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Post by wicked3line on Jun 30, 2024 10:38:11 GMT -5
I like Micic and I probably watched more Micic's games than 99% of NT but to expect him to be better and contribute more than RJ is ridiculous. I didn't like Reggie's fit in Denver but he's a better player than Micic Not convinced the goal was to improve over Reggie but rather move him for cap space relief and then potentially swap Zeke for a serviceable vet backup PG. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 10:49:28 GMT -5
The two most important signings this offseason IMO are the backup 1 and 5. Jamal and Joker need some rest respectively throughout the season, point in case game 7 against the Wolves where we just died from exhaustion. Forget KCP, those two are our most important pieces. Malone also needs to harden the f*ck up and tell Jamal to sit when there's question marks over his health. As many others have stated on here, go into the playoffs as a 4 seed but fully healthy and rested, we've got as good a chance as any. Died from exhaustion? These are prime athletes in the peak of their careers and they can't manage to play 30-35 minutes of basketball every two days? Exhaustion ain't no excuse. Not having any decent backups and no bench are much better explanations of their collapse. It wasn't even a choke because in order to be a choke a team has to be a favorite and with their subs and the inconsistent Porter and Gordon they sure weren't favorites. What was Porter and Gordon's combined scoring in games 6 and 7? 20 points? I ain't gonna take the time to look it up because whatever the real number is, it will be pitiful and explain why they lost both games. Face it, the loss of the series to the Wolves was the beginning of the demise of the Nuggets. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 10:51:15 GMT -5
Why are people saying “yikes” and sweating it out right now? Fami, relax, we are in third inning of offseason. Wait 18 more hours, at least! I just don't foresee anybody giving us anything of value for the likes of Zeke, Pickett, or Tyson. I don't believe any of them will ever be rotation caliber NBA guys. It's a colossal mistake to go into the season with Zeke and DJ again. It shows we learned absolutely nothing. Zeke, Pickett and Tyson?  ? What the hell---- is that a restaurant in Denver? Or a local heating and cooling installation outfit? |
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Post by JB on Jun 30, 2024 11:30:07 GMT -5
Pacers are interested in KCP, but need a s&t to get him.
McConnell and a FRP seems like fair value for both sides.
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 11:36:42 GMT -5
Wind reports gossip and what ever generates most views. He knows nuggets fans are starved for hope. Teasing gives hope I don’t agree. Wind seems to have legit off the record sources within the Nuggets’ organization and it doesn’t surprise me, because he’s circumspect and doesn’t brag about sources or jump the gun on any reporting the team wouldn’t want leaked in advance or write/say anything to embarrass the organization. He said early last season — at least 6 months ago — that Gillespie was not in their future plans despite playing ahead of Pickett last season, and he was 100% correct about that. Lots of folks here and elsewhere in Nuggets fan circles didn’t like it and didn’t understand it then or now, but Wind had accurate information. And there was nothing gossipy or juicy or teasing or click-baitish about that information. |
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Post by famicommander on Jun 30, 2024 11:40:56 GMT -5
It's comical that you think Bryant would even have seen the court in the WCF Bryant was the Lakers' best bench player. Great rebounder, great low post scorer. Dude is bigger than AG and Jeff - had he been on the Lakers, that would have created bad matchup problems in the second unit. Remember - 3 of those 4 wins against the Lakers went to the final 5 mins. Bryant got big mins with us the moment he arrived, but literally forgot how to score. Fami, you watch plenty of LAX, WNBA and other non-consequential team sports (even the Rockies - lol). I live in LA and keep an eye on the LA teams. Bryant could ball. For whatever reason, it's like the mon-stars stole his powers the moment he got to Denver. Nonetheless - removing him off the Lakers roster was a big reason we beat the Lakers in a sweep (allowing for great rest before the Finals). Absolute nonsense. Bryant doesn't even get off the bench if he's still on that Lakers squad. He couldn't even get off the bench in Miami this year. He wouldn't have made a singular lick of difference in any playoff series and that's why he got traded for Davon Reed and picks. Bryant is and has always been a scrub and acquiring him was completely irrelevant. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 11:44:36 GMT -5
Pacers are interested in KCP, but need a s&t to get him. McConnell and a FRP seems like fair value for both sides. That would be great but it would seem very odd for the Pacers to trade McConnell after he just had a great season and post-season for them and it was their most successful season in what seems like 50 years. He seems like a fan favorite and a chemistry guy and all that in addition to his important on-court role. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 11:47:55 GMT -5
