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Post by Ring on Jul 1, 2024 15:35:41 GMT -5
Bad contract but the most disgusting part about it is MPJ had absolutely no leverage (just like Murray didn't) Would have been an RFA and the Nuggets could match. But they just give out max extensions based off potential now. It's gross. Neither MPJ nor Murray are worth their salary.
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 15:38:32 GMT -5
he does have to go, but unless we hire Suge Knight as assistant GM, we can't force teams to take Zeke. 6 SRP's might have done it, but Calvin burned those moving up a few spots in the draft and dumping Reggie's 5m contract. Don't forget the picks he attached to Bones too. I thought we got picks for bones And then sent them to LA for Bryant |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 15:39:39 GMT -5
Bad contract but the most disgusting part about it is MPJ had absolutely no leverage (just like Murray didn't) Would have been an RFA and the Nuggets could match. But they just give out max extensions based off potential now. It's gross. Neither MPJ nor Murray are worth their salary. Our front office has always just said yes to every agent. Pure desperation. I think it all stems from TCs need to make everyone happy at the teams expense. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 15:41:39 GMT -5
I suspect Calvin, Josh, and Stan have already taken the last first round pick behind the shed and are showing it the beautiful plot it will get in Salary Dump Cemetery along with the dozens of other picks they've used to get off money rather than improve the team in the KSE era.
Listen, we hate it ended this way, but we have no choice but to undo all these decisions we made like four months ago.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 15:42:45 GMT -5
Jamal got his max after the 2019 playoffs when he previewed what kind of playoff performer he would be
MPJ got a max after being invisible against the Suns in the second round because his back folded in like an accordion and he literally couldn't walk upright.
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 15:44:43 GMT -5
Not going to tolerate Jamal slander, man. Don't be a prisoner of the moment. Take me back in time I'd make the same decision and not hesitate, knowing where it leads.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 15:46:56 GMT -5
Not going to tolerate Jamal slander, man. Don't be a prisoner of the moment. Take me back in time I'd make the same decision and not hesitate, knowing where it leads. good thing you weren't on NT after the playoffs ended. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 15:53:01 GMT -5
I remember what it was like after a lethargic January home loss to the Hornets. Didn't have the stomach for that. I did a full NBA blackout until about a week before the draft, and it was glorious.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 15:56:00 GMT -5
Of the Players in the top 40 in pay in the NBA only 4 have never made an all-star team! DEN has two of them!
Jamal Murray, MPJ, CJ Mccollum, Tobias Harris,
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 15:57:51 GMT -5
I quickly scanned, and I only see two of those four in this picture.  |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 16:02:29 GMT -5
Of the Players in the top 40 in pay in the NBA only 4 have never made an all-star team! DEN has two of them! Jamal Murray, MPJ, CJ Mccollum, Tobias Harris, I don't remember Ayton making the team Jamal should've just cried his way in like Rudy Gogurt. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 16:02:50 GMT -5
I quickly scanned, and I only see two of those four in this picture. They're still overpaid! MPJ moreso, but 50% of our issues are directly tied to MPJ's contract. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 16:03:15 GMT -5
Of the Players in the top 40 in pay in the NBA only 4 have never made an all-star team! DEN has two of them! Jamal Murray, MPJ, CJ Mccollum, Tobias Harris, I don't remember Ayton making the team Jamal should've just cried his way in like Rudy Gogurt. Ayton is #41 on list. |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 16:04:22 GMT -5
I don't remember Ayton making the team Jamal should've just cried his way in like Rudy Gogurt. Ayton is #41 on list. lol OK. |
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Post by wicked3line on Jul 1, 2024 16:16:04 GMT -5
Zeke has to go. Way too many bodies at the 4/5 spots when the current list of outgoing players is a PG (presumably to be replaced by Russ) and two wings who are not being replaced at all as you're using their spots on bigs. I don't disagree but do the Clippers really want Zeke's contract? Even with Paul George hitting the road, they still have enough active salary after they signed DJJ that they can't just eat the almost $5 mil difference between Westbrook and Zeke as they'd have to ship somebody back along that they might not want to give up (Amir Coffey). This directs back to needing two of the three 2023 draft picks aggregated together to match salary. Clipps likely would do that deal for a geriatric Westbrook. |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 16:20:34 GMT -5
the one saving grace for the Nuggets is if they like Boneshead and want to try their luck with another one of our reclamation projects.
