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Post by Ring on Jun 30, 2024 14:47:03 GMT -5
No - he said there's 2 spots open, and he was talking about another big man coming in, aside from DAJ. Wind does good reporting. It seemed like a very optimstic note to me, but let's see what happens. Wind reports gossip and what ever generates most views. He knows nuggets fans are starved for hope. Teasing gives hope Yeah I mean I like DNVR but they have absolutely no sources. People probably forget this but Wind also reported Barton was in the AG trade. He doesn't have legitimate sources. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 15:17:58 GMT -5
There is no world where KCP is worth 25M. He's not even worth 20M. He's the 5th role player on a Championship team. Guys like that should be in the 15M range. He's also aging and banged up. Strawther has to take a big jump this offseason. He has to be what we drafted him to be aka a knockdown shooter. No thanks to Micic. No thanks to Reggie. McConnell in a S&T is a pipe dream. If that happens the Nuggets are winning another Championship though. I just don't see any world where Indiana trades him. He's one of their best players. I agree with this, but think Strawther being a “knockdown shooter” is a pipe dream. He’s never been a knockdown shooter at any level. He was a 75% FT shooter in 3 college seasons and only shot 40%+ on threes in one of three college seasons playing in a very weak West Coast Conference (against the likes of Univ. of Portland, St. Mary’s, Pepperdine, Univ. of the Pacific, U of SF). You wanna get a “knockdown shooter?” Go get a guy like Sam Hauser (who was undrafted), who in 4 seasons in the Big East and the ACC shot 88% on FTs and 44% on threes (704 attempts). That’s the resume of a knockdown shooter. I like Strawther’s feel for the game, but his shot ain’t that great and Nuggets’ fans shouldn’t have the wrong idea about the guy. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 15:37:04 GMT -5
Wind reports gossip and what ever generates most views. He knows nuggets fans are starved for hope. Teasing gives hope Yeah I mean I like DNVR but they have absolutely no sources. People probably forget this but Wind also reported Barton was in the AG trade. He doesn't have legitimate sources. I disagree. First, guys don’t come out of the womb with sources — it’s something built up over time. Guys get better at it with experience if they earn the trust of people and stick with the job and do a good job of finessing the reporting part (which seems legitimately difficult to me). Wind was a rookie a few years ago (with the likes of Woj, that was 30 years ago) and now he has a few years under his belt. I wouldn’t expect him to have scoops left and right. Second, the thing I mentioned is entirely different than prognosticating about a trade. Re-signing Gillespie was entirely within the Nuggets’ control — if they chose to extend a qualifying offer to him he would have been a restricted free agent. That was a decision entirely with the control of the Nuggets. Notwithstanding that Malone trusted Gillespie some (unlike Pickett), the Nuggets’ front office didn’t like him as a longer term answer and Wind was correct about that. It conflicted with what we saw — that he was playing over Pickett — so reporting that would have required some FO source who would have been willing to talk to Wind about it and give a green light for Wind to mention it (as I’m sure that’s an important aspect of earning the trust of these people). To be Mr. Obvious, trades are a moving target involving negotiations with other teams and sometimes even input from players or their agents. Most proposed deals don’t get done at all and the ones that do get done wind up changing during negotiations. |
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Post by Ring on Jun 30, 2024 15:37:49 GMT -5
There is no world where KCP is worth 25M. He's not even worth 20M. He's the 5th role player on a Championship team. Guys like that should be in the 15M range. He's also aging and banged up. Strawther has to take a big jump this offseason. He has to be what we drafted him to be aka a knockdown shooter. No thanks to Micic. No thanks to Reggie. McConnell in a S&T is a pipe dream. If that happens the Nuggets are winning another Championship though. I just don't see any world where Indiana trades him. He's one of their best players. I agree with this, but think Strawther being a “knockdown shooter” is a pipe dream. He’s never been a knockdown shooter at any level. He was a 75% FT shooter in 3 college seasons and only shot 40%+ on threes in one of three college seasons playing in a very weak West Coast Conference (against the likes of Univ. of Portland, St. Mary’s, Pepperdine, Univ. of the Pacific, U of SF). You wanna get a “knockdown shooter?” Go get a guy like Sam Hauser (who was undrafted), who in 4 seasons in the Big East and the ACC shot 88% on FTs and 44% on threes (704 attempts). That’s the resume of a knockdown shooter. I like Strawther’s feel for the game, but his shot ain’t that great and Nuggets’ fans shouldn’t have the wrong idea about the guy. If that's the case then realistically he has no path to making it in the NBA and would be another terrible pick by Calvin. Nuggets desperately need a knock down shooter off the bench. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 15:50:19 GMT -5
