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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 4, 2024 19:16:26 GMT -5
I think losing both KCP and MPJ - to be replaced by guys who don't really shoot 3s - is too much of a disaster waiting to happen. Teams would just triple team Jokic and dare anyone not named Jamal Murray to hit a 3. So I'm not a fan of the Ingram idea. Ingram has had seasons of 38, 39, and 39% from 3, his highest attempt seasons are also his highest percentage. I think he would be a fine 3 point shooter who would be way more effective in playoffs especially since he would be 3rd option or 2b option. I get what your saying though. It'd also be nice if Jokic finds his 3 point shooting as well. |
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Post by scooter on Jul 4, 2024 19:51:54 GMT -5
I don’t think the Nuggets FO would be interested. Ingram hasn’t been a winner and it feels like his intangibles are not great. Porter has his flaws as a player and is a bit odd, but he loves basketball, works hard, and from every bit of evidence is a very good teammate. Porter is also a better three point shooter than Ingram.
In general, it seems better to have guys who are 100% committed to the team than guys who are in the same talent group and whose commitment and character is questionable.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jul 4, 2024 19:53:35 GMT -5
I think losing both KCP and MPJ - to be replaced by guys who don't really shoot 3s - is too much of a disaster waiting to happen. Teams would just triple team Jokic and dare anyone not named Jamal Murray to hit a 3. So I'm not a fan of the Ingram idea. Problem with mpj is that when even guarded with a little kid he's not a threat. The moment he puts the ball on the floor it's a TO. When he tries to shoot over a player he extends his leg and commits offensive foul. He's ok when alone but he's not going to be alone when needed. You don't need the third year in a row to conclude this |
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Post by bignuggets on Jul 4, 2024 21:57:56 GMT -5
Ingram would be a good fit IMO. We’d finally have another player that could create their own shot when needed. We’d still have our 1-2 game with Jokic and Jamal. Ingram would get great looks.
Ingram would also give Jamal much needed rest and that’s when Ingram could do his thing with the 2nd unit.
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Post by rock on Jul 4, 2024 22:17:41 GMT -5
I don’t think the Nuggets FO would be interested. Ingram hasn’t been a winner and it feels like his intangibles are not great. Porter has his flaws as a player and is a bit odd, but he loves basketball, works hard, and from every bit of evidence is a very good teammate. Porter is also a better three point shooter than Ingram. In general, it seems better to have guys who are 100% committed to the team than guys who are in the same talent group and whose commitment and character is questionable. Right now the bar for playing for the nuggets is quite low. We shouldn’t be saying no to anyone who can actually play. |
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Post by JB on Jul 4, 2024 22:41:27 GMT -5
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Post by famicommander on Jul 4, 2024 22:42:08 GMT -5
What Woody specifically dispelled was the notion that Jokic went to the front office to demand Westbrook. |
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Post by JB on Jul 4, 2024 22:42:34 GMT -5
I know.
it's a joke.
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Post by scooter on Jul 4, 2024 23:48:23 GMT -5
Westbrook and Coffey for Nnaji works for me.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 4:36:46 GMT -5
So the clippers isnt at all interested in what we are offering |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 4:37:14 GMT -5
Westbrook and Coffey for Nnaji works for me. Insanity if this was an serious suggestion |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 5, 2024 4:38:29 GMT -5
After Saric signs elsewhere and we end up with Ish Smith and Holiday, Booth will say Zeke essentially is our big signing
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Post by wicked3line on Jul 5, 2024 8:23:30 GMT -5
So the clippers isnt at all interested in what we are offering I'd wager Booth is trying to dump Zeke. However, Clippers likely have no interest in essentially taking back over twice the salary they'd send out. Instead, given lack of draft picks Nuggets can provide, Clippers are likely asking for Strawther plus one of Pickett/Tyson as the combined salaries match much better. This likely means Booth is trying to find a willing party to take Zeke for maybe some end of bench players he can bundle to avoid sending his 2023 draft boys out the door. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 5, 2024 8:30:48 GMT -5
So the clippers isnt at all interested in what we are offering I'd wager Booth is trying to dump Zeke. However, Clippers likely have no interest in essentially taking back over twice the salary they'd send out. Instead, given lack of draft picks Nuggets can provide, Clippers are likely asking for Strawther plus one of Pickett/Tyson as the combined salaries match much better. This likely means Booth is trying to find a willing party to take Zeke for maybe some end of bench players he can bundle to avoid sending his 2023 draft boys out the door. Here's deal. Nobody else is actively trading for Westbrook so we're bidding against ourselves. Let them buy him out which is what they're going to do, then we can sign him for the minimum. |
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Post by Ring on Jul 5, 2024 9:39:29 GMT -5
This offseason really is going to come down to Westbrook. If they get him they save face. If they don't it's an absolute disaster.
