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Post by GBG on Sept 8, 2024 13:21:14 GMT -5
You’re concern trolling now. I think you are for Trump, secretly. Jimmy Dore is for Trump, and you likely eat up his videos. We haven’t even had the debates yet, and not even into October. This has a long way to go, and I still think Harris will pull away and win.
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Post by JB on Sept 8, 2024 13:41:04 GMT -5
have I ever once given you the impression I'm afraid of voicing my actual opinion? did I not post a video eviscerating Trump for outsourcing his foreign policy to the Adeleson family? did I not tell you specifically a few pages back Trump using Palestinian as the modern day equivalent of N***er Lover is one of the most repulsive and depraved things I've seen from a politician, ever?
I don't have the time or patience for "content creators" like Jimmy Dore or "political influencers" like Bryan Tyler Cohen. I listen to serious people like Dr. Norman Finklestein, John Mearsheimer, or actual accredited journalists like Aaron Maté and Max Blumenthal.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Sept 8, 2024 14:03:34 GMT -5
You’re concern trolling now. LOL
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Post by GBG on Sept 8, 2024 14:12:54 GMT -5
have I ever once given you the impression I'm afraid of voicing my actual opinion? did I not post a video eviscerating Trump for outsourcing his foreign policy to the Adeleson family? did I not tell you specifically a few pages back Trump using Palestinian as the modern day equivalent of N***er Lover is one of the most repulsive and depraved things I've seen from a politician, ever? I don't have the time or patience for "content creators" like Jimmy Dore or "political influencers" like Bryan Tyler Cohen. I listen to people like Dr. Norman Finklestein, John Mearsheimer, or actual accredited journalists like Aaron Maté and Max Blumenthal. I like Finklestein, but he’s a radical. So is Blumenthal and Mate. Mearsheimer is pro-Russian on the Ukraine war and likely voting for Trump. Blumenthal wrote a screed on Twitter a day ago, attacking Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, after the latter was disrupted in a NY bookstore by vocal protestors. So you are on the extreme, far far left, even if you don’t subscribe to Dore. That’s okay, it’s better than being on far far right, IMO. But I’m a bit more center-left than far left. The political spectrum is becoming a circle. The far left and far right meet somewhere on the continuum. As an example, Jeffrey Sachs, who I greatly have liked, did a two hour interview with Tucker Carlson last week. He has turned into a pro-Russia guy like Tucker is, and even said “Trump and Vance get it” regarding the need for gaining a peace deal in Ukraine. He’s a self-described Social Democrat, and did economic advisory work for Bernie in 2016. I think he’s gone too far in coddling up to Tucker, but is a great example of the extreme right and left coming together as strange bedfellows. It’s why I thought even you could go for Trump in the end.
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Post by JB on Sept 8, 2024 14:29:25 GMT -5
Bash and Tapper deserve to be criticized for their shameful conduct in providing cover to Netanahyu's genocide. but it's clear as day Palestinian lives don't matter to you.
GBG, if you think Dr. Finklestein advocating for Palestinian emancipation or Mearcheimer advocating détente with nuclear armed superpowers is an "extremist far, far left" position, than you're just another unthinking blue MAGA cultist. as a matter of pure fact, Mearcheimer considers Russia invading Ukraine as a war crime, hardly towing the Putin line. he just doesn't believe the Donbass is worth WWIII.
I do not wish to associate with your version of the party that considers Dick Cheney's opinion as more valuable to the Democrat party than the Uncommitted movement. that much is true.