I agree with this, but think Strawther being a “knockdown shooter” is a pipe dream. He’s never been a knockdown shooter at any level. He was a 75% FT shooter in 3 college seasons and only shot 40%+ on threes in one of three college seasons playing in a very weak West Coast Conference (against the likes of Univ. of Portland, St. Mary’s, Pepperdine, Univ. of the Pacific, U of SF). You wanna get a “knockdown shooter?” Go get a guy like Sam Hauser (who was undrafted), who in 4 seasons in the Big East and the ACC shot 88% on FTs and 44% on threes (704 attempts). That’s the resume of a knockdown shooter. I like Strawther’s feel for the game, but his shot ain’t that great and Nuggets’ fans shouldn’t have the wrong idea about the guy. If that's the case then realistically he has no path to making it in the NBA and would be another terrible pick by Calvin. Nuggets desperately need a knock down shooter off the bench. It also wouldn't be a bad thing if they got a couple of half-ass shooters instead of Gordon and Porter, who would have trouble scoring with a 8 foot rim. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 15:52:51 GMT -5
Strawther was a 29th pick, drafted ahead of Kobe Brown, a 24 year old who only played in garbage time for the Clippers last season, and James Nnaji, who is playing in Spain, etc. etc. etc.
You draft a few of these guys hoping that one of them becomes a contributor.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jun 30, 2024 15:55:13 GMT -5
I agree with this, but think Strawther being a “knockdown shooter” is a pipe dream. He’s never been a knockdown shooter at any level. He was a 75% FT shooter in 3 college seasons and only shot 40%+ on threes in one of three college seasons playing in a very weak West Coast Conference (against the likes of Univ. of Portland, St. Mary’s, Pepperdine, Univ. of the Pacific, U of SF). You wanna get a “knockdown shooter?” Go get a guy like Sam Hauser (who was undrafted), who in 4 seasons in the Big East and the ACC shot 88% on FTs and 44% on threes (704 attempts). That’s the resume of a knockdown shooter. I like Strawther’s feel for the game, but his shot ain’t that great and Nuggets’ fans shouldn’t have the wrong idea about the guy. If that's the case then realistically he has no path to making it in the NBA and would be another terrible pick by Calvin. Nuggets desperately need a knock down shooter off the bench. Most of the analysts thought he was a reach on draft night unfortunately. |
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Post by passtheballquick on Jun 30, 2024 16:06:50 GMT -5
I don’t agree. Wind seems to have legit off the record sources within the Nuggets’ organization and it doesn’t surprise me, because he’s circumspect and doesn’t brag about sources or jump the gun on any reporting the team wouldn’t want leaked in advance or write/say anything to embarrass the organization. He said early last season — at least 6 months ago — that Gillespie was not in their future plans despite playing ahead of Pickett last season, and he was 100% correct about that. Lots of folks here and elsewhere in Nuggets fan circles didn’t like it and didn’t understand it then or now, but Wind had accurate information. And there was nothing gossipy or juicy or teasing or click-baitish about that information. Well Wind is so active spreading rumors he will be right some times. He is wrong way more often. And if he had strong ties to the FO he wouldnt have to be wrong. And regarding Gilespie, if that actually was the case and that Booth had already decided Gilespie was gone, no matter how he preformed and despite Malone prefering him. Then Booth is ever worse than i thought. Either he or Malone needs to go. That is going to happen at the end of this season after another collapse |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 17:00:04 GMT -5
Well Wind is so active spreading rumors he will be right some times. He is wrong way more often. And if he had strong ties to the FO he wouldnt have to be wrong. And regarding Gilespie, if that actually was the case and that Booth had already decided Gilespie was gone, no matter how he preformed and despite Malone prefering him. Then Booth is ever worse than i thought. Either he or Malone needs to go. You are just obsessed with bashing people. Observers of the NBA know that just because the Nuggets are interested in a guy or might have a potential trade conversation with a team doesn’t mean that particular guy/deal will happen. The vast majority do not because there are 29 other teams. It doesn’t mean a reporter is spreading falsehoods. Know the difference. I liked the first sentence, the rest is just mumbojumbo Means nothing. But Windy makes a living of engagement and his trackrecord isn’t impressive |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 17:02:32 GMT -5