Westbrook/Saric offers a much stronger bench than we had last year. The key is going to be how CB fits in as a starter compared to KCP which I don't think will be an issue at all.
It is just so extremely important to add Westbrook. You have a bench with Westbrook/Watson and it will look ugly at times but no team can match that energy and this team is so desperate for a competitor like Westbrook. The Nuggets absolutely have to land him.
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Post by Ring on Jul 5, 2024 9:41:05 GMT -5
Westbrook and Coffey for Nnaji works for me. Insanity if this was an serious suggestion Would be the coolest thing ever if this happened but Zeke has negative value. He's the worst player in that trade and it's not even close lol |
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Post by GBG on Jul 5, 2024 9:52:27 GMT -5
Using last year’s game scores (a Hollinger-invented stat where a GSC of 10 is average), Russ is a definite upgrade on Reggie. The percentage of games played that were below 10, ie below average, were as follows: Westbrook 54%, Jackson 74%. And the percentage of games played that were good outings was 16% for Russ and 13% for Reggie. Just on this basis, and despite the inferior 3PT shooting, Westbrook delivers fewer stinkers and more good games as a % of games played.
Our bench will be upgraded with Westbrook, though he might miss more games than the more durable RJ. Just gives Pickett or Trey a chance at some third PG spot duty in that case.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 5, 2024 10:05:24 GMT -5
Using last year’s game scores (a Hollinger-invented stat where a GSC of 10 is average), Russ is a definite upgrade on Reggie. The percentage of games played that were below 10, ie below average, were as follows: Westbrook 54%, Jackson 74%. And the percentage of games played that were good outings was 16% for Russ and 13% for Reggie. Just on this basis, and despite the inferior 3PT shooting, Westbrook delivers fewer stinkers and more good games as a % of games played. Our bench will be upgraded with Westbrook, though he might miss more games than the more durable RJ. Just gives Pickett or Trey a chance at some third PG spot duty in that case. Is it bad ghat I like Trey way more then Pickett?? |
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Post by Ring on Jul 5, 2024 10:20:34 GMT -5
Using last year’s game scores (a Hollinger-invented stat where a GSC of 10 is average), Russ is a definite upgrade on Reggie. The percentage of games played that were below 10, ie below average, were as follows: Westbrook 54%, Jackson 74%. And the percentage of games played that were good outings was 16% for Russ and 13% for Reggie. Just on this basis, and despite the inferior 3PT shooting, Westbrook delivers fewer stinkers and more good games as a % of games played. Our bench will be upgraded with Westbrook, though he might miss more games than the more durable RJ. Just gives Pickett or Trey a chance at some third PG spot duty in that case. Is it bad ghat I like Trey way more then Pickett?? I don't think anyone has much faith in Pickett. I don't have much faith in Alexander either though. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 5, 2024 10:33:23 GMT -5
Is it bad ghat I like Trey way more then Pickett?? I don't think anyone has much faith in Pickett. I don't have much faith in Alexander either though. I wouldn't count in either as well. But just watching film on both I find Treys fame to be much more likely to excel in the NBA over Picketts. But thats like maybe 10% chance for Trey and 5% for Pickett. |
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