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 16:21:34 GMT -5
I quickly scanned, and I only see two of those four in this picture. They're still overpaid! MPJ moreso, but 50% of our issues are directly tied to MPJ's contract. It's absolutely a challenge. Sure. They won the title a year ago. This s**t is hard. I fundamentally disagree with having 5 first or second year players taken in the 20s or later on a title chasing team's roster, in addition to a vibes guy in Jordan, and Vlatko who was out for the season. Then you signed Reggie to your MLE when he was unplayable for you a month before you did that and nobody was giving above a minimum (AND A PLAYER OPTION - WHY?). When you have big contracts, you need to execute really well on the margins. They're executing terribly on the margins. Pissing picks away to dump expiring $5m, pissing picks away to take a guy in the 20s. Giving Zeke a nonsensical extension that you may have to piss picks away to dump just months later. Giving Reggie the TPMLE against no competition and a player option against no competition. It's not going to be perfect, but they're leaning way too hard toward late picks, my theory being because Calvin enjoys it, and doesn't enjoy pitching minimum guys on choosing Denver over Phoenix for a million slam dunk reasons (see Bruce Brown and KCP contracts after Jokic). |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 16:26:50 GMT -5
Zeke has to go. Way too many bodies at the 4/5 spots when the current list of outgoing players is a PG (presumably to be replaced by Russ) and two wings who are not being replaced at all as you're using their spots on bigs. I don't disagree but do the Clippers really want Zeke's contract? Even with Paul George hitting the road, they still have enough active salary after they signed DJJ that they can't just eat the almost $5 mil difference between Westbrook and Zeke as they'd have to ship somebody back along that they might not want to give up (Amir Coffey). This directs back to needing two of the three 2023 draft picks aggregated together to match salary. Clipps likely would do that deal for a geriatric Westbrook. I again return to wondering why they salary dumped a measly $5m expiring deal. It's a truly mind-boggling decision. Maybe this all gets wrapped up together - I certain hope so - but if not, would the Clippers not have accepted Reggie and three 2nds for a guy they agreed to part ways with and doesn't appear to have a market? Willing to see how it all plays out as it's a tad unfair mid-process, but the Reggie salary dump and Zeke extension are looking two completely unforced errors that point to a pretty clueless operation. I kind of wonder if this is being held up because they're trying to find a third team to take Zeke. If they give up their last remaining tradeable first to get off Zeke so they can get Russell Westbrook, I can't even express how poorly they will have executed their offseason. |
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Post by bignuggets on Jul 1, 2024 16:28:38 GMT -5
I guessing we’ve signed or traded for someone by now?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 1, 2024 16:30:51 GMT -5
I don't disagree but do the Clippers really want Zeke's contract? Even with Paul George hitting the road, they still have enough active salary after they signed DJJ that they can't just eat the almost $5 mil difference between Westbrook and Zeke as they'd have to ship somebody back along that they might not want to give up (Amir Coffey). This directs back to needing two of the three 2023 draft picks aggregated together to match salary. Clipps likely would do that deal for a geriatric Westbrook. I again return to wondering why they salary dumped a measly $5m expiring deal. It's a truly mind-boggling decision. Maybe this all gets wrapped up together - I certain hope so - but if not, would the Clippers not have accepted Reggie and three 2nds for a guy they agreed to part ways with and doesn't appear to have a market? calvin does look drunk most of the time Kroenke version of Biden |
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