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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 15:02:13 GMT -5
If you could do Nnaji for Westbrook and then sign a center and Vlatko then maybe you set up
Murray/Westbrook/Pickett/(Alexander)
Braun/Strawther/(third two way)
MPJ/Watson/Tyson
Gordon/Holmes/Cancars
Jokic/(mystery center)/Jordan/(Hall)
But that leaves an incredibly large hole behind Braun. Gotta find a way to jettison Tyson in this scenario and replace him with another 2/3, even if it's just Holiday.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 15:02:45 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting the salary cap came in 1 million lower then expected. I don't think we're gonna see the saleable cap increases year to year others think because there's no where else to get more income outside of inflation. Ummmm, hate to break it to you bud but the cap is about to increase significantly in the next few years! Specifically, apparently you missed the leaks on the next TV deal financials as the NBA will see roughly 2.5-3 times more money after next season compared to the current contract. This will result in the cap rising 10% annually for multiple years (spreads the increase out over several seasons instead of one big jump similar to when Warriors signed KD). This is the last gasp of money they're getting. Yes it will go up but the tc providers are going to lose their ass on these deals and I don't see any new deals ever being an increase like this one is. Networks and TV packages are dying breed. Sports have been living off of people buying packages that include sports but don't actually watch sports. |
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Post by wicked3line on Jul 1, 2024 15:02:53 GMT -5
Hilarious, if true. I never want to hear for the rest of my life that the Nuggets need the TPMLE. This will be two years in a row they've used it on a guy who is a minimum player. Just use minimums. There's no available free agent center who is much different than Plumlee, who is on a minimum. Saric is a minimum guy. The argument for having the TPMLE was to catch a player who is better than a minimum, in the vein of Bruce. Maybe sees his market dry up or is willing to give up a little bit to get the value bump of playing with Jokic. That's how you use your TPMLE. On a value contract, not to overpay a minimum because you're too lazy or too bad at pitching guys to choose Jokic basketball nirvana versus the flaming bag of s**t in Phoenix. This front office is absolutely awful on the margins. Genuinely wondering why they burned three seconds to dump Reggie? They didn't free up money for anything. So all that about bringing Vlatko back was just fluff according to Wind? Not necessarily as currently to match Westbrook salary Nuggets would have to aggregate Strawther and Tyson, Strawther and Picket, or Picket and Tyson together to make it work. That leaves an empty spot for Cancar. |
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 15:05:26 GMT -5
So all that about bringing Vlatko back was just fluff according to Wind? Not necessarily as currently to match Westbrook salary Nuggets would have to aggregate Strawther and Tyson, Strawther and Picket, or Picket and Tyson together to make it work. That leaves an empty spot for Cancar. There is no way in hell we can trade Strawther right now with our current big-heavy roster setup. He's literally the only bench shooting guard and he's not even a shooter. Zeke absolutely has to go out. There is no wiggle room there. |
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Post by Dante on Jul 1, 2024 15:06:08 GMT -5
OKC,Mavs,Wolves ............................................................................................Denver? Klay to Mavs on 3/50 They lost two decent perimeter defenders and replaced them with the ghost of Klay Thompson? Dallas got worse. They didn't need another aging guy to chuck up shots, they needed a guy who can help cover for the defensive sieves that are Kyrie and Luka. I know that majority of Nuggets fans did not watch the finals, but Mavs lost due to bad offense, bad 3 point shooting (32% on the series) not because of defense. Same way we lost to the Wolves because our 2nd and 3rd option couldnt buy a bucket while Jokic was being triple teamed. I bet that if we somehow got the Klay, everyone here would be jumping out of their chairs to speak to his greatness and how good of a fit and a player he is. But since he is going to the Mavs, he sucks. This fan base... |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 15:09:01 GMT -5
the idea of Calvin trading the one player from the 23 draft that has a chance of signing a second NBA contract for Russ is hilarious.
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 15:10:05 GMT -5
They lost two decent perimeter defenders and replaced them with the ghost of Klay Thompson? Dallas got worse. They didn't need another aging guy to chuck up shots, they needed a guy who can help cover for the defensive sieves that are Kyrie and Luka. I know that majority of Nuggets fans did not watch the finals, but Mavs lost due to bad offense, bad 3 point shooting (32% on the series) not because of defense. Same way we lost to the Wolves because our 2nd and 3rd option couldnt buy a bucket while Jokic was being triple teamed. I bet that if we somehow got the Klay, everyone here would be jumping out of their chairs to speak to his greatness and how good of a fit and a player he is. But since he is going to the Mavs, he sucks. This fan base... If you try to play Klay, Kyrie, and Luka at the same time you're going to give up ridiculous point totals. |
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 15:12:15 GMT -5
the idea of Calvin trading the one player from the 23 draft that has a chance of signing a second NBA contract for Russ is hilarious. Regardless of his precious draft status, there's just no workable way that we ship out a SG for another PG. In that scenario we'd have lost KCP, Strawther, and Holiday and replaced them with literally nobody. |
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Post by Ring on Jul 1, 2024 15:12:51 GMT -5
Another team over the cap finds a way to shell out $17 million dollar deals. We can’t even sign minimums Nuggets front office is a joke once again We are a play in team folks. Get used to it The short answer is this. MPJ is making 35 million. That's more than PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively combined. When we decided to have THREE guys on max deals it makes the rest if the roster a challenge. MPJ is a glorified catch and shoot player who's an average defender and were paying him max money. I'd rather have three other players to round out roster than him. Correct. The MPJ contract has killed the flexibility of this team as he is severely overpaid. Like if Bruce was on the team last year, MPJ probably would have averaged about 24 MPG in the Wolves series. He's never going to improve either which is the really disappointing part. Streaky shooter, solid rebounder, average defender at best. You put a physical defender on him and you're playing 4 on 5. |
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Post by GBG on Jul 1, 2024 15:14:39 GMT -5
Why all the chatter around here when all we’ve done so far is…nothing?
