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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 10, 2024 6:00:49 GMT -5
Nobody is celebrating Dick/Liz- harris campaign didnt beg them unlike trump did with RFK. They are voting for her because they want to save our Democracy and not because of her policy.. as for giving 20 billion , we been giving Israel aid/support since 1948 (wrong or right) trump never stop the aid. We already know trump kill the border bill and I would not be shock if he call Netanyahu too stop any ceasefire deal. he dont give a s**t about peace -he wants his dictators to win. Its wrong š
But yeah no way Trump would make any real difference. Why would Israel even let him
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 10, 2024 6:04:49 GMT -5
Nobody is celebrating Dick/Liz- harris campaign didnt beg them unlike trump did with RFK. They are voting for her because they want to save our Democracy and not because of her policy.. as for giving 20 billion , we been giving Israel aid/support since 1948 (wrong or right) trump never stop the aid. We already know trump kill the border bill and I would not be shock if he call Netanyahu too stop any ceasefire deal. he dont give a s**t about peace -he wants his dictators to win. Kamala is running a unity campaign. She has said she will be POTUS for ALL Americans, that she is all about lifting people up, not tearing them down. There is only one president at a time so Kamala canāt second guess Biden or Blinken. Far rightists want to say in the same breath that Harris is a Communist, wild eyed leftist who wants to send Netanyahu $20 billion with no conditions. That is incoherent. Makes zero sense. If sheās on the far left, she will be aligned with the pro-Palestinian protesters. And I wouldnāt complain about that. But sheās a centrist, unifying politician. She is being called āevilā due to guilt by endorsement. Not even guilt by association, a common practice of McCarthyism. Now all that is required is that someone endorse your campaign, and you automatically agree down the line on the endorserās past evil policies. The irony here? Most of those throwing around the term āevilā with regard to Harris are the same reactionaries who supported the Bush/Cheney war of choice in Iraq. They donāt want you remembering that they were for Cheney, renditions, water boarding, and Shock and Awe. Now they pretend Harris has blood on her hands because sheās Bidenās loyal VP and canāt do anything right now to stop the wars. Give me a break. some people evolve. If they were programmed well enough to support Bush/Chaney that doesnt disqualify them from evolving
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Post by GBG on Sept 10, 2024 8:23:34 GMT -5
People can twist words all they want, even call Kamala supporters clowns, say they are supporting evil, or getting played. It doesnāt change the fact that a President Trump would do nothing to reduce the slaughter of Palestinians. He would do the exact same thing as Biden, giving the $20 billion in weapons to Israel (and probably more). He has expressed unwavering support for Netanyahu and even had him over to Mar A Lago recently. He has never said a word about the unacceptable killings of tens of thousands of Palestinian innocents, or developed a plan for a ceasefire and end to war, or pushed for the need for a two state solution. Nope, Trump would let the fascist Netanyahu coalition have its way because Trump is a fascist too. Miriam Adelson has his ear, as does Bibi.
Reminder: Listen to the Steve Schmidt video I linked last night, especially the last part.
JB, at least you donāt support Trump, Iāll give you that. But others here do, and need to see facts as I just laid out above.
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 10, 2024 10:33:26 GMT -5
Did you hear that, JB??? Murdering Palestinians is now a "UNIFYING" platform! Love you all, but you Kamala supporters are clowns (and you're getting play-ed). No, DEMOCRACY is the platform we agree with... nobody wants a dictatorship.
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Post by GBG on Sept 10, 2024 15:41:04 GMT -5
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 10, 2024 21:27:15 GMT -5
HARRIS KICKING ASS-
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Post by GBG on Sept 10, 2024 21:41:32 GMT -5
Trump the crazy uncle came to the stage tonight. What a nut!
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Post by duh88 on Sept 11, 2024 0:05:58 GMT -5
Trump telling Kamala that she went to Ukraine, met with Zelensky and Putin - and then war broke out three days later. Mark it down - That will be the biggest soundbite to come out of this. That wasn't a victory for Kamala.
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Post by famicommander on Sept 11, 2024 0:54:49 GMT -5
Trump telling Kamala that she went to Ukraine, met with Zelensky and Putin - and then war broke out three days later. Mark it down - That will be the biggest soundbite to come out of this. That wasn't a victory for Kamala. CNN poll using the same methodology as last time says Trump lost this one by the same margin Biden lost the one that tanked his candidacy out of the race.
