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Post by Ring on Oct 4, 2024 13:25:04 GMT -5
Based off 1 preseason half, I think we all may have underestimated how big of an improvement Westbrook will be over Reggie. 8 assists. Jesus.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 4, 2024 13:31:05 GMT -5
Hunter Tyson with the best +/- of all 30 something guys to touch the floor today. Lol Just goes to show you that stat is not useful in small sample sizes. Because he played putrid defense, fouled out, and got worked over on the glass. You're correct he's not a good defender, but he spaces the floor, even when not shooting guys hang out right next to him which provides space for others. He was 2-3 from 3 and had 6 points on 5 shots. That's value from your 11th guy on the roster. He's way more valuable then Pickett. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 13:33:09 GMT -5
Young guy report
Strawther - not bad
Alexander - meh
Tyson - yikes
Pickett - yikes
Jones - yikes
Hall - made a bad turnover as soon as he checked in, otherwise fine in a small sample
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 13:34:13 GMT -5
Just goes to show you that stat is not useful in small sample sizes. Because he played putrid defense, fouled out, and got worked over on the glass. You're correct he's not a good defender, but he spaces the floor, even when not shooting guys hang out right next to him which provides space for others. He was 2-3 from 3 and had 6 points on 5 shots. That's value from your 11th guy on the roster. He's way more valuable then Pickett. He fouled out in 18 minutes. He's not going to see the court and he has zero value. Pickett and Tyson are both utterly worthless at the NBA level. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 13:36:02 GMT -5
Based off 1 preseason half, I think we all may have underestimated how big of an improvement Westbrook will be over Reggie. 8 assists. Jesus. I don't want to see him take 6 threes in 19 minutes. That's scary to me. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 4, 2024 13:37:40 GMT -5
Based off 1 preseason half, I think we all may have underestimated how big of an improvement Westbrook will be over Reggie. 8 assists. Jesus. I don't want to see him take 6 threes in 19 minutes. That's scary to me. That I agree with. He took way too many shots in general. But he's a threat at least and should make his teammates better. Murray looks so out of shape it's not even funny. Don't even understand how it's possible. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 13:38:50 GMT -5
I don't want to see him take 6 threes in 19 minutes. That's scary to me. That I agree with. He took way too many shots in general. But he's a threat at least and should make his teammates better. Murray looks so out of shape it's not even funny. Don't even understand how it's possible. The problem is we need to play Russ with shooters and we don't have the bodies. I think we're going to see an excruciating amount of Jamal/Russ lineups because of that. |
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Post by pie on Oct 4, 2024 13:39:45 GMT -5
Young guy report Strawther - not badAlexander - meh Tyson - yikes Pickett - yikes Jones - yikes Hall - made a bad turnover as soon as he checked in, otherwise fine in a small sample Strawther - above average Agree with the rest |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 4, 2024 13:40:45 GMT -5
We shot better from FG%, 3PT%, Shot and made more FT's, and outrebounded BOS and lost the game. Difference in the game is they took 60 3's and we took 32. BOS gives themselves a chance at 30 more points then we do. Now I'm not saying we wouldn't of shot more if the starters, and regular subs kept playing, but the reality is that we have to up our 3 PT rate, did like to see us get to the FT line, and Westbrook and Braun will be an improvement over KCP and Jackson in that respect.
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Post by snakemonkey on Oct 4, 2024 13:46:49 GMT -5
You're correct he's not a good defender, but he spaces the floor, even when not shooting guys hang out right next to him which provides space for others. He was 2-3 from 3 and had 6 points on 5 shots. That's value from your 11th guy on the roster. He's way more valuable then Pickett. He fouled out in 18 minutes. He's not going to see the court and he has zero value. Pickett and Tyson are both utterly worthless at the NBA level. No one really likes Tyson but you're pretty delusional if you think there's no pathway to minutes for him Denver has no shooting and they have very little wing depth |
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Post by snakemonkey on Oct 4, 2024 13:47:51 GMT -5
We shot better from FG%, 3PT%, Shot and made more FT's, and outrebounded BOS and lost the game. Difference in the game is they took 60 3's and we took 32. BOS gives themselves a chance at 30 more points then we do. Now I'm not saying we wouldn't of shot more if the starters, and regular subs kept playing, but the reality is that we have to up our 3 PT rate, did like to see us get to the FT line, and Westbrook and Braun will be an improvement over KCP and Jackson in that respect. Denver definitely needs to look at either drawing more FTs and shooting more 3s to make things easier for themselves. They have to completely dominate because they don't shoot 3s or get to line |
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Post by snakemonkey on Oct 4, 2024 13:49:24 GMT -5
Tyson is the only Nugget who didn't grab a rebound in that half. Calvin Booth's ego has not allowed him to admit that drafting him and Pickett were a mistake -- hence removing them from the team Eating the 3rd year on pickett is going to be tough capwise I think Already in a pinch and got 14 mil committed to zeke and dario. Not sure can afford dead money |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 4, 2024 13:51:34 GMT -5
