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Post by JB on Oct 13, 2024 12:15:47 GMT -5
Israel by no definition of the word is a democracy. in the words of the preeminent human rights organization B'Tselem, Israel is a Jewish supremacist state from the river to the sea. I promise you neither of us know more about the dynamic of Israeli society than they do. I'm old enough to remember Obama on his way out from abstaining from the United Nations Security Council resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. the figurative roof did not fall in on his head. the US allows the Zionist state to commit these heinous crimes against humanity because they don't oppose their ultimate aim: hegemony and imperialist dominance. I suppose it's kismet Steve Clemons released an episode on this very subject within the last 30 mins:
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Post by GBG on Oct 13, 2024 12:19:25 GMT -5
Gaza and the WB are separate from Israel the same way Kashmir is separate from India or the Western Sahara is separate from Morocco. Israel occupies their land, dominates their lives, deprives the population of any rights and subjects them to military rule. the fact Israel wants the want the land and not the people is irrelevant. any claims to democractic values is invalid until they 1. end the occupation 2. give Palestinians the same rights as ISraelis. But they’ll never be part of Israel except the WB is being stolen and annexed. Gaza proper was de-occupied by Israel around 2006, and became a self-governing city-state, in a sense, with Gaza City as its hub. Sadly for the people there, Hamas governed Gaza due to an election 18 years ago in which they got 45% of the vote. Hamas is evil. Instead of spending to improve the lives of its people, they built sophisticated tunnels and vowed to destroy Israel. You can’t possibly be for Hamas, can you? Palestinian people are NOT Hamas.
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Post by GBG on Oct 13, 2024 12:40:09 GMT -5
Israel by no definition of the word is a democracy. in the words of the preeminent human rights organization B'Tselem, Israel is a Jewish supremacist state from the river to the sea. I promise you neither of us know more about the dynamic of Israeli society than they do. I'm old enough to remember Obama on his way out from abstaining from the United Nations Security Council resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. the figurative roof did not fall in on his head. the US allows the Zionist state to commit these heinous crimes against humanity because they don't oppose their ultimate aim: hegemony and imperialist dominance. I suppose it's kismet Steve Clemons released an episode on this very subject within the last 30 mins: Thanks for posting, and I just watched it. Matt Duss is right, and at the end of the video expresses concern for the unpredictability of Trump and how things could change for the worse. And that’s my point. For as bad and ineffectual Biden has been during this war, Harris could be the same or maybe a bit tougher on Netanyahu, while Trump takes his cues from Miriam Adelson. Vote accordingly. And don’t be an unserious voter by throwing it away on Jill Stein. But I know you will. EDIT: Here’s another intelligent conversation about the subject on Al Franken’s podcast. David Rothkopf is a brilliant analyst on Israel and the Middle East. Sorry I don’t have the Android link, but here is the Apple link: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-al-franken-podcast/id1462195742?i=1000672855503
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Post by famicommander on Oct 14, 2024 13:54:37 GMT -5
First downs per pass attempt among all 556 quarterbacks who have attempted at least 100 passes in their first six team games since 2007 t-564. Bo Nix, this season 566. DeShaun Watson, this season
Bunch of delusional people clinging to his garbage time stats against a prevent defense in weeks 1, 2, and 6. Without those three teams intentionally trading us completions for time off the clock, our offense would be more inept than the worst stretch of the Tebow run.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 14, 2024 13:59:56 GMT -5
Filtering out garbage time:
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Post by TNF on Oct 14, 2024 17:51:36 GMT -5
Biden is a self-described Zionist that views Israel's hegemonic dominance over the entire Levant as the top national security priority that supersedes all other foreign and domestic concerns, even as their proxy state takes a bulldozer to US standing across the globe. Bernie would have stopped this madness by now. and even though I'm highly critical of him, I believe even Obama would have read the writing on the wall and put a end to Bibi Milekowsky violently remaking the Levant in his image. I was an honorary member of an AZA (American Zionist Association) chapter in high school. Any idea what we did and talked about every time we got together? Getting high.
