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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 10:39:33 GMT -5
So the clippers isnt at all interested in what we are offering I'd wager Booth is trying to dump Zeke. However, Clippers likely have no interest in essentially taking back over twice the salary they'd send out. Instead, given lack of draft picks Nuggets can provide, Clippers are likely asking for Strawther plus one of Pickett/Tyson as the combined salaries match much better. This likely means Booth is trying to find a willing party to take Zeke for maybe some end of bench players he can bundle to avoid sending his 2023 draft boys out the door. It would 5 minutes to realize no one f***ing wants Zeke and we have no draft picks to dump him. Booth is probably gonna get fucked because he is holding out for Clippers to be as stupid as Booth was when he spent 3 picks just to dump Reggie.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 10:40:48 GMT -5
I'd wager Booth is trying to dump Zeke. However, Clippers likely have no interest in essentially taking back over twice the salary they'd send out. Instead, given lack of draft picks Nuggets can provide, Clippers are likely asking for Strawther plus one of Pickett/Tyson as the combined salaries match much better. This likely means Booth is trying to find a willing party to take Zeke for maybe some end of bench players he can bundle to avoid sending his 2023 draft boys out the door. Here's deal. Nobody else is actively trading for Westbrook so we're bidding against ourselves. Let them buy him out which is what they're going to do, then we can sign him for the minimum. And if they dont buy him out? We need Westbrook more than Clippers NEED to get rid. Clippers knows this. The whole world knows this. Tell me again why Clippers HAVE to help us?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 10:41:31 GMT -5
This offseason really is going to come down to Westbrook. If they get him they save face. If they don't it's an absolute disaster. Westbrook/Saric offers a much stronger bench than we had last year. The key is going to be how CB fits in as a starter compared to KCP which I don't think will be an issue at all. It is just so extremely important to add Westbrook. You have a bench with Westbrook/Watson and it will look ugly at times but no team can match that energy and this team is so desperate for a competitor like Westbrook. The Nuggets absolutely have to land him. Clippers FO knows this. Soooo
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 10:42:12 GMT -5
Using last year’s game scores (a Hollinger-invented stat where a GSC of 10 is average), Russ is a definite upgrade on Reggie. The percentage of games played that were below 10, ie below average, were as follows: Westbrook 54%, Jackson 74%. And the percentage of games played that were good outings was 16% for Russ and 13% for Reggie. Just on this basis, and despite the inferior 3PT shooting, Westbrook delivers fewer stinkers and more good games as a % of games played. Our bench will be upgraded with Westbrook, though he might miss more games than the more durable RJ. Just gives Pickett or Trey a chance at some third PG spot duty in that case. We dont have Westbrook. So our bench is just worse
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Post by JB on Jul 5, 2024 10:49:50 GMT -5
everyone is in a holding pattern until the Ty Jones and GTJ's of FA get resolved.
we're being ridiculed as the biggest joke of the offseason and a second rate outfit that's in the process of squandering an ATG's prime, even if the plan was to rest on our laurels, we'll be shamed into making moves now.
calm.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 5, 2024 10:59:28 GMT -5
Here's deal. Nobody else is actively trading for Westbrook so we're bidding against ourselves. Let them buy him out which is what they're going to do, then we can sign him for the minimum. And if they dont buy him out? We need Westbrook more than Clippers NEED to get rid. Clippers knows this. The whole world knows this. Tell me again why Clippers HAVE to help us? They don't have to do anything but they brought in other guards cause they aren't going to use Westbrook this year. He's going to ask them to buy him put if they don't do it. No point in eating up our TPMLE when we don't have to.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 11:18:52 GMT -5
And if they dont buy him out? We need Westbrook more than Clippers NEED to get rid. Clippers knows this. The whole world knows this. Tell me again why Clippers HAVE to help us? They don't have to do anything but they brought in other guards cause they aren't going to use Westbrook this year. He's going to ask them to buy him put if they don't do it. No point in eating up our TPMLE when we don't have to. worst case for them is just not playing him Worst case for us is having Pickett as backup PG lmao. I wouldnt be freaking out if we had CG. Pickett is just so trash
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 11:20:02 GMT -5
everyone is in a holding pattern until the Ty Jones and GTJ's of FA get resolved. we're being ridiculed as the biggest joke of the offseason and a second rate outfit that's in the process of squandering an ATG's prime, even if the plan was to rest on our laurels, we'll be shamed into making moves now. calm. Bro free agency is almost finished. Only a few good players left
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 5, 2024 11:31:08 GMT -5
This offseason really is going to come down to Westbrook. If they get him they save face. If they don't it's an absolute disaster. Westbrook/Saric offers a much stronger bench than we had last year. The key is going to be how CB fits in as a starter compared to KCP which I don't think will be an issue at all. It is just so extremely important to add Westbrook. You have a bench with Westbrook/Watson and it will look ugly at times but no team can match that energy and this team is so desperate for a competitor like Westbrook. The Nuggets absolutely have to land him. They might save face, but they are going to lose their ass with Westbrook. The guy has never won anywhere. Sure he has energy, but he is not a winner and he can't shoot. Just another weak ass player for Denver.
