abortion" as it typically gets characterized is the tip of the f***ing iceberg on what all is rolled up into this issue, and what is put at risk. If you miscarry (a lot lot lot lot more common than somebody deciding to terminate a viable pregnancy), there are a lot of risks and medical options that all live in this f***ing world of politicians asking the doctor, "mind if I take a peek?". The excruciating ass medication you take to help move a completely nonviable pregnancy through your system is what they so callously call "the abortion pill". Or when you miscarry, you can get a procedure to ensure everything is out of your system and severe complications are avoided. Also medically an abortion. Hey why don't we just ban them after a period of time! Great - certain states have tried 6 or 8 weeks, when you probably don't know your pregnant or are not even close to out of the highest risk period for miscarriage. What if you have a severe complication at 25 weeks? This is absolute high risk to the mother stuff, and here comes Mitch McConnell to tell you tough s**t. To say nothing of fertility treatments and what not that got banned in Alabama for a period of time and congressional republicans has been unwilling to vote to protect for some reason even though in election season they're all for it. And then yes, your classic excruciating decision to end a pregnancy for whatever that person's reason is. Why the f**k is it the government's business? Why is that not a personal decision? And why don't men recuse themselves outright from this given they have no personal health stakes? What about classic boogeyman late term abortions? You know, where the woman goes through massive physical and emotional changes that come with a pregnancy - all the sickness, hormones, gains a massive amount of weight, back issues, can't sleep at night, pisses every six seconds, doctor's appts- goes through absolutely all of that hell maybe with a partner and maybe completely alone - and then makes the decision to not proceed. That basically doesn't happen statistically because read above all the stuff they signed up for and went through, and where it does happen, there's probably significant information that's nobody's f***ing business but hers as to why they're doing what they're doing. It's not a real issue. Citing a case here or there and not bothering to understand the story is f***ing trash. Now on the idea states can decide - why would public health, and arguably the most important public health issue to our civilization - be state to state? States don't get to decide who they admit or care for on anything other f***ing issue. And it's great that a state like Colorado hasn't restricted access. But they're very much open to federal regulation. That's not remotely set in stone. End rant. Women don't deserve this s**t. The people who support him hate women. They want women to suffer. Pointing out that his policies are harmful to women is basically a campaign ad for him.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 31, 2024 1:00:57 GMT -5
Bill Clinton in Michigan doing his absolute best to remind everyone he loves genocide and you should, too.
Why on earth do the Democrats still parade the Clintons around? Bill is a disgusting old fool for innumerable reasons and nobody, at any point in time, has ever liked Hillary Clinton (not even Bill). You won't hear me praise Dubya for much but at least he had the sense to f**k off and go away after he was done being a war criminal.
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Post by duh88 on Oct 31, 2024 5:22:27 GMT -5
Voted straight-ticket red, all the way down to city council today. The R's are having a major shift. Uniparty (Romney, McCain, Cheney) has been banished from the GOP. This is no longer a party beholden to defense and pharmaceutical companies. Honestly - never been more proud to vote Republican than now. No party is perfect, but this is a renaissance period for the GOP. Here is a new avatar for you in your support of the modern day GOP. Fami, Jimi, and Camby all putting a swatiska up to describe me. I love that I'm one of the few "minorities" (with brown skin) in this forum, and yet whitties in here call me a "nazi." White libs telling minorities what their "place" is in society is basically the epitome of why the Democratic Party (and its white liberal support) is terribly out of touch. Never change, white liberals. Never change. Ya'll are badly out of touch.
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Post by duh88 on Oct 31, 2024 5:26:11 GMT -5
Bill Clinton in Michigan doing his absolute best to remind everyone he loves genocide and you should, too. Why on earth do the Democrats still parade the Clintons around? Bill is a disgusting old fool for innumerable reasons and nobody, at any point in time, has ever liked Hillary Clinton (not even Bill). You won't hear me praise Dubya for much but at least he had the sense to f**k off and go away after he was done being a war criminal. I think hell just froze over, at least for me. I'll leave it at that.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 6:57:21 GMT -5
these frivolous back and forths serve serve nothing except to clutter this thread and waste everyone's time. Like any of this isnt a waste of time
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 6:57:48 GMT -5
I know, we've been over this before. you're a "anarcho-capitalist" that just acts a hysterical cancel-culture obsessed liberal on the internet. JB I know we can't come to an agreement about Jamal Murray but I'm giving you a standing ovation at my desk right now for this post. Same!
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Post by GBG on Oct 31, 2024 8:55:24 GMT -5
It was Dean Obeidalllah, the Muslim attorney and progressive Sirius XM radio talk show host, who said today’s GOP under Trump amounts to a White Power movement. And he explained that nonwhites who are part of the party are simply there out of selfishness in getting in on some of that white power and all its benefits they perceive. Famous Trumpist nonwhite pols and celebs are lavished with benefits from party members, as they show a sort of fake diversity of the movement for propaganda purposes.
I’m not saying any nonwhites here who support Trump are here due to selfishness or are bigoted themselves, because they most likely aren’t. But the general rule of thumb, according to Dean, is that nonwhite Trump supporters are not considering other nonwhites when part of the Trump cult. He says they are also often doing so based on a mistaken belief that Trumpism isn’t a white power or hate movement. I’m not quoting Dean word for word, but I heard him explain it on his show.
IMO, people join cults for various reasons, and should not be pigeon holed into a single reason as to why they do. But Trumpism is a form of political cult, as its most devoted supporters won’t quit, no matter the damning new facts that come out about Trump and his people later on. It’s unfortunate.
