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Post by eathb on Jul 3, 2024 0:34:49 GMT -5
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Post by somborshuffle on Jul 3, 2024 0:41:55 GMT -5
GTJ for the vet min would be absolutely wild when he's exactly what we need and should be prepared to offer more. If that happens then I think we can safely say that the Nuggets management have totally lost the plot. If we sign gtj for the vet min that’s a bad thing? Or am I mis understanding the expression “lost the plot”? As in, GTJ signing for the vet min on Milwaukee is wild when surely the Nuggets could offer more. |
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Post by rock on Jul 3, 2024 1:26:52 GMT -5
Wolves interested in Saric and Lonnie walker
Sigh
Nuggets are punting the season. How is this even possible? You have a top ten all time talent and you just give up?
The front office should be doing everything to improve the team
Ownership should be spending whatever it takes
The nuggets will never have anyone this good ever again in franchise history.
And they are throwing it away
Why? I don’t understand
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Post by inyourmind on Jul 3, 2024 1:29:54 GMT -5
I was just comparing him to Westbrook, which is apples to oranges, but Westbrook at 35 completely smokes Trent in every non-shooting category. FTr .241 - .113. RB% 12.7 - 5.2. AS% 29.2 - 8.6. ST% 2.4 - 1.9. BLK% 1.4 - 0.4 Put em together and you have one heck of a player. As it is, I'd probably take a chance on Trent over Rus, but I think sometimes we do overrate shooting. Sure, it's a needed skill these days. But it's not everything Maybe a team will buck the trend and it'll change but as of right now shooting is pretty crucial. Forcing your defender to come all the way out and making the opposing team worry about leaving you open is a game changer. Even the little things like a last second scramble to content giving you a better chance at an offensive rebound. Nobody is doing that with players like Westbrook. Even when shooters are missing they still create space for others. We see teams dare Gordon and even Jokic to shoot and what happens when those are bricking. Just look at game 7 vs Minny. The stretch where we lost the game involved some bricked 3's and an opposing defense that guarded us like they weren't afraid of them. Makes scoring in other ways more difficult. Trent's 3 point shooting paired with a player like Jokic would be pretty valuable. If the young guys don't improve their 3 point shooting next season it'll show and be a pretty big flaw IMO. Westbook could be a nice add at this point but we'll need improved shooting to come along with it. |
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Post by freakns on Jul 3, 2024 4:15:26 GMT -5
Wolves interested in Saric and Lonnie walker Sigh Nuggets are punting the season. How is this even possible? You have a top ten all time talent and you just give up? The front office should be doing everything to improve the team Ownership should be spending whatever it takes The nuggets will never have anyone this good ever again in franchise history. And they are throwing it away Why? I don’t understand because ownership is unwilling to spend. its as simple as that. or Booth is complete idiot who doesn't want to sign anyone who knows how to play basketball, and while we dont know him and someone might question his intelligence, I doubt he is full grown idiot. letting KCP go and replacing him with nothing was everything you need to know about ownership. they did same thing with Rams. the moment they won title they let Von Miller and Robert Woods go. |
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 7:04:48 GMT -5
I was just comparing him to Westbrook, which is apples to oranges, but Westbrook at 35 completely smokes Trent in every non-shooting category. FTr .241 - .113. RB% 12.7 - 5.2. AS% 29.2 - 8.6. ST% 2.4 - 1.9. BLK% 1.4 - 0.4 Put em together and you have one heck of a player. As it is, I'd probably take a chance on Trent over Rus, but I think sometimes we do overrate shooting. Sure, it's a needed skill these days. But it's not everything why not sign Gary, trade for Russ and call it a offseason? Murray GTJ MPJ AG Joker with Russ/Braun/Watson/Straw/Holmes off the bench. I'm actually excited for the Russ/Holmes PnR. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 3, 2024 7:20:55 GMT -5
Why not just do anything
Calvin taking forever getting Saric and Vlatko to comitt
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Post by eathb on Jul 3, 2024 7:28:53 GMT -5
LeBron signs a 2 year max with the Lakers.
Meaning no rumored pay cut for the Lakers to get DeRozan.
That means we can get DeRozan
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 7:32:54 GMT -5
sure, if Derozan want to sign for the TPMLE, it's all his lol.
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Post by voodoo on Jul 3, 2024 8:07:04 GMT -5
LeBron signs a 2 year max with the Lakers. Meaning no rumored pay cut for the Lakers to get DeRozan. That means we can get DeRozan Is he in Europe, if not, the chances are slim |
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Jul 3, 2024 8:44:57 GMT -5
and considering reports right now are that DeRozan isn't even entertaining any MLE offer, we can probably get the notion of landing his services out of our heads especially for TPMLE
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Post by Ring on Jul 3, 2024 9:35:45 GMT -5
I doubt either of these happen at this point but if the Nuggets could land both Russ and GTJ, I'd say that's a pretty damn good offseason considering they lost KCP. Trent is a great shooter and Westbrook is the exact type of PG this team needs. His competitiveness and effort will rub off on the team as well. They absolutely have to find a way to get Russ.