We shot better from FG%, 3PT%, Shot and made more FT's, and outrebounded BOS and lost the game. Difference in the game is they took 60 3's and we took 32. BOS gives themselves a chance at 30 more points then we do. Now I'm not saying we wouldn't of shot more if the starters, and regular subs kept playing, but the reality is that we have to up our 3 PT rate, did like to see us get to the FT line, and Westbrook and Braun will be an improvement over KCP and Jackson in that respect. Denver definitely needs to look at either drawing more FTs and shooting more 3s to make things easier for themselves. They have to completely dominate because they don't shoot 3s or get to line They did shoot 26 FT's so that was encouraging. We have more guys who can get to the line this year then last. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 13:51:57 GMT -5
He fouled out in 18 minutes. He's not going to see the court and he has zero value. Pickett and Tyson are both utterly worthless at the NBA level. No one really likes Tyson but you're pretty delusional if you think there's no pathway to minutes for him Denver has no shooting and they have very little wing depth We've been over this. He's not getting forward minutes over Porter, Gordon, Watson, Cancar, Braun, Strawther, or Saric. There are no minutes available to him at guard or center. So he's not playing. |
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Post by JB on Oct 4, 2024 13:52:20 GMT -5
Based off 1 preseason half, I think we all may have underestimated how big of an improvement Westbrook will be over Reggie. 8 assists. Jesus. Not I, my friend. I tried my very best to explain to NT the planet sized difference in talent between Russ and the Walking Dead. |
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Post by snakemonkey on Oct 4, 2024 14:11:39 GMT -5
No one really likes Tyson but you're pretty delusional if you think there's no pathway to minutes for him Denver has no shooting and they have very little wing depth We've been over this. He's not getting forward minutes over Porter, Gordon, Watson, Cancar, Braun, Strawther, or Saric. There are no minutes available to him at guard or center. So he's not playing. When DJ played with Dario who was SF? He's not competing with Cancar for minutes he's In a completely different role. You're completely delusional lol Just randomly naming players means nothing, just like holiday got minutes there will be minutes for Tyson. Their 3rd best shooter shot 270 last year and it's a long season and they have worst depth in the league. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 14:21:24 GMT -5
We've been over this. He's not getting forward minutes over Porter, Gordon, Watson, Cancar, Braun, Strawther, or Saric. There are no minutes available to him at guard or center. So he's not playing. When DJ played with Dario who was SF? He's not competing with Cancar for minutes he's In a completely different role. You're completely delusional lol Just randomly naming players means nothing, just like holiday got minutes there will be minutes for Tyson. Their 3rd best shooter shot 270 last year and it's a long season and they have worst depth in the league. Of course he's competing with Cancar for minutes, they're both 6'8" swing forwards. Do you even watch this sport? Do you know how infrequently DJ and Saric will play together this year? Do you understand that we didn't run a regular rotation today? Zero two PG sets, zero Jokic and Saric sets, zero Watson minutes, zero minutes with Mike at the 4. Holiday was an extremely versatile player who literally gave us minutes at four different positions last year. Tyson can only play forward and he's the worst one on the main roster by a lot. The depth chart is set. PG: Murray, Westbrook, Braun, Alexander, Pickett SG: Braun, Strawther, Murray, Alexander SF: Porter, Watson, Gordon, Cancar, Braun, Strawther, Tyson, Jones PF: Gordon, Saric, Cancar, Porter, Watson, Nnaji, Tyson, Hall C: Jokic, Saric, Gordon, Jordan, Nnaji, Hall |
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Post by snakemonkey on Oct 4, 2024 14:28:44 GMT -5
Adding MPJ at the 4 just strengthens the case for more Tyson minutes at the 3. Sane as dario/jokic minutes etc..
Vlatko is not an offball shooter like Tyson, vlatko is more of a pure PF
I think Tyson is a garbage pick with little upside but there's clearly a role for him.
Writing out the depth chart just shows it's all bigs and they're going to be desperate for any 3 and D they can find all year
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Post by famicommander on Oct 4, 2024 14:32:20 GMT -5
Adding MPJ at the 4 just strengthens the case for more Tyson minutes at the 3. Sane as dario/jokic minutes etc.. Vlatko is not an offball shooter like Tyson, vlatko is more of a pure PF I think Tyson is a garbage pick with little upside but there's clearly a role for him. Writing out the depth chart just shows it's all bigs and they're going to be desperate for any 3 and D they can find all year If MPJ is playing the 4 it's almost definitely because Malone is playing 2 point guards which means that Strawther or Braun would be playing the 3. Vlatko shot 39% from 3 over his last two healthy seasons. On offense he can play either forward position or smallball 5 and on defense he can cover most wings and forwards. Tyson is the worst defensive player on the roster and shot 29% from 3 at the NBA level last year. |
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Post by snakemonkey on Oct 4, 2024 14:41:18 GMT -5
I don't think Vlatko projects to play any SF
If that was the case they'd have been trying him as backup SF with Watson out. There's more to shooting than just percentages. Tyson should be a decent floor spacer this year.
After the Braun Strawther Watson group there is very clearly Tyson. You'll have to come to terms with that lol.
They have zero wing depth so Tyson is 1 injury away from a significant role
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