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Post by GBG on Sept 11, 2024 1:10:40 GMT -5
To Trump supporters here and anywhere, here is my hope:
Regain your self-respect, for Godās sake, and jump off the Trump train. Fast.
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Post by duh88 on Sept 11, 2024 2:57:13 GMT -5
Trump telling Kamala that she went to Ukraine, met with Zelensky and Putin - and then war broke out three days later. Mark it down - That will be the biggest soundbite to come out of this. That wasn't a victory for Kamala. CNN poll using the same methodology as last time says Trump lost this one by the same margin Biden lost the one that tanked his candidacy out of the race. Trump vs Hilary was also 67 to 32 on the "CNN" push poll after the first debate in 2016. We know how that movie ended.
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Post by pie on Sept 11, 2024 6:30:16 GMT -5
To Trump supporters here and anywhere, here is my hope: Regain your self-respect, for Godās sake, and jump off the Trump train. Fast. Nope. As always the liberal media were against Trump, the debate was 3 against 1. I wouldn't be surprised if ABC gave Kamala the debate questions beforehand. A very biased debate doesn't change my opinion on who is the better candidate for President. Kamala wouldn't even be qualified to be Mayor of San Francisco (a failed city), let alone President of the U.S. Trump 2024!
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Post by scooter on Sept 11, 2024 12:07:08 GMT -5
Harris is a conventional, intelligent, respectable US government official. Nobody here is claiming sheās a savior. Sheās squarely in the mainstream middle of US Presidential candidates and US Presidents.
Trump is a lying, greedy, racist, misogynist jackass who admires world dictator thugs, doesnāt respect anything about the American political or legal system, encourages political violence, and who happily sacrifices anyone and anything ā including even the slightest notion of social cohesion and decency ā to advance his personal interests without any regard for the interests of others. It is difficult for me to understand those who support him when he doesnāt have the support or respect of the most senior people (who worked closely with whom and know him well) in his previous presidential administration ā his Vice President, his Chief of Staff, his Attorney General, his Defense Secretary, the National Security Advisor, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Defense Department. You think you know better than these lifelong Republicans who headed up the last Trump administration and donāt support him now?
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 11, 2024 13:22:26 GMT -5
Trump telling Kamala that she went to Ukraine, met with Zelensky and Putin - and then war broke out three days later. Mark it down - That will be the biggest soundbite to come out of this. That wasn't a victory for Kamala. that was bs just like the other 30 plus bs he told the biggest soundbite - was getting his ass facts check on the bs story abouts dogs/cats , his stupid abortion after birth, and also his healthcare āConcepts of a Planā after 8 yrs lol
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Post by duh88 on Sept 11, 2024 17:36:10 GMT -5
Harris is a conventional, intelligent, respectable US government official. Nobody here is claiming sheās a savior. Sheās squarely in the mainstream middle of US Presidential candidates and US Presidents. Trump is a lying, greedy, racist, misogynist jackass who admires world dictator thugs, doesnāt respect anything about the American political or legal system, encourages political violence, and who happily sacrifices anyone and anything ā including even the slightest notion of social cohesion and decency ā to advance his personal interests without any regard for the interests of others. It is difficult for me to understand those who support him when he doesnāt have the support or respect of the most senior people (who worked closely with whom and know him well) in his previous presidential administration ā his Vice President, his Chief of Staff, his Attorney General, his Defense Secretary, the National Security Advisor, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Defense Department. You think you know better than these lifelong Republicans who headed up the last Trump administration and donāt support him now? The thing all of those former cabinet officials (who are trashing Trump) all have in common is that they all want forever wars. This is my point - Dick Cheney is literally endorsing this woman because he wants billions to continue to be shipped out for war. Don't you guys get this???
