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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 13:43:09 GMT -5
Right after Cuban sold the team he said he'd never sell. Me thinks we've probably reached the TV money peak, and these guys know it. I thought it was interesting the salary cap came in 1 million lower then expected. I don't think we're gonna see the saleable cap increases year to year others think because there's no where else to get more income outside of inflation. |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 14:08:34 GMT -5
Klay to the Mavs 50/3
Nuggets need a win jc
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 14:09:16 GMT -5
OKC,Mavs,Wolves ............................................................................................Denver? Klay to Mavs on 3/50 They lost two decent perimeter defenders and replaced them with the ghost of Klay Thompson? Dallas got worse. They didn't need another aging guy to chuck up shots, they needed a guy who can help cover for the defensive sieves that are Kyrie and Luka. |
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 14:09:38 GMT -5
Klay to the Mavs 50/3 Nuggets need a win jc Horrible, horrible fit. Klay can't cover anybody anymore. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 14:10:52 GMT -5
OKC,Mavs,Wolves ............................................................................................Denver? Klay to Mavs on 3/50 They lost two decent perimeter defenders and replaced them with the ghost of Klay Thompson? Dallas got worse. They didn't need another aging guy to chuck up shots, they needed a guy who can help cover for the defensive sieves that are Kyrie and Luka. I agree 100% didn't feel like he'd be a good fit here and definitely don't see him helping DAL over what DJJ did. On top of fact he's another year older. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 14:14:49 GMT -5
you can't aggregate salaries once you go 2md apron that's a huge negative reason not to go into it. The Nuggets haven't aggregated salaries in two years they've been allowed to. They don't have salaries to aggregate to get to any meaningful number. A $22m KCP salary means you don't have to string together 6 guys to get to $15m. You can trade his salary when you're ready to do so. No aggregation required. We haven't needed to. Itd aggregstion both directions. We need to turn one of our larger contrscts into two contracts. We probably need to trade MPJ in next year or so. It would have to be a straight 1 for 1 if we're in 2nd apron. |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 14:18:11 GMT -5
Where are you getting this from? You can look up each teams salaries. Well hoops hype has the clippers way over the cap And the lakers barely under not counting Lebron |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 14:19:12 GMT -5
Klay to the Mavs 50/3 Nuggets need a win jc Another team over the cap finds a way to shell out $17 million dollar deals. We can’t even sign minimums Nuggets front office is a joke once again We are a play in team folks. Get used to it |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 14:21:48 GMT -5
You can look up each teams salaries. Well hoops hype has the clippers way over the cap And the lakers barely under not counting Lebron Hoops Hype has LAC at 158 mill now. Definitely not way over the cap??? |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 14:22:57 GMT -5
Klay to the Mavs 50/3 Nuggets need a win jc Another team over the cap finds a way to shell out $17 million dollar deals. We can’t even sign minimums Nuggets front office is a joke once again We are a play in team folks. Get used to it They didn't resign DJJ which lowered there cap so that they could get Klay who I would argue isn't as good at this point in his career as DJJ and was cheaper! |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 14:28:30 GMT -5
Klay to the Mavs 50/3 Nuggets need a win jc Another team over the cap finds a way to shell out $17 million dollar deals. We can’t even sign minimums Nuggets front office is a joke once again We are a play in team folks. Get used to it The short answer is this. MPJ is making 35 million. That's more than PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively combined. When we decided to have THREE guys on max deals it makes the rest if the roster a challenge. MPJ is a glorified catch and shoot player who's an average defender and were paying him max money. I'd rather have three other players to round out roster than him. |
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Post by Ring on Jul 1, 2024 14:34:39 GMT -5
I understand your overall point and agree with it but again, the Nuggets lost in the playoffs because of Michael Porter Jr and Jamal Murray. It starts and ends there. Murray against Minnesota - 18/4/4 on 40/33 splits. MPJ against Minnesota - 11/6/1 on 37/33 shooting. You could take the Championship Nuggets team with Bruce and Jeff and they still aren't going to win a series against Minnesota with the 2 "stars" playing that poorly. Losing KCP will not be the difference in winning a Championship or not. If the Nuggets stars perform (no idea why anyone would expect this from MPJ), they'll probably win it all. Playoffs are all about optionality and problem solving. You're willingly reducing the cards you have to play. I'm sure having even fewer functional playoff players will help those two next year as the defense happily concedes shots to anybody else outside of the paint. You can pick out small sample sizes for anybody. I keep reading KCP's shooting splits for the Minnesota series like that's proof he sucks as a shooter or something so Braun will actually be no different. It's silly. Options do help but you're never going to have an option where Murray plays less than 35-40 minutes in a playoff game. MPJ yes but he should be traded anyway. He can't play against physical defenses. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 14:36:02 GMT -5