Lothar tells me one thing, scooter another, when will the Zeke deal be anounced?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 11:51:20 GMT -5
Wind reports gossip and what ever generates most views. He knows nuggets fans are starved for hope. Teasing gives hope I don’t agree. Wind seems to have legit off the record sources within the Nuggets’ organization and it doesn’t surprise me, because he’s circumspect and doesn’t brag about sources or jump the gun on any reporting the team wouldn’t want leaked in advance or write/say anything to embarrass the organization. He said early last season — at least 6 months ago — that Gillespie was not in their future plans despite playing ahead of Pickett last season, and he was 100% correct about that. Lots of folks here and elsewhere in Nuggets fan circles didn’t like it and didn’t understand it then or now, but Wind had accurate information. And there was nothing gossipy or juicy or teasing or click-baitish about that information. Well Wind is so active spreading rumors he will be right some times. He is wrong way more often. And if he had strong ties to the FO he wouldnt have to be wrong. And regarding Gilespie, if that actually was the case and that Booth had already decided Gilespie was gone, no matter how he preformed and despite Malone prefering him. Then Booth is ever worse than i thought. Either he or Malone needs to go. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 11:54:51 GMT -5
Pacers are interested in KCP, but need a s&t to get him. McConnell and a FRP seems like fair value for both sides. They can combine PTE with McConnell to make salaries match? |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 12:14:18 GMT -5
I sure hope Calvin has more in mind than just DJ for back up Center. I have a feeling Moach is going to run Holmes at the back up 5 even tho Calvin clearly sees him as a 4. Nnaji may or may not be traded in a few days,either way, he is not a Center as well. Literally just Jokic and an aging Jordan right now (PJ Hall obviously won't play much); Don't know what to make of it. He can say Holmes is a forward all he wants but if Booth brings back both Nnaji and Cancar, what the hell else are we supposed to do if not play Holmes at C? Like a lot of Nuggets’ fans, Booth seems a bit stuck in the past about this. IMO, the bigger difference between NCAA basketball and the NBA isn’t size, it’s speed and court spacing. That’s why you don’t see many big slow non-shooting old school centers logging big minutes. Holmes has more functional basketball size (standing reach and wingspan and in some cases muscle) than all of the following guys who have played center recently in the NBA: Nnaji, Draymond, Horford, Tillman, T. Thompson, Powell, Gibson, Saric, Looney, J. Collins, Sengun, Toppin, Plumlee, Theis, Aldama, Clarke, Portis, Bagley, Achiuwa, Holmgren, J. Williams, Muscala, Reed, Eubanks, Sabonis (he skipped draft measurements), Olynyk. Folks in Nuggets circles just have a bad taste left over from watching Nnaji play. Maybe watch more of Adebayo, who is about the same size as Holmes. If his shot is good, maybe he plays some PF in certain matchup situations, but I don’t see why he can’t play C in the NBA and think that’s probably his more natural position in this much faster league. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 12:18:29 GMT -5
I don’t agree. Wind seems to have legit off the record sources within the Nuggets’ organization and it doesn’t surprise me, because he’s circumspect and doesn’t brag about sources or jump the gun on any reporting the team wouldn’t want leaked in advance or write/say anything to embarrass the organization. He said early last season — at least 6 months ago — that Gillespie was not in their future plans despite playing ahead of Pickett last season, and he was 100% correct about that. Lots of folks here and elsewhere in Nuggets fan circles didn’t like it and didn’t understand it then or now, but Wind had accurate information. And there was nothing gossipy or juicy or teasing or click-baitish about that information. Well Wind is so active spreading rumors he will be right some times. He is wrong way more often. And if he had strong ties to the FO he wouldnt have to be wrong. And regarding Gilespie, if that actually was the case and that Booth had already decided Gilespie was gone, no matter how he preformed and despite Malone prefering him. Then Booth is ever worse than i thought. Either he or Malone needs to go. You are just obsessed with bashing people. Observers of the NBA know that just because the Nuggets are interested in a guy or might have a potential trade conversation with a team doesn’t mean that particular guy/deal will happen. The vast majority do not because there are 29 other teams. It doesn’t mean a reporter is spreading falsehoods. Know the difference. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 12:22:33 GMT -5