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Post by GBG on Sept 8, 2024 14:39:51 GMT -5
Bash and Tapper deserve to be criticized for their shameful conduct in providing cover to Netanahyu's genocide. but it's clear as day Palestinian lives don't matter to you. GBG, if you think Dr. Finklestein advocating for Palestinian emancipation or Mearcheimer advocating détente with nuclear armed superpowers is an "extremist far, far left" position, than you're just another unthinking blue MAGA cultist. as a matter of pure fact, Mearcheimer considers Russia invading Ukraine as a war crime, hardly towing the Putin line. he just doesn't believe the Donbass is worth WWIII. I do not wish to associate with your version of the party that considers Dick Cheney's opinion as more valuable to the Democrat party than the Uncommitted movement. that much is true. LOL. Now this is a ridiculous screed, accusing me of not caring about Palestinian lives. As usual, far left radicals like you fail to see nuance and it’s all black and white. I want Bibi jailed for his many crimes, a two state solution, and humanitarian aid to explode in Gaza instead of bombs. I want West Bank given back to Palestinian people instead of annexed by Israeli Orthodox fascists. FYI, I grew up a reform Jew, but am agnostic and non-religious. But I can sense anti-Semitic talk on Internet when I read it. You are straddling the line, my friend. BTW, it’s the DEMOCRATIC party, not the “Democrat” party. You give yourself away by use of the pejorative.
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Post by JB on Sept 8, 2024 14:50:06 GMT -5
nothing I said can even remotely be construed as antisemitic. if you are indeed a stern critic of Netanyahu and the Israeli occupation, then you would not consider it an example of my "extremism" that a journalist I follow criticized two CNN anchors that regularly use their massive platform to manufacture consent for the Israeli occupation and spent the better part of a year providing cover for the genocide in Gaza.
the only evidence I can find of antisemitism is you referring to two award-winning Jewish journalists and a Jewish academic as radical and/or extreme.
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Post by GBG on Sept 8, 2024 15:06:30 GMT -5
nothing I said can even remotely construed as anti-Semitic. if you are indeed a stern critic of Netanyahu and the Israeli occupation, then you would not consider it an example of my "extremism" that a journalist I follow criticized two CNN anchors that regular use their massive platform to manufacture consent for the Israeli occupation and spent the better part of a year providing cover for the genocide in Gaza. the only evidence I can find of anti-antisemitism is you referring to two Jewish journalist and a Jewish academic as extreme and radical. I didn’t say you were an anti-Semite, but you still straddle a line where protestors focus disproportionately on Jews in front of the camera such as Bash and Tapper. They don’t control the content on CNN, a wholly owned subsidiary of Warner Bros Discovery which itself is influenced heavily by John Malone and other right-leaning executives. The suits want to give appearance of straight news but are aligned with government foreign policy influence. I know Blumenthal and Finklestien are also Jews, but sometimes we Jews attack our own on the far right. Especially the Orthodox fascists who are Jewish versions of far right Evangelicals in US. Fundamentalism in religion, no matter which religion, is our common enemy.
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Post by JB on Sept 8, 2024 15:07:55 GMT -5
I disagree with your inference.
have a good rest of your afternoon GBG.
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Post by GBG on Sept 8, 2024 15:20:53 GMT -5
I disagree with your inference. have a good rest of your afternoon GBG. Perhaps you shouldn’t have stated that it’s clear that Palestinian lives don’t matter to me, which led to the blowback.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Sept 8, 2024 15:31:13 GMT -5
nothing I said can even remotely be construed as antisemitic. if you are indeed a stern critic of Netanyahu and the Israeli occupation, then you would not consider it an example of my "extremism" that a journalist I follow criticized two CNN anchors that regularly use their massive platform to manufacture consent for the Israeli occupation and spent the better part of a year providing cover for the genocide in Gaza. the only evidence I can find of antisemitism is you referring to two award-winning Jewish journalists and a Jewish academic as radical and/or extreme. 100%. I didn’t catch any antisemitism
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Post by famicommander on Sept 8, 2024 18:28:59 GMT -5
Bo Nix looked freaking horrible today. Good lord.
At least Seattle's prevent defense gifted us an easy TD to make it seem like it was close.