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Post by scooter on Jul 3, 2024 9:43:23 GMT -5
Gary Trent Jr might be joining Milwaukee on the vet minimum, wtf If this is true, that is completely fuc*ed. He could start here or at least play 25min + off the bench. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in Calvin’s office just to see how incompetent he is. This is the thing about the stuff I get to read on this board — 80% of the current posters act like there are not 29 other teams in the league, the owners of each of which want the teams to get better, sell more tickets and luxury boxes at higher prices, win more, and be more prestigious and valuable. There are 30 options for every NBA player and for some lower level players there are attractive options in overseas leagues as well. The Bucks have no starting SG. Last season, while going all in to win by trading for Lillard (at the time they were viewed as a legit title contender), they were weak at that spot with Beasley on a 1-year minimum contract, after they used up their assets elsewhere (having traded G. Allen to get the Lillard trade done) and had only that available to fill the SG spot. Beasley is a free agent, and he wasn’t great for the Bucks as he’s not a good enough defender to help cover for Lillard. In terms of available role/minutes/etc., the Bucks have plenty to offer a guy like 25 year old Trent, who made $18.5 mil last season. They don’t have a lot of $$$ to offer right now, and its possible that Trent is one of this season’s Bruce Browns who have to take a small 1 year deal and go back into free agency next season (when the Bucks and other teams may have more available $$$). The Bucks — who don’t have a Christian Braun — are probably the best landing spot in the league for a guy in Trent’s position, although there are probably others. The Nuggets are 1 of 30 teams. Yes they are a contender, but they’re not the only good team and other teams have attractive sales pitches (money, role, playing with certain players, whatever etc.) to players. Its tiresome to read constantly how “I can’t believe we’re not getting this guy and its only because the Nuggets have no idea what they are doing, and furthermore the entire front office just decided to abandon their jobs and head to the South Pacific where there is no cell service and ownership is fine with that because it doesn’t give a f**k.” Jeesuz. |
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Post by scooter on Jul 3, 2024 9:48:40 GMT -5
If we sign gtj for the vet min that’s a bad thing? Or am I mis understanding the expression “lost the plot”? As in, GTJ signing for the vet min on Milwaukee is wild when surely the Nuggets could offer more. They have 1 TMLE and vet min deals. It appears they are offering the TMLE to Saric and we’ll just have to wait and see if that’s the deal. If it is, they can’t “offer more” to anyone at any position. The Bucks have more or less no shooting guards, so for a young player who needs to rehabilitate his value, that’s a golden opportunity. |
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 9:54:30 GMT -5
compare Malik Beasley's value (non-existent) to Bruce's and KCP's value (generational wealth). and yes, the latter two are more talented than the former, but we're strictly talking optics here.
I would be shocked if Gary would choose the Bucks over a starting position with the Nuggets if given the option.
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Post by Ring on Jul 3, 2024 10:03:01 GMT -5
compare Malik Beasley's value (non-existent) to Bruce's and KCP's value (generational wealth). and yes, the latter two are more talented than the former, but we're strictly talking optics here. I would be shocked if Gary would choose the Bucks over a starting position with the Nuggets if given the option. There is no world where Gary Trent is starting over Christian Braun. Not for the Nuggets. Did you forget who our coach and GM are? CB is penciled in as the starter. That's not changing. |
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 10:07:39 GMT -5
Gary is a vet and at the very least possesses the ability to be a quality defender if placed in the right position and coached correctly. Malone is biased towards vets before anything else.
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Post by Ring on Jul 3, 2024 10:10:42 GMT -5
Gary is a vet and at the very least possesses the ability to be a quality defender if placed in the right position and coached correctly. Malone is biased towards vets before anything else. Malone loves Christian Braun and so does Calvin. That man is starting, which is the correct move. And as I've said, I don't think many people are going to miss KCP/his fit with the starters. I think they're going to miss having CB off the bench. But at the same time, Braun is probably going to have to play 30+ MPG now. Murray-CB-MPJ-AG-Jokic has a little bit of everything. CB has to get to 38% from 3 as a starter, because his chemistry with Jokic is elite and he's better at certain things defensively compared to KCP. That starting 5 is going to whip ass. Russ-Trent-Watson-Holmes is a hell of a bench too. Just have to find a way to get those 2. |
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 10:53:46 GMT -5
of course the Celtics don't get poached for their depth, they have tax concerns and that is not gentlemanly.
rock, take a lap.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 3, 2024 10:55:39 GMT -5
Saric had a great game against Doncic and Vlatko yesterday. Not sure i trust we get him until its official. He deserves more money than Zeke
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