The Nuggets haven't aggregated salaries in two years they've been allowed to. They don't have salaries to aggregate to get to any meaningful number. A $22m KCP salary means you don't have to string together 6 guys to get to $15m. You can trade his salary when you're ready to do so. No aggregation required. We haven't needed to. Itd aggregstion both directions. We need to turn one of our larger contrscts into two contracts. We probably need to trade MPJ in next year or so. It would have to be a straight 1 for 1 if we're in 2nd apron. Second apron doesn't restrict inbound aggregated salaries. Can trade a large contract for multiple smaller ones just fine. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 14:41:07 GMT -5
Playoffs are all about optionality and problem solving. You're willingly reducing the cards you have to play. I'm sure having even fewer functional playoff players will help those two next year as the defense happily concedes shots to anybody else outside of the paint. You can pick out small sample sizes for anybody. I keep reading KCP's shooting splits for the Minnesota series like that's proof he sucks as a shooter or something so Braun will actually be no different. It's silly. Options do help but you're never going to have an option where Murray plays less than 35-40 minutes in a playoff game. MPJ yes but he should be traded anyway. He can't play against physical defenses. Sure, but my takeaway wasn't "wow Murray is completely gassed and physically worn down they should let KCP walk and not be able to replace his salary slot", it was 1) you don't lose a salary slot you can't replace and 2) be smarter about your bench - way too many projects on a title defending bench. |
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Post by wicked3line on Jul 1, 2024 14:44:52 GMT -5
Right after Cuban sold the team he said he'd never sell. Me thinks we've probably reached the TV money peak, and these guys know it. I thought it was interesting the salary cap came in 1 million lower then expected. I don't think we're gonna see the saleable cap increases year to year others think because there's no where else to get more income outside of inflation. Ummmm, hate to break it to you bud but the cap is about to increase significantly in the next few years! Specifically, apparently you missed the leaks on the next TV deal financials as the NBA will see roughly 2.5-3 times more money after next season compared to the current contract. This will result in the cap rising 10% annually for multiple years (spreads the increase out over several seasons instead of one big jump similar to when Warriors signed KD). |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 14:45:58 GMT -5
Well hoops hype has the clippers way over the cap And the lakers barely under not counting Lebron Hoops Hype has LAC at 158 mill now. Definitely not way over the cap??? I’m confused. You said “ both LA teams are way under the cap” The clippers are over. The lakers will be once Lebron signs |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 14:48:53 GMT -5
Hilarious, if true. I never want to hear for the rest of my life that the Nuggets need the TPMLE. This will be two years in a row they've used it on a guy who is a minimum player. Just use minimums. There's no available free agent center who is much different than Plumlee, who is on a minimum. Saric is a minimum guy.
The argument for having the TPMLE was to catch a player who is better than a minimum, in the vein of Bruce. Maybe sees his market dry up or is willing to give up a little bit to get the value bump of playing with Jokic. That's how you use your TPMLE. On a value contract, not to overpay a minimum because you're too lazy or too bad at pitching guys to choose Jokic basketball nirvana versus the flaming bag of s**t in Phoenix.
This front office is absolutely awful on the margins.
Genuinely wondering why they burned three seconds to dump Reggie? They didn't free up money for anything.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 14:52:31 GMT -5
Russ picked up his PO so he's not a free agent. the Nuggets would have to send a player to LA in a trade if they wish to obtain him.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 14:54:46 GMT -5
Hoops Hype has LAC at 158 mill now. Definitely not way over the cap??? I’m confused. You said “ both LA teams are way under the cap” The clippers are over. The lakers will be once Lebron signs They were both under. LAC was at 121 Mill at beginning of free agency and now is at 158 mill. The first apron is at 171 mill which is when actual penalties start racking up. |
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 14:58:15 GMT -5
Hilarious, if true. I never want to hear for the rest of my life that the Nuggets need the TPMLE. This will be two years in a row they've used it on a guy who is a minimum player. Just use minimums. There's no available free agent center who is much different than Plumlee, who is on a minimum. Saric is a minimum guy. The argument for having the TPMLE was to catch a player who is better than a minimum, in the vein of Bruce. Maybe sees his market dry up or is willing to give up a little bit to get the value bump of playing with Jokic. That's how you use your TPMLE. On a value contract, not to overpay a minimum because you're too lazy or too bad at pitching guys to choose Jokic basketball nirvana versus the flaming bag of s**t in Phoenix. This front office is absolutely awful on the margins. Genuinely wondering why they burned three seconds to dump Reggie? They didn't free up money for anything. So all that about bringing Vlatko back was just fluff according to Wind? 1. Jokic 2. Murray 3. Gordon 4. Porter 5. Braun 6. Watson 7. Strawther 8. Jordan 9. Nnaji 10. Pickett 11. Tyson 12. Strawther 13. Holmes 14. (Westbrook?) 15. (Mystery center?) ---- 16. Hall 17. Alexander 18. (third two way) If we get Westbrook it would have to be via trade, so his phrasing doesn't really make any sense. |
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