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Post by pie on Sept 8, 2024 19:54:39 GMT -5
Those who are voting for Harris support:
1.Failed Biden policies -- illegal immigration (10 million crossed the border), rising crime in major cities (Denver, Chicago, etc), inflation (the middle class person cannot afford to buy a house), Israel-Palestine war, Russia-Ukraine war
2.SHE WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT THE LAST 4 YEARS
It is beyond stupid to vote for a person because she is a woman and a person of color. She is not qualified, incompetent and will cause more problems!
Wake up, guys! I'm saying this as an independent who wants Trump to win.
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 8, 2024 22:40:24 GMT -5
lol
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Post by duh88 on Sept 9, 2024 3:06:28 GMT -5
I'm stunned that any party is celebrating the endorsement of Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney supports Kamala because he wants the uniparty Wash DC machine to continue - one that will support forever wars, which creates ample opportunities for money laundering and govt contracts, to choice companies. Their new campaign is "mandates" that strip our rights, but reward certain companies with major contracts (*cough* Pfizer, Moderna).
Cheney hasn't apologized for the mistakes in Iraq and Afghanistan - he is no different than he was 25 years ago -- and you guys are happy for his endorsement???
I'm starting to realize that Kamala is quite sincere about sending $20b in arms to Israel to further amplify a genocide against the Palestinians - as well as flame start an entire regional war.
If Cheney's endorsement of Kamala isn't enough to wake you people up in regard to the evil you support, I don't know what else will.
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 9, 2024 19:46:05 GMT -5
Nobody is celebrating Dick/Liz- harris campaign didnt beg them unlike trump did with RFK. They are voting for her because they want to save our Democracy and not because of her policy.. as for giving 20 billion , we been giving Israel aid/support since 1948 (wrong or right) trump never stop the aid. We already know trump kill the border bill and I would not be shock if he call Netanyahu too stop any ceasefire deal. he dont give a s**t about peace -he wants his dictators to win.
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Post by GBG on Sept 9, 2024 20:32:01 GMT -5
Nobody is celebrating Dick/Liz- harris campaign didnt beg them unlike trump did with RFK. They are voting for her because they want to save our Democracy and not because of her policy.. as for giving 20 billion , we been giving Israel aid/support since 1948 (wrong or right) trump never stop the aid. We already know trump kill the border bill and I would not be shock if he call Netanyahu too stop any ceasefire deal. he dont give a s**t about peace -he wants his dictators to win. Kamala is running a unity campaign. She has said she will be POTUS for ALL Americans, that she is all about lifting people up, not tearing them down. There is only one president at a time so Kamala can’t second guess Biden or Blinken. Far rightists want to say in the same breath that Harris is a Communist, wild eyed leftist who wants to send Netanyahu $20 billion with no conditions. That is incoherent. Makes zero sense. If she’s on the far left, she will be aligned with the pro-Palestinian protesters. And I wouldn’t complain about that. But she’s a centrist, unifying politician. She is being called “evil” due to guilt by endorsement. Not even guilt by association, a common practice of McCarthyism. Now all that is required is that someone endorse your campaign, and you automatically agree down the line on the endorser’s past evil policies. The irony here? Most of those throwing around the term “evil” with regard to Harris are the same reactionaries who supported the Bush/Cheney war of choice in Iraq. They don’t want you remembering that they were for Cheney, renditions, water boarding, and Shock and Awe. Now they pretend Harris has blood on her hands because she’s Biden’s loyal VP and can’t do anything right now to stop the wars. Give me a break.
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 9, 2024 20:55:31 GMT -5
"child care is child care"- from the great policy maker trump
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Post by GBG on Sept 10, 2024 0:53:31 GMT -5
I will just leave this here… youtu.be/K2zZ2en48nQ?si=-aN6Y_Yby2_-UJ6ZFor those unfamiliar with him or overseas, this man ran John McCain’s campaign and was behind Sarah Palin pick. He saw the light of his errors long ago.
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Post by duh88 on Sept 10, 2024 4:35:32 GMT -5
Did you hear that, JB???
Murdering Palestinians is now a "UNIFYING" platform!
Love you all, but you Kamala supporters are clowns (and you're getting play-ed).
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