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Post by scooter on Jul 5, 2024 11:39:56 GMT -5
I don't think anyone has much faith in Pickett. I don't have much faith in Alexander either though. I wouldn't count in either as well. But just watching film on both I find Treys fame to be much more likely to excel in the NBA over Picketts. But thats like maybe 10% chance for Trey and 5% for Pickett. Makes sense to me as Pickett is 3 1/2 years older than Alexander.
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Post by scooter on Jul 5, 2024 11:45:52 GMT -5
This offseason really is going to come down to Westbrook. If they get him they save face. If they don't it's an absolute disaster. Westbrook/Saric offers a much stronger bench than we had last year. The key is going to be how CB fits in as a starter compared to KCP which I don't think will be an issue at all. It is just so extremely important to add Westbrook. You have a bench with Westbrook/Watson and it will look ugly at times but no team can match that energy and this team is so desperate for a competitor like Westbrook. The Nuggets absolutely have to land him. They might save face, but they are going to lose their ass with Westbrook. The guy has never won anywhere. Sure he has energy, but he is not a winner and he can't shoot. Just another weak ass player for Denver. Porzingis didn’t do a ton of winning elsewhere. Same with Bruce Brown. Same with Jeff Green in a very long career, although he made it to Finals as a bench player on the 17-18 Lebron Cavs. Role players are situation dependent and at this point Westbrook is a role player. That said, I have no idea whether he can still be good.
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Post by JB on Jul 5, 2024 11:50:54 GMT -5
everyone is in a holding pattern until the Ty Jones and GTJ's of FA get resolved. we're being ridiculed as the biggest joke of the offseason and a second rate outfit that's in the process of squandering an ATG's prime, even if the plan was to rest on our laurels, we'll be shamed into making moves now. calm. Bro free agency is almost finished. Only a few good players left it is. and we're waiting to see if we can hit the jackpot and get a good player for the TPMLE like with Brucie.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 12:03:44 GMT -5
Bro free agency is almost finished. Only a few good players left it is. and we're waiting to see if we can hit the jackpot and get a good player for the TPMLE like with Brucie. Dont get cute, Bruce signed on July 1st BB was a great move. This is just hoping to get lucky. Because Saric clearly isnt convinced
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Post by JB on Jul 5, 2024 12:06:09 GMT -5
I fail to see why that's a relevant point. Bruce made his decision quicker. OK.
there's going to be at least one good player in the FA market that's going to be open to taking the TPMLE after striking out with teams with money. Calvin should exercise patience.
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Post by scooter on Jul 5, 2024 12:16:13 GMT -5
Clippers sign 46th pick (who is 18) to a 3+1 contract.
It’s fair to contrast the title contending Nuggets with other teams (although the Bucks also did this last July and were considered real contenders after trading for Dame), but the fact they signed and rostered 2nd round picks last season is absolutely where the league was heading.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 12:17:07 GMT -5
Calvin should be getting s**t done and not risk getting fucked over.
And its relevant because the BB situation you compared it to is completely different
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Post by JB on Jul 5, 2024 12:17:56 GMT -5
It isn't different at all. and Saric isn't worth losing sleep over.
Bruce struck out in FA and signed with the Nuggets for the TPMLE to rehab his value.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 12:18:22 GMT -5
Clippers sign 46th pick (who is 18) to a 3+1 contract. It’s fair to contrast the title contending Nuggets with other teams (although the Bucks also did this last July and were considered real contenders after trading for Dame), but the fact they signed and rostered 2nd round picks last season is absolutely where the league was heading. Did they have to be 24+ and garbage?
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Post by scooter on Jul 5, 2024 12:19:23 GMT -5
everyone is in a holding pattern until the Ty Jones and GTJ's of FA get resolved. we're being ridiculed as the biggest joke of the offseason and a second rate outfit that's in the process of squandering an ATG's prime, even if the plan was to rest on our laurels, we'll be shamed into making moves now. calm. Bro free agency is almost finished. Only a few good players left There are lots of players who remain unsigned. In each case, it can be debated how good they are, but free agency is far from finished.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 12:21:53 GMT -5
It isn't. Bruce struck out and signed with the Nuggets for the TPMLE to rehab his value. how is it similar? One signed with the nuggets, the other one literally havent even done that How do you know BB «struck out» he believed he could get even better offers the year after Saric or whoever they are talking to is not convinced. And if we do get them it is because he struck out. Cant say BB struck out when he signed day one basically. And if he did then Calvin have done jack s**t and just got insanely lucky. And is trying to do it again
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