Lothar tells me one thing, scooter another, when will the Zeke deal be anounced? I’m not “telling” anything because I don’t have any inside information. I just have some knowledge of what may be possible and what might interest the Nuggets. Its entirely possible that right now the Nuggets can’t find a team interested in taking Nnaji without a sweetener the Nuggets don’t want to include, as in Strawther (who I am far from sold on) or Watson, or without sending back a contract the Nuggets don’t want. That would be bad, but its definitely possible. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 12:28:56 GMT -5
The two most important signings this offseason IMO are the backup 1 and 5. Jamal and Joker need some rest respectively throughout the season, point in case game 7 against the Wolves where we just died from exhaustion. Forget KCP, those two are our most important pieces. Malone also needs to harden the f*ck up and tell Jamal to sit when there's question marks over his health. As many others have stated on here, go into the playoffs as a 4 seed but fully healthy and rested, we've got as good a chance as any. Died from exhaustion? These are prime athletes in the peak of their careers and they can't manage to play 30-35 minutes of basketball every two days? Exhaustion ain't no excuse. Not having any decent backups and no bench are much better explanations of their collapse. It wasn't even a choke because in order to be a choke a team has to be a favorite and with their subs and the inconsistent Porter and Gordon they sure weren't favorites. What was Porter and Gordon's combined scoring in games 6 and 7? 20 points? I ain't gonna take the time to look it up because whatever the real number is, it will be pitiful and explain why they lost both games. Face it, the loss of the series to the Wolves was the beginning of the demise of the Nuggets. OK, I got real curious and did look up Porter's and Gordon's combined contributions in games 6 and 7 of the Wolve series. They scored a total of 31 points in the two games-----that is the total for both of them, not each of them. This 31 points includes a total of 11 points from the two of them in game 7. Yes, I got that right------11 points in a game 7 from two supposedly prime players. The inability of those two clowns to score more than 11 points in a game 7 goes a long way in explaining why this team ain't going anywhere in the coming years. Those two guys are ok, from time to time, but they are not guys to rely on when points are needed. It is time to start the rebuild. Or, simply rely on Jokic and Murray for 90% of your scoring except that they can't do that because they will die again from "exhaustion". Talk about having zero options to improve this depleted franchise. |
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Post by rock on Jun 30, 2024 12:35:52 GMT -5
When can part two of the Reggie/Micic trade happen? Because i think that whole idea is insane. And if it was pre-planned it will be announced the second it can I heard july 1 I’m hoping the rumor is true. |
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Post by rock on Jun 30, 2024 12:37:33 GMT -5
I like Micic and I probably watched more Micic's games than 99% of NT but to expect him to be better and contribute more than RJ is ridiculous. I didn't like Reggie's fit in Denver but he's a better player than Micic Really? He’s that bad? |
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Post by nuggets77 on Jun 30, 2024 13:42:06 GMT -5
With Russel Westbrook opting in to his 4 million dollar deal, my guess he is going to the Nuggets for Zeke? Rather have than Micic?
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Post by JB on Jun 30, 2024 14:15:01 GMT -5
looks like the Magic are going to offer KCP 100/4 or something approximate
there are too many damn teams in the NBA with money to burn diluting the product. and Nosferatu wants to expand the league so the St Louis Flyovers can give AG a max contract. f***ing hell.
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 14:37:55 GMT -5
looks like the Magic are going to offer KCP 100/4 or something approximate there are too many damn teams in the NBA with money to burn diluting the product. and Nosferatu wants to expand the league so the St Louis Flyovers can give AG a max contract. f***ing hell. If he’s cashing in, I’d prefer it to be in the east. It’s just better for the east to have at least a few good players and not all of them to be in the west. Maybe the Magic can become a legitimately good team so there are more than 2 in the east. |
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Post by Ring on Jun 30, 2024 14:45:22 GMT -5
There is no world where KCP is worth 25M. He's not even worth 20M. He's the 5th role player on a Championship team. Guys like that should be in the 15M range. He's also aging and banged up.
Strawther has to take a big jump this offseason. He has to be what we drafted him to be aka a knockdown shooter.
No thanks to Micic. No thanks to Reggie.
McConnell in a S&T is a pipe dream. If that happens the Nuggets are winning another Championship though. I just don't see any world where Indiana trades him. He's one of their best players.
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? What the hell---- is that a restaurant in Denver? Or a local heating and cooling installation outfit? 