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Post by JB on Oct 15, 2024 9:52:30 GMT -5
Gaza and the WB are separate from Israel the same way Kashmir is separate from India or the Western Sahara is separate from Morocco. Israel occupies their land, dominates their lives, deprives the population of any rights and subjects them to military rule. the fact Israel wants the want the land and not the people is irrelevant. any claims to democractic values is invalid until they 1. end the occupation 2. give Palestinians the same rights as ISraelis. But they’ll never be part of Israel except the WB is being stolen and annexed. Gaza proper was de-occupied by Israel around 2006, and became a self-governing city-state, in a sense, with Gaza City as its hub. Sadly for the people there, Hamas governed Gaza due to an election 18 years ago in which they got 45% of the vote. Hamas is evil. Instead of spending to improve the lives of its people, they built sophisticated tunnels and vowed to destroy Israel. You can’t possibly be for Hamas, can you? Palestinian people are NOT Hamas. I'm not "for Hamas", GBG. I'm not the state of Israel: theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/this "the Gaza Strip could've been Singapore but Khamas chose otherwise" is a canard repeated often by Israel supporters. the Gaza Strip was blockaded after those elections you cited. they did not control their borders. Israel strictly controlled imports and at one point counted the calories of each Gazan to keep them just above starvation level. their one airport was destroyed by Israel. they had no freedom of movement. they were subjected to regular high-tech killing sprees which Israel fascistically referred to as "mowing the lawn". now Israel is ripping the blades of grass out by the roots. Gaza more resembled a concentration camp than a "self-governing city-state". I hope it goes without saying that providing context and correcting the historical record is not "Khamas apologia". otherwise, you're just deploying another version of "you're against the Iraq War? you must be a Saddamist!".
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Post by JB on Oct 15, 2024 9:54:32 GMT -5
Biden is a self-described Zionist that views Israel's hegemonic dominance over the entire Levant as the top national security priority that supersedes all other foreign and domestic concerns, even as their proxy state takes a bulldozer to US standing across the globe. Bernie would have stopped this madness by now. and even though I'm highly critical of him, I believe even Obama would have read the writing on the wall and put a end to Bibi Milekowsky violently remaking the Levant in his image. I was an honorary member of an AZA (American Zionist Association) chapter in high school. Any idea what we did and talked about every time we got together? Getting high. this is what Zionism means to Joe Biden
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Post by GBG on Oct 15, 2024 13:13:32 GMT -5
JB, let’s get one thing clear and on the record. I am for the existence Israel, and I’m a secular Jew. Are you for the state of Israel? Are you for its right to exist? I wonder.
Zionism is a dirty word for some on the far left, the Marxist left which I think you are a part of. There are several flavors of Zionism. Judaism and Zionism are not monoliths. One early faction of Zionists were quite progressive, socialists actually. The other main faction evolved into what you see today. A fascistic war-thirsty state that has acted disproportionately to the horrors of October 7th. I say to my more conservative Jewish friends that what Israel is doing right now is not in Israel’s LONG TERM security interests, even if tactical victories in the short term feel right to them.
Israel is isolating itself on the world stage. Israel is committing genocide on innocent people caught in Gaza with nowhere to go. For every terrorist killed in Gaza, two more future terrorists are being created. Those orphaned kids will grow up radicalized to hate Israel. The state of Israel was established by the UN in the aftermath of the Holocaust. That’s why it’s so ironic that Israel today behaves like the Nazis that wanted to wipe Jews off the earth. Too many Israeli Jews don’t think Palestinians are fully human beings. Thomas Friedman coined the term for them: Jewish Supremacists. Jewish Supremacists, like their White Supremacist brothers in the U.S., are almost 100% for Trump.
Nuance and appreciation of the complexity of Israel and Zionism is important. There is no simple fix. A two state solution is ideal, but we are nowhere near it. Having moderate and knowledgeable people in charge of foreign policy could inch us closer to that day, but it requires moderate thinkers in Washington and Israel. Only one candidate offers that hope.
What Biden said in 1986 was par for the course for any conventional mainstream senator of that era. Why do you single him out, JB? He won’t be president past January. Harris will separate herself when she is president and not a moment before. One president at a time.
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Post by GBG on Oct 15, 2024 13:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by JB on Oct 15, 2024 14:28:57 GMT -5
JB, let’s get one thing clear and on the record. I am for the existence Israel, and I’m a secular Jew. Are you for the state of Israel? Are you for its right to exist? I wonder. Zionism is a dirty word for some on the far left, the Marxist left which I think you are a part of. There are several flavors of Zionism. Judaism and Zionism are not monoliths. One early faction of Zionists were quite progressive, socialists actually. The other main faction evolved into what you see today. A fascistic war-thirsty state that has acted disproportionately to the horrors of October 7th. I say to my more conservative Jewish friends that what Israel is doing right now is not in Israel’s LONG TERM security interests, even if tactical victories in the short term feel right to them. Israel is isolating itself on the world stage. Israel is committing genocide on innocent people caught in Gaza with nowhere to go. For every terrorist killed in Gaza, two more future terrorists are being created. Those orphaned kids will grow up radicalized to hate Israel. The state of Israel was established by the UN in the aftermath of the Holocaust. That’s why it’s so ironic that Israel today behaves like the Nazis that wanted to wipe Jews off the earth. Too many Israeli Jews don’t think Palestinians are fully human beings. Thomas Friedman coined the term for them: Jewish Supremacists. Jewish Supremacists, like their White Supremacist brothers in the U.S., are almost 100% for Trump. Nuance and appreciation of the complexity of Israel and Zionism is important. There is no simple fix. A two state solution is ideal, but we are nowhere near it. Having moderate and knowledgeable people in charge of foreign policy could inch us closer to that day, but it requires moderate thinkers in Washington and Israel. Only one candidate offers that hope. What Biden said in 1986 was par for the course for any conventional mainstream senator of that era. Why do you single him out, JB? He won’t be president past January. Harris will separate herself when she is president and not a moment before. One president at a time. I don't believe in ethnocracies. I don't believe in apartheid. I don't believe in one people imposing their dominance on another people via occupation. Israel is on the extreme Kahanist trajectory it's on because they have enjoyed complete impunity and protection from the Western countries for 76 years, which includes an endless supply of arms to commit every war crime imaginable. why would they moderate their position when the West gives them ZERO incentive to do so? once the era of impunity ends and Israel is treated like every other country in the UN, there will be a just end to the conflict similar to apartheid South Africa.
