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Post by BBBbbb on Jun 29, 2024 11:05:53 GMT -5
Exactly how many picks did Bones/Reggie cost us? 4? 5 don't forget we used one to draft Bones
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Post by scooter on Jun 29, 2024 11:17:36 GMT -5
CG will make the NBA and have a career. Too bad it isn't here. Wouldn't it be nice to have him on the current team? Just an utter disaster to give Pickett and Tyson 3 years guaranteed with a team option right off the bat. Should've signed them both to two-ways last year, then we could cut them this year with no penalty I don’t think the idea was anything crazy, although I always thought that Pickett, Strawther (he’s really no different in my mind although the Nuggets had no contract option with him) and Tyson was just one too many on a contender. It’s not that unusual for teams to sign undrafted free agents — US and international — to roster contracts. The TWolves did with Reid, the Raptors did with Terence Davis (who was on the Nuggets’ summer league team at the time), the Celtics did with Max Strus (who they waived before he caught on with the Heat), and there are lots of players with no NBA experience playing in overseas leagues, like Kleber and Theis and lots of other guys. On July 6, 2023, the Warriors signed 57th pick Trayce Jackson-Davis to a 3+1 guaranteed contract. The Nuggets were not the only team doing this last summer. And we know that the Nuggets’ FO knew what was coming with the CBA and made a decision to do it with Pickett and Tyson rather than have 2 more Justin Holidays. They didn’t know Cancar would tear his ACL a couple of weeks later. That immediately threw a monkey wrench into their strategy for last season. A thing about these guys — in addition to their cheap salaries on their current deals — is the Nuggets (like the Warriors with TJD) will have Bird rights they wouldn’t have with short term veteran contracts. So if any of them become regular rotation level players, the Nuggets will have an opportunity to keep them longer term than any signed bench vet. Neither Pickett nor Tyson contributed last season the way Jackson-Davis did for the Warriors. That was possibly a talent evaluation error (we’ll see more going forward), but it wasn’t a contract signing strategy thing. I feel differently about the Nnaji extension. The team had had 3+ years with Nnaji and I thought that was plenty to see that he wasn’t much of a player and didn’t have the confidence of his coach and probably his teammates as well, and isn’t really a chemistry guy either. It seemed obvious that the extension was designed to be a trade asset rather than a “this player is part of our longer term core” thing, and that seemed too much like trying to game the system. You can waive Pickett or Tyson and it doesn’t cost much in terms of either cash or cap hit. The same is not true of Nnaji. I still suspect Nnaji is about to be traded to Charlotte for Micic and that the RJ deal was just part I of that, but Micic is probably overpaid and I don’t know if he’s any good, and the Nuggets will have had to attach assets to Nnaji to move him and get off his deal, which would not have been the case without the extension. |
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Post by JB on Jun 29, 2024 11:32:51 GMT -5
isn't Micic basically a 6'5 Facu? only he can't defend and Facu would be an elite defender at that height.
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Post by scooter on Jun 29, 2024 12:00:24 GMT -5
isn't Micic basically a 6'5 Facu? only he can't defend and Facu would be an elite defender at that height. I have no idea. He seems like a standard biggish, slowish Serbian point guard (the Serbs seem to weed out from their system anyone who isn’t at least 6’4”). I’ve never seen him play, other than the one minute of highlights I watched yesterday. He’s probably not good at the NBA level (although probably more playable than Pickett about whom I am still very skeptical) but I’ve thought for a couple of months that that deal may be coming because the Nuggets have to trade Nnaji somewhere, and the salaries are in the same group, and Nnaji became a negative asset last season after the extension put him at $8.9 mil for next season and he was still lousy. |
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Post by Dante on Jun 29, 2024 13:19:52 GMT -5
I would prefer Brogdon over both Micic or Dennis sie German, but Brogdon is making 22.5 million (last year of his deal). I doubt that we can/should make a package to trade for him and i doubt that his #1 destination on buyout would be Denver. So, maybe getting Micic to run our 2nd unit together with Pickett for the season (while getting off Zeke's contract) should be fine and in case that none of them are able to lead our 2nd unit, we can pursue Brogdon at buyout market and cut Micic (since he is in his last year as well + team option for next).
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 29, 2024 14:01:42 GMT -5
Why does Charlotte want Zeke?