I agree with this, but think Strawther being a “knockdown shooter” is a pipe dream. He’s never been a knockdown shooter at any level. He was a 75% FT shooter in 3 college seasons and only shot 40%+ on threes in one of three college seasons playing in a very weak West Coast Conference (against the likes of Univ. of Portland, St. Mary’s, Pepperdine, Univ. of the Pacific, U of SF). You wanna get a “knockdown shooter?” Go get a guy like Sam Hauser (who was undrafted), who in 4 seasons in the Big East and the ACC shot 88% on FTs and 44% on threes (704 attempts). That’s the resume of a knockdown shooter. I like Strawther’s feel for the game, but his shot ain’t that great and Nuggets’ fans shouldn’t have the wrong idea about the guy. If that's the case then realistically he has no path to making it in the NBA and would be another terrible pick by Calvin. Nuggets desperately need a knock down shooter off the bench. if Calvin was a MUCH better drafter this whole plan of his could have worked. There is time for them to improve, but I am was more patient when Jokic was 25 |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 17:04:08 GMT -5
You draft a few of these guys hoping that one of them becomes a contributor. Not when you rely on them to replace every proven role player lol |
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Post by JB on Jun 30, 2024 17:15:20 GMT -5
all Calvin had to do was trade up for arguably the most NBA-ready player of the draft, Jamie Jaquez and he would've looked like a genius. Malone would have fell in love with him on day one, the Lakers would have just taken the future FRP we traded to OKC and let us swap picks. they care more about trade bait than developing Jalen Hood-Schifino, who will probably be cut before his rookie contract expires.
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 30, 2024 17:37:49 GMT -5
There is no world where KCP is worth 25M. He's not even worth 20M. He's the 5th role player on a Championship team. Guys like that should be in the 15M range. He's also aging and banged up Not sure how this is shocking as Bruce Brown got $23 mil/year as a bench player! Not saying I think either are worth $23-25 mil/year but that is the going rate in free agency nowadays! |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 17:54:08 GMT -5
all Calvin had to do was trade up for arguably the most NBA-ready player of the draft, Jamie Jaquez and he would've looked like a genius. Malone would have fell in love with him on day one, the Lakers would have just taken the future FRP we traded to OKC and let us swap picks. they care more about trade bait than developing Jalen Hood-Schifino, who will probably be cut before his rookie contract expires. That would have been great, but we have no idea which teams in the teens were interested in trading out, and for what. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 17:59:32 GMT -5
If that's the case then realistically he has no path to making it in the NBA and would be another terrible pick by Calvin. Nuggets desperately need a knock down shooter off the bench. if Calvin was a MUCH better drafter this whole plan of his could have worked. Fortunately, the Nuggets don’t have a 1 person front office. The current version of the FO with Booth answering to Josh Kroenke has hit on both Braun and Watson in the 20’s, which is really damn good. Bones is quite talented too, and it just remains to be seen whether he maximizes his talent. Some team may make a “2nd draft” deal with the Clippers and come away with a very good player. To be honest, I have more criticisms of the drafting in some earlier years, like when they drafted Nnaji rather than Bane, who was a truly elite college three point shooter. |
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Post by aussie on Jun 30, 2024 17:59:50 GMT -5
Just read that Philly are looking to sign both KCP and PG. Instant threat in the East and overall if they pull that off.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Jun 30, 2024 18:00:57 GMT -5
Rumors about the Nuggets and Westbrook having mutual interest. Not sure how to feel about that.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 18:02:55 GMT -5
Anything to keep Pickett away from the floor
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Post by aussie on Jun 30, 2024 18:03:12 GMT -5
Rumors about the Nuggets and Westbrook having mutual interest. Not sure how to feel about that. Just read that too! In two minds also re fitting in culturally and trying to overplay his hand. Upgrade on Reggie though.. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 18:03:29 GMT -5
Just read that Philly are looking to sign both KCP and PG. Instant threat in the East and overall if they pull that off. You hear this every time Philly makes a move lol |
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