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Post by JB on Oct 15, 2024 14:49:25 GMT -5
oh wow, the humanity. I think I'm going to cry. rather than aggressively beg Bibi Milekowsky to end his genocidal starvation campaign, he could simply instruct his proxy state to accept a ceasefire in 30 days, just like he instructed his proxy state not to hit Iran's nuclear or oil facilities. but Biden doesn't want the genocide to end, he just doesn't want starving Palestinian children on voters timelines. it's bad "messaging".
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Oct 15, 2024 17:36:29 GMT -5
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Oct 15, 2024 17:53:16 GMT -5
so some notes -- he retired after the championship his son was mascot for 21-22 but then had health problems so he came back his other son is the current mascot for the Pistons talks about how much he had to lift and work out and run marathons just to be able to do the mascot work story of "hanging rocky" - he'd had to put a jacket on to deliver the game ball, and then he forgot to slightly unzip it and it cut off his air supply when the harness went into tension he actually broke his back once during a game, and they put him on "injured reserve" all-time favorite off-court Nuggets players in terms of just being good people: Dikembe, Phonz, Chauncey, Nikola ("have you met my parents?"), Jamal he has his own podcast ("Between The Fur") that's mascots from multiple leagues
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Post by duh88 on Oct 16, 2024 5:11:12 GMT -5
All the actual results so far (early local elections, ballot return tracking by party, new voter registrations) indicate that we're looking more like 2022 for polling errors versus 2020 or 2016. If we get 2022 polling errors this year, Harris wins in a landslide. Probably winning every state Biden did plus NC. If we get 2020 polling errors this year, Harris likely squeaks out a narrow win. If we get 2018 polling errors this year, Trump likely squeaks out a narrow win. If we get 2016 polling errors this year, Trump wins comfortably. By more than he beat Clinton. That’s valid. Take a look at this analysis of early voting, albeit from a biased writer. Dem voting in swing states seems to be up strongly… www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/12/2275958/-State-of-the-Race-Here-s-your-first-look-at-the-early-vote?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_6&pm_medium=webDaily Kos and Target Smart are painting a very rosy picture that is not true. Yes - Dems are ahead of R's in early voting, in terms of party participation percentage. But the problem is: The Dems have collapsed on total early votes. Mail-in ballot requests in the battleground states are basically down by 50% in comparison to 2020 -- and early voting isn't making up the margins (which is why the Biden admin just sued Glenn Youngkin in Virginia to get all the undocumented immigrant voter registrations, that were purged, back on the rolls). In the modern election era, Democrats have always showcased much higher voting numbers in the early game (early voting, mail-in ballots, etc). Republicans OWN election-day voting, on the other hand. In comparison to 2020, Democrat ballot requests, as well as total Dem votes at this time (compared to 2020) have completely collapsed.
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Post by duh88 on Oct 16, 2024 5:12:19 GMT -5
Harris has received a lot of support from newly registered voters and those people will be the hardest to account for in polls. ...except that Republicans have outpaced Democrats in new voter registration, in basically every state since 2022 (Colorado may honestly be the only exception to this).
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Post by TNF on Oct 16, 2024 7:36:55 GMT -5
Your boy is losing it. Love his Town Hall. Starts around 4:00
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Post by pie on Oct 16, 2024 8:25:59 GMT -5
The fact that Kamala is going on an interview spree, while begging for another debate -- shows she and her campaign know they are losing to Trump!
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Post by pie on Oct 16, 2024 8:30:09 GMT -5
Trump 322 Harris 216
Trump landslide victory!
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 16, 2024 9:31:09 GMT -5
Lol
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