Again, I’m Jewish and hesitate to use the swastika. But there is something very fascist or authoritarian about Trump, as told by his generals and those who were closest to him last time. For anyone to deny that is to close off one’s mind to new or factual information.
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 31, 2024 9:16:23 GMT -5
Here is a new avatar for you in your support of the modern day GOP. Fami, Jimi, and Camby all putting a swatiska up to describe me. I love that I'm one of the few "minorities" (with brown skin) in this forum, and yet whitties in here call me a "nazi." White libs telling minorities what their "place" is in society is basically the epitome of why the Democratic Party (and its white liberal support) is terribly out of touch. Never change, white liberals. Never change. Ya'll are badly out of touch. I am Latino dumbass and I don't support racist rally .. spare me maga that your feelings get hurt when we call you out. Biden slips in his comments but shitpants can call America a trash can. Snowflakes maga,
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Post by GBG on Oct 31, 2024 9:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 31, 2024 9:57:03 GMT -5
I dislike both -but cenk is right on-
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Post by GBG on Oct 31, 2024 9:59:15 GMT -5
I dislike both -but cenk is right on- Cenk is annoying. And sometimes seems like he’s helping Trump, intentionally or not. Ana has annoyed many people recently by “leaving the left”.
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Post by JB on Oct 31, 2024 11:09:56 GMT -5
Joseph Robinette Biden has very selective dementia.
hopefully this doesn't negatively impact the election for Harris. if Kamala were to lose, let it be due the weakness of her campaign, not because some senile warmonger took one final revenge on his party for getting couped out of a second term.
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Post by Ring on Oct 31, 2024 11:29:23 GMT -5
Joseph Robinette Biden has very selective dementia. hopefully this doesn't negatively impact the election for Harris. if Kamala were to lose, let it be due the weakness of her campaign, not because some senile warmonger took one final revenge on his party for getting couped out of a second term. I am very curious as to whether Biden is doing it on purpose or not. I feel like he is but it's impossible to know.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 12:00:22 GMT -5
Fami, Jimi, and Camby all putting a swatiska up to describe me. I love that I'm one of the few "minorities" (with brown skin) in this forum, and yet whitties in here call me a "nazi." White libs telling minorities what their "place" is in society is basically the epitome of why the Democratic Party (and its white liberal support) is terribly out of touch. Never change, white liberals. Never change. Ya'll are badly out of touch. I am Latino dumbass and I don't support racist rally .. spare me maga that your feelings get hurt when we call you out. Biden slips in his comments but shitpants can call America a trash can. Snowflakes maga, Latino and Nazi isnt the best combination just saying. Maybe the people that lack sensitivity on the matter the most.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 31, 2024 12:13:08 GMT -5
Here is a new avatar for you in your support of the modern day GOP. Fami, Jimi, and Camby all putting a swatiska up to describe me. I love that I'm one of the few "minorities" (with brown skin) in this forum, and yet whitties in here call me a "nazi." White libs telling minorities what their "place" is in society is basically the epitome of why the Democratic Party (and its white liberal support) is terribly out of touch. Never change, white liberals. Never change. Ya'll are badly out of touch. People are calling you a Nazi because you are actively supporting Naziism. It's not complicated. The fact that you're a minority and a Nazi just means you're stupid too.
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Post by GBG on Oct 31, 2024 13:04:21 GMT -5
“Nazi” is just a label. I’m not here to insult people. Just want to explain to them how wrong and captured by the cult they are, IMHO.
The fascism is real, though. Evangelical Right gives Trump the power to rule. And I’ve used the term Christofascism to describe them. Trump isn’t religious. He believes in only one God, HIMSELF!
But he will try to invoke many of the worst elements of Project 2025, while his buddy Elon Musk tries to strip the government to shreds. His closing argument is that America’s economy needs to crash and the people need to go through hardship in order to gain longer term prosperity. Elon Musk is a dangerous NUT, and a fascist too.
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 31, 2024 13:04:45 GMT -5
I am Latino dumbass and I don't support racist rally .. spare me maga that your feelings get hurt when we call you out. Biden slips in his comments but shitpants can call America a trash can. Snowflakes maga, Latino and Nazi isnt the best combination just saying. Maybe the people that lack sensitivity on the matter the most. What your point? I call out that racist rally, and he thought I was a white dude.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 31, 2024 13:28:14 GMT -5
I'm not here to coddle Nazi morons who are causing real harm to the world with their own stupidity. Don't want to be called a Nazi? Stop supporting the guy who just held a giant Nazi rally. Simple as that.
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Post by GBG on Oct 31, 2024 13:40:48 GMT -5
I'm not here to coddle Nazi morons who are causing real harm to the world with their own stupidity. Don't want to be called a Nazi? Stop supporting the guy who just held a giant Nazi rally. Simple as that. I understand. The mindset of Trumpism is a slippery slope to human rights violations inside our own country, depending on how far they’d go in mass deportations. It’s a special brand of evil, potentially, whether one wants to label it Naziism or not. It’s UnAmerican. It’s beyond disgusting. Still, I try to use facts and logic in my posts, and to minimize the insults as they are based on emotions. Such emotions are understandable as I just said, but I try to use different argument techniques.
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 31, 2024 14:05:14 GMT -5
I'm not here to coddle Nazi morons who are causing real harm to the world with their own stupidity. Don't want to be called a Nazi? Stop supporting the guy who just held a giant Nazi rally. Simple as that. It's also simple don't bring Nazi flags in your boats parade in fl.
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