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 11, 2024 17:44:47 GMT -5
And when did Harris say she would spend billions on wars because she got dick support , he said he voting to save our democracy not policy, that's what we have/only in common. It's time too put grandpa trump too rest ,
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Post by famicommander on Sept 11, 2024 20:09:37 GMT -5
Harris is a conventional, intelligent, respectable US government official. Nobody here is claiming sheās a savior. Sheās squarely in the mainstream middle of US Presidential candidates and US Presidents. Trump is a lying, greedy, racist, misogynist jackass who admires world dictator thugs, doesnāt respect anything about the American political or legal system, encourages political violence, and who happily sacrifices anyone and anything ā including even the slightest notion of social cohesion and decency ā to advance his personal interests without any regard for the interests of others. It is difficult for me to understand those who support him when he doesnāt have the support or respect of the most senior people (who worked closely with whom and know him well) in his previous presidential administration ā his Vice President, his Chief of Staff, his Attorney General, his Defense Secretary, the National Security Advisor, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Defense Department. You think you know better than these lifelong Republicans who headed up the last Trump administration and donāt support him now? The thing all of those former cabinet officials (who are trashing Trump) all have in common is that they all want forever wars. This is my point - Dick Cheney is literally endorsing this woman because he wants billions to continue to be shipped out for war. Don't you guys get this??? Why did Trump appoint these people in the first place if they wanted forever wars? What kind of idiot doesn't vet the foreign policy aspirations of people he appoints to his own cabinet? Why did he go out of his way to cheerlead Israel's nonsense while he was president if he doesn't want forever wars? Why did he move the embassy? Why is he best pals with Bibi? Why didn't he stop his best pal Putin from rolling the tanks into Ukraine? Why did he assassinate an Iranian official in Iraq if he doesn't want forever wars?
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 11, 2024 23:21:18 GMT -5
The thing all of those former cabinet officials (who are trashing Trump) all have in common is that they all want forever wars. This is my point - Dick Cheney is literally endorsing this woman because he wants billions to continue to be shipped out for war. Don't you guys get this??? Why did Trump appoint these people in the first place if they wanted forever wars? What kind of idiot doesn't vet the foreign policy aspirations of people he appoints to his own cabinet? Why did he go out of his way to cheerlead Israel's nonsense while he was president if he doesn't want forever wars? Why did he move the embassy? Why is he best pals with Bibi? Why didn't he stop his best pal Putin from rolling the tanks into Ukraine? Why did he assassinate an Iranian official in Iraq if he doesn't want forever wars? also forgot the Golan Heights- which was bs . il.usembassy.gov/proclamation-on-recognizing-the-golan-heights-as-part-of-the-state-of-israel/
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Post by GBG on Sept 11, 2024 23:42:49 GMT -5
The thing all of those former cabinet officials (who are trashing Trump) all have in common is that they all want forever wars. This is my point - Dick Cheney is literally endorsing this woman because he wants billions to continue to be shipped out for war. Don't you guys get this??? Why did Trump appoint these people in the first place if they wanted forever wars? What kind of idiot doesn't vet the foreign policy aspirations of people he appoints to his own cabinet? Why did he go out of his way to cheerlead Israel's nonsense while he was president if he doesn't want forever wars? Why did he move the embassy? Why is he best pals with Bibi? Why didn't he stop his best pal Putin from rolling the tanks into Ukraine? Why did he assassinate an Iranian official in Iraq if he doesn't want forever wars? The recasting of Trump as some sort of a āpeaceā candidate is astounding dishonesty or delusion from Trumpists. Iāll let Mehdi Hassan, one of the most vocal anti-Netanyahu journalists, set the record straightā¦ youtu.be/RNnjqsAbYoU?si=Vzk89JtvLyBdciI-And thereās moreā¦ www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/01/donald-trump-wanted-to-nuke-north-korea-and-blame-someone-elseforeignpolicy.com/2024/03/18/united-states-nuclear-weapons-president-deterrence-law/www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.htmlLately Trump, well known for his projection of himself on others, has warned we are close to WWIII, even saying so in the debate last night. Given that heās demented and likely insane, heās possibly telling us what HE would do if given the nuclear codes again. Trumpists with children who want them to grow up in a world free from nuclear holocaust ought to want a sane president because no sane president will start, intentionally or not, WWIII. Trump is not sane. Those supporting him are putting themselves and their kids at risk of nuclear annihilation.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 12, 2024 8:20:34 GMT -5
And when did Harris say she would spend billions on wars because she got dick support , he said he voting to save our democracy not policy, that's what we have/only in common. It's time too put grandpa trump too rest , Well we all know that this will happen Would under Trump too.
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