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Post by famicommander on Jun 29, 2024 14:06:24 GMT -5
Kevin Love opted out of his deal with the Heat. Would love to have him here instead of DJ.
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Post by Dante on Jun 29, 2024 14:16:38 GMT -5
Why does Charlotte want Zeke? Why does any NBA team want Zeke? |
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Post by rock on Jun 29, 2024 14:37:59 GMT -5
Why does Charlotte want Zeke? Possibly part of the Reggie deal. Just in two separate parts |
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Post by GBG on Jun 29, 2024 14:44:21 GMT -5
Why does Charlotte want Zeke? Possibly part of the Reggie deal. Just in two separate parts Most likely, I think Calvin was hedging his bets and told Charlotte he needed to trade both of them separately in case he finds a way to keep KCP, which would prevent him from combining salaries due to second apron. So trade Reggie in one fiscal year, and trade Zeke in the other. The price for that from Charlotte was the three second round picks. It’s sorta like people working in Portland area who choose to live in Vancouver, Washington to avoid paying state income tax. Straddling two tax jurisdictions. If that makes any sense. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 29, 2024 15:16:13 GMT -5
Why does Charlotte want Zeke? They are a rebuilding team and somebody has to play, and there is still a team minimum salary, and Nnaji is still only 23 so its possible he improves in a lower pressure environment, and his contract has a declining salary so it’s easily moveable in future years if they want to do that, and it doesn’t make sense for them to have Micic so they kinda need to move him somewhere, and they got a few 2nds if this is the package deal that GBG and I suspect. What I’m really hoping for (although its definitely just hope) is that the Nuggets are also getting Nick Richards while sending one of our other young guys to Charlotte. |
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Post by duh88 on Jun 29, 2024 16:16:14 GMT -5
Charlotte doesn’t want Zeke; they want draft picks - Zeke is a negative value in that trade.
Regarding bones -
We got 3 seconds for bones. We sent those 3 seconds to LAL for bryant. That was a great trade, because it took Bryant out of the WCF for LAL.
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Post by JB on Jun 29, 2024 16:30:48 GMT -5
Nugget legend Evan Fournier has officially hit the market.
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Post by famicommander on Jun 29, 2024 16:31:11 GMT -5
It's comical that you think Bryant would even have seen the court in the WCF
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jun 29, 2024 16:44:38 GMT -5
Nugget legend Evan Fournier has officially hit the market. Fun story: Fournier used to be my fav player when he was a rookie, first time I ever went to Denver. I did the Pepsi Center tour and was the only one with my Buddy so we were lucky to get to the practice floor. Now I saw Nate Robinson and then the tour guide asked me who’s my fav player and who I want a picture with. I said Evan Fournier… then they got back with Jan f***ing Vesely… |
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jun 29, 2024 16:45:48 GMT -5
Fournier is going back to Europe tho
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Post by rock on Jun 29, 2024 16:47:12 GMT -5
Charlotte doesn’t want Zeke; they want draft picks - Zeke is a negative value in that trade. Regarding bones - We got 3 seconds for bones. We sent those 3 seconds to LAL for bryant. That was a great trade, because it took Bryant out of the WCF for LAL. Is it possible the overall deal is Zeke, Reggie and 3 SRPs for mijic? |
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Post by scooter on Jun 29, 2024 16:50:23 GMT -5
Charlotte doesn’t want Zeke; they want draft picks - Zeke is a negative value in that trade. My take is that was the 3 2nds they sent with Reggie so it was actually Reggie + Zeke + the picks for Micic. But I’m not even sure what actually works under the CBA, so its all just speculation. |
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Post by rock on Jun 29, 2024 17:08:31 GMT -5
Considering Dallas sent 3 SRPs to dump $18 million I hope our Charlotte deal is bigger than just dumping Reggie
Otherwise our front office is just beyond incompetent. Once again.
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Post by nuggets77 on Jun 29, 2024 17:48:46 GMT -5
Considering Dallas sent 3 SRPs to dump $18 million I hope our Charlotte deal is bigger than just dumping Reggie Otherwise our front office is just beyond incompetent. Once again. [/quote Reggie wasn't that bad, so if the nuggets got rid of him and had to give up draft pics also! your damn right it better be a part of a incoming deal! We need a point and gave up Reggie and don't draft one and got rid of CG. |
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