Many hyperactive posters on NT these days.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 15:15:11 GMT -5
the idea of Calvin trading the one player from the 23 draft that has a chance of signing a second NBA contract for Russ is hilarious. Regardless of his precious draft status, there's just no workable way that we ship out a SG for another PG. In that scenario we'd have lost KCP, Strawther, and Holiday and replaced them with literally nobody. yep. if they refuse to take Zeke, they can have Pickett and Tyson. the Clippers will very likely cut one or both from the roster and they'll get a head start on their Turkish League trajectory. |
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Post by Dante on Jul 1, 2024 15:16:52 GMT -5
Who said that they will? But to have 2 of those 3 as your backourt at all times is a major win for them. Especially due to his age and injury history they will most likely use him as a 6th man to fill those gaps.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 15:17:59 GMT -5
Why all the chatter around here when all we’ve done so far is…nothing? Many hyperactive posters on NT these days. the Nuggets have been the talk of the NBA world for all the wrong reasons. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 15:24:55 GMT -5
Zeke has to go. Way too many bodies at the 4/5 spots when the current list of outgoing players is a PG (presumably to be replaced by Russ) and two wings who are not being replaced at all as you're using their spots on bigs.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 15:27:53 GMT -5
he does have to go, but unless we hire Suge Knight as assistant GM, we can't force teams to take Zeke. 6 SRP's might have done it, but Calvin burned those moving up a few spots in the draft and dumping Reggie's 5m contract.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 1, 2024 15:29:29 GMT -5
Why all the chatter around here when all we’ve done so far is…nothing? Many hyperactive posters on NT these days. Because it is a critical moment |
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Post by Ring on Jul 1, 2024 15:29:50 GMT -5
he does have to go, but unless we hire Suge Knight as assistant GM, we can't force teams to take Zeke. 6 SRP's might have done it, but Calvin burned those moving up a few spots in the draft and dumping Reggie's 5m contract. Don't forget the picks he attached to Bones too. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 1, 2024 15:30:34 GMT -5
The team is going to be good this year. The problem is we just saw how fine the margins are in the playoffs, and ideally you're tweaking to improve on last year's team/performance where you can because it wasn't good enough last year. They couldn't do anything about Bruce. Losing KCP was avoidable, and now they're worse than last year, while much of the west is better. And they weren't good enough last year. I don't think the shooting or defense project to be good enough to win four playoff series, but time will tell. I thought the shooting failed them badly last year, and they're going to be significantly worse this year. Operation load the paint will be in full effect. If Braun isn't a 40% 3 point shooter on high volume, no chance. And then you talk about who can actually contribute in the playoffs from the projected bench group. How can Braun be a 40% 3 point shooter when he is either under direct orders not to shoot; or is afraid to do so? If he is a 40% shooter, it will be 4 for 10 for the year. The guy is no rapid fire machine gun shooter. He is no answer to any question except whether he is an example of why this team will be so unable to be a real force in the playoffs. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 1, 2024 15:30:39 GMT -5
he does have to go, but unless we hire Suge Knight as assistant GM, we can't force teams to take Zeke. 6 SRP's might have done it, but Calvin burned those moving up a few spots in the draft and dumping Reggie's 5m contract. Insane |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 15:31:54 GMT -5
The short answer is this. MPJ is making 35 million. That's more than PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively combined. When we decided to have THREE guys on max deals it makes the rest if the roster a challenge. MPJ is a glorified catch and shoot player who's an average defender and were paying him max money. I'd rather have three other players to round out roster than him. Correct. The MPJ contract has killed the flexibility of this team as he is severely overpaid. Like if Bruce was on the team last year, MPJ probably would have averaged about 24 MPG in the Wolves series. He's never going to improve either which is the really disappointing part. Streaky shooter, solid rebounder, average defender at best. You put a physical defender on him and you're playing 4 on 5. You don't give max contracts to guys who can't create their own shot! It's that simple. We can look at every max contract in the league, and I would venture to say MPJ is probably the worst player of the bunch! He'd be great at 20-25 mill a year. He makes 1 mill less a year than Booker and Towns! Porter is 35th highest paid player in 23-24 season here are the 5 above him and below hm. 30. Ja Morant 31. Darius Garland 32. Brandon Ingram 33. Jamal Murray 34. SGA 35. MPJ 36. Gordon Hayward 37. Donovan Mitchell 38. De'Aron Fox 39. Bam Adebayo 40. Jason Tatum |
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