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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 11:16:17 GMT -5
I'll be ecstatic if we get Saric. Not only can he fill in for Jokic in a pinch, but I think he can play alongside him against certain teams. On top of fact he's got a diversified offensive game that should fit into our system.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 11:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by scooter on Jul 3, 2024 11:23:49 GMT -5
compare Malik Beasley's value (non-existent) to Bruce's and KCP's value (generational wealth). and yes, the latter two are more talented than the former, but we're strictly talking optics here. I would be shocked if Gary would choose the Bucks over a starting position with the Nuggets if given the option. Why? The Bucks play in the weaker east, which gives any talented team a higher chance of making it through. Giannis is a 2 time MVP and Finals MVP, and Lillard is an 8 time all-star with whom Trent played for 2 1/2 seasons. Clearly, I have no idea about the relationship between Lillard and Trent other than they have one, and I’m guessing Trent has never had any sort of relationship with anyone in the Nuggets’ organization — player, coach, training guy, front office executive, owner, ball boy. The Bucks’ 23-24 season was a bit of a mess, but a few years earlier their GM Jon Horst won the executive of the year award and was considered something of a wunderkind. And lots of guys around the league know and like Doc Rivers. And I’m guessing Trent’s agent is well aware that Booth has talked up Braun as the heir apparent to the Nuggets starting SG spot. Lillard and Trent were teammates and unless there is some bad blood which seems unlikely, I would think Lillard would be selling Trent hard on the Bucks and the golden opportunity he’d have there. |
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Post by game on Jul 3, 2024 11:24:43 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea.
Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko.
If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on.
Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely.
Agents do not want their guys taking minimums unless the options are extremely limited to basically just that. There are still teams with cap space and exceptions that need to allocate those funds. He's not signing a f***ing minimum.
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Post by Ring on Jul 3, 2024 11:29:39 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea. Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko. If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on. Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely. Agents do not want their guys taking minimums unless the options are extremely limited to basically just that. There are still teams with cap space and exceptions that need to allocate those funds. He's not signing a f***ing minimum. I mean if this happens a Westbrook-Strawther-Watson-Saric-Holmes bench is still a MAJOR upgrade over Reggie-CB-Watson-Zeke/DJ bench. We should all be rooting for that. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 11:33:00 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea. Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko. If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on. Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely. Agents do not want their guys taking minimums unless the options are extremely limited to basically just that. There are still teams with cap space and exceptions that need to allocate those funds. He's not signing a f***ing minimum. I mean if this happens a Westbrook-Strawther-Watson-Saric-Holmes bench is still a MAJOR upgrade over Reggie-CB-Watson-Zeke/DJ bench. We should all be rooting for that. Huge upgrade. I expect Watson to be better this year, and Vlatko, Westbrook, and Saric are real rotational players. I'm still going to keep pushing that Malone blends his lineups more. It's important for bench guys to get a feel playing with different starters at times. |
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Post by scooter on Jul 3, 2024 11:33:22 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea. Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko. If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on. Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely. This makes sense, although it leaves a big mess of unfinished business in the form of Zeke Nnaji. Given that Saric is busy playing games in Europe, and that the Nuggets don’t have a rich contract to offer (other than minimums, most of the announced deals so far are richer than the TMLE), I’m not at all surprised that wasn’t nailed down immediately. We’re only 2 days into this and many many players remain unsigned. Even if Saric is very interested, there would still be issues to negotiate about length of contract and such, and we don’t know what the Nuggets would want and we don’t know what Saric would prefer and there are plenty of moving parts. I hate to mention this, but since we’re only talking about something in the $5 mil range, there is also the possibility a European team is making a sales pitch. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 3, 2024 11:41:24 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea. Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko. If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on. Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely. Agents do not want their guys taking minimums unless the options are extremely limited to basically just that. There are still teams with cap space and exceptions that need to allocate those funds. He's not signing a f***ing minimum. I mean if this happens a Westbrook-Strawther-Watson-Saric-Holmes bench is still a MAJOR upgrade over Reggie-CB-Watson-Zeke/DJ bench. We should all be rooting for that. OK, so what if the bench is going to be a major upgrade. What are they going to do about three starters named Porter, Gordon and Braun. In reverse order, Braun can't shoot for s**t; Porter and Gordon are not consistent shooters. Oh, forgive me, they are consistent shooters-----consistently bad with occasional decent performances. But, put them in tough spots like games 6 and 7 against the Wolves and they totally fail. If you don't believe me, go look at the box scores for the game 6 and 7 chokes against the Wolves. In addition, one can't count on Murray being around in good health at any time in the season. The guy not only makes a lot of money for himself, but makes a mint for the medical personnel tending to his constant and persistent injuries. He is always playing hurt. Time to try Texas Hold 'Em, Jamal where you can sit on your ass and not get hurt. |
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Post by game on Jul 3, 2024 11:46:53 GMT -5
Feels like a very Tim Connelly roster with way too many 4s and 5s and a shocking lack of depth on the wings, where depth should not be optional. I count 8(!) guys out of 15 who are best classified as a 4 or 5, and that doesn't include Porter, who frankly is also best as a 4.
I'm not sure if this is because we're in the middle of the offseason and Zeke will be moved (likely with our last pick) to get a wing, or if this is Calvin forcing Malone's hands on the wing with Strawther.
Gordon
Jokic
Tyson
Nnaji
Holmes
Vlatko
Saric
Jordan
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Post by game on Jul 3, 2024 11:50:25 GMT -5
I mean if this happens a Westbrook-Strawther-Watson-Saric-Holmes bench is still a MAJOR upgrade over Reggie-CB-Watson-Zeke/DJ bench. We should all be rooting for that. OK, so what if the bench is going to be a major upgrade. What are they going to do about three starters named Porter, Gordon and Braun. In reverse order, Braun can't shoot for s**t; Porter and Gordon are not consistent shooters. Oh, forgive me, they are consistent shooters-----consistently bad with occasional decent performances. But, put them in tough spots like games 6 and 7 against the Wolves and they totally fail. If you don't believe me, go look at the box scores for the game 6 and 7 chokes against the Wolves. In addition, one can't count on Murray being around in good health at any time in the season. The guy not only makes a lot of money for himself, but makes a mint for the medical personnel tending to his constant and persistent injuries. He is always playing hurt. Time to try Texas Hold 'Em, Jamal where you can sit on your ass and not get hurt.  |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 11:51:19 GMT -5
Feels like a very Tim Connelly roster with way too many 4s and 5s and a shocking lack of depth on the wings, where depth should not be optional. I count 8(!) guys out of 15 who are best classified as a 4 or 5, and that doesn't include Porter, who frankly is also best as a 4. I'm not sure if this is because we're in the middle of the offseason and Zeke will be moved (likely with our last pick) to get a wing, or if this is Calvin forcing Malone's hands on the wing with Strawther. Gordon Jokic Tyson Nnaji Holmes Vlatko Saric Jordan I don't disagree but the league is also seeing a bunch of teams go to two big men lineups. Also I don't expect Tyson, Nnaji, or DJ to really play at all. Which is part of our gm's poor roster planning. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 11:51:57 GMT -5
OK, so what if the bench is going to be a major upgrade. What are they going to do about three starters named Porter, Gordon and Braun. In reverse order, Braun can't shoot for s**t; Porter and Gordon are not consistent shooters. Oh, forgive me, they are consistent shooters-----consistently bad with occasional decent performances. But, put them in tough spots like games 6 and 7 against the Wolves and they totally fail. If you don't believe me, go look at the box scores for the game 6 and 7 chokes against the Wolves. In addition, one can't count on Murray being around in good health at any time in the season. The guy not only makes a lot of money for himself, but makes a mint for the medical personnel tending to his constant and persistent injuries. He is always playing hurt. Time to try Texas Hold 'Em, Jamal where you can sit on your ass and not get hurt. That guy has to be a troll right?? |
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Post by scooter on Jul 3, 2024 12:51:55 GMT -5
That guy has to be a troll right?? A troll or just kind of an idiot to argue that Porter can’t shoot. I’ve never been the biggest Porter fan, but he’s a 6’11” guy who is a career 50/41/81 shooter, which puts him in the conversation of best tall shooters in NBA history. We all know he hasn’t been as good in the playoffs, but even against playoff defenses, his career numbers are 46/38/78, which is still extremely good as playoff shooting efficiency usually declines (it did even for Nowitzki, the greatest big man shooter in history). It would be fantastic if Porter was a playoff riser and who knows, we might still see that happen one year. And he certainly has his limitations. Despite those limitations, he is on the list (with current players Jokic and Towns and Love, all of whom are behind Nowitzki) of best big man shooters in NBA history so far. But sure, Porter can’t shoot because he doesn’t make — I don’t know — 75% of his face up shots? |
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 12:57:09 GMT -5
just read that Stanley Johnson is making his voyage to Europe. I don't understand this. the guy has a great attitude, hard worker. in his prime defensively. shot 45% from 3 in 30 games for the Spurs last time we saw him. not sustainable but shows improvement nonetheless.
the Suns, Nuggets, Clippers and 76ers are all vying for Reggie Bullock's services. is he really an upgrade over Stanley?
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 12:59:58 GMT -5
just read that Stanley Johnson is making his voyage to Europe. I don't understand this. the guy has a great attitude, hard worker. in his prime defensively. shot 45% from 3 in 30 games for the Spurs last season. not sustainable but shows improvement nonetheless. the Suns, Nuggets, Clippers and 76ers are all vying for Reggie Bullock's services. is he really an upgrade over Stanley? How much is Stanley getting overseas?? Is it more then vet minimum?? |
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 13:01:36 GMT -5
I have no idea.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 3, 2024 15:11:52 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea. Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko. If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on. Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely. Agents do not want their guys taking minimums unless the options are extremely limited to basically just that. There are still teams with cap space and exceptions that need to allocate those funds. He's not signing a f***ing minimum. Im preparing myself for a lot worse than Saric and Westbrook |
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Post by Butterman on Jul 3, 2024 15:26:53 GMT -5
The Trent/Milwaukee stuff is completely fabricated guessing from some bozo on Twitter. Why y'all are spending time on this, I have no idea. Prepare yourselves for the Nuggets to bring in Westbrook and Saric, and bring back Vlatko. If you're convincing yourself they're getting anybody else, based on nothing, you're begging to throw a fit about something you ignored the tea leaves on. Now, maybe things change. Saric, in particular, is a bit puzzling why it wouldn't have been announced yet. Westbrook has more variables and teams involved. It sounds like a highly possible, maybe probable, outcome, is Westbrook is rolled up in the Dunn sign and trade, bought out, and signs for the minimum with Denver. Tony Jones basically said that's likely. Agents do not want their guys taking minimums unless the options are extremely limited to basically just that. There are still teams with cap space and exceptions that need to allocate those funds. He's not signing a f***ing minimum. Im preparing myself for a lot worse than Saric and Westbrook I’m getting my popcorn ready for Rock’s reactions I hear we are targeting Cory Joseph |
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Post by jimijam28 on Jul 3, 2024 15:36:36 GMT -5
Who
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Post by BBBbbb on Jul 3, 2024 15:40:08 GMT -5
How is TC suddenly able to get good free agent pickups.
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