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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 20:46:40 GMT -5
Gillespie is gone. Damn. I liked him actually sad about this. Facu Gillespie was a great third PG to have on the roster. |
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 21:09:53 GMT -5
perhaps the Nuggets should not chase Klay and other glamour options and just offer the full MLE to Gary Trent jr, the exact opposite of a sexy same. GTJ is shooting 52% on wide open 3s (!!) and isn't a lost cause defensively if put in the right position and coached properly.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Jun 28, 2024 21:17:55 GMT -5
the Nuggets won't have the full MLE, just the TPMLE. We can offer about $5m x 2 years, not $13m x 4 years.
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 21:29:23 GMT -5
the Nuggets won't have the full MLE, just the TPMLE. We can offer about $5m x 2 years, not $13m x 4 years. I swear we are the only team that has these limitations. I don’t hear about any other teams not being able to keep players or sign anyone. So glad we got our one title |
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Post by TNF on Jun 28, 2024 21:31:27 GMT -5
CG will make the NBA and have a career. Too bad it isn't here. Wouldn't it be nice to have him on the current team?
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 21:35:54 GMT -5
the Nuggets won't have the full MLE, just the TPMLE. We can offer about $5m x 2 years, not $13m x 4 years. that's unfortunate. a NT capologist from earlier said KCP leaving would put the Nuggets under the 1st apron and thus making the full MLE available to us. |
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Post by famicommander on Jun 28, 2024 21:39:07 GMT -5
CG will make the NBA and have a career. Too bad it isn't here. Wouldn't it be nice to have him on the current team? Just an utter disaster to give Pickett and Tyson 3 years guaranteed with a team option right off the bat. Should've signed them both to two-ways last year, then we could cut them this year with no penalty |
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Jun 28, 2024 22:11:29 GMT -5
the Nuggets won't have the full MLE, just the TPMLE. We can offer about $5m x 2 years, not $13m x 4 years. that's unfortunate. a NT capologist from earlier said KCP leaving would put the Nuggets under the 1st apron and thus making the full MLE available to us. He was mistaken. I broke it down in a followup comment. In short, you have to remain under the first apron *for the full year* in order to use the MLE, and if we used the entire MLE it'd take us back over the first apron. If we had KCP leave and traded Zeke for nothing, we could get to 14m combined for MLE + a couple of minimum slots, which would mean a usable partial MLE of about 9-10m which is the same amount as a Zeke trade exception would be worth. If we don't move Zeke for nothing, we'd have less than the TPMLE amount, so we'd have to stick to the TPMLE anyway. |
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Post by GBG on Jun 28, 2024 22:39:39 GMT -5
Hard to catch up to all the comments. So hard, that I’ve lost sleep doing it.
The Klay tweet from earlier was a fake according to Blackburn. We won’t be able to sign him.
Micic for Zeke is our best hope.
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Post by duh88 on Jun 28, 2024 22:59:03 GMT -5
Regarding PG13 -
I think Calvin’s plan is to unload mpj, have PG for a year -
And then try to target Lauri or Brandon Ingram with a max.
If Gordon resigns for $30m, the math starts to get tough (even with the second apron going to around $197m). If Gordon comes back for $25m, then the above is manageable.
The clippers are about to open Intuit arena so they want to make a splash. I do think the clips will come back tho, because we actually have a handful of decent promising young players (Braun, pwat, straw, Holmes).
Personally tho -
I think I’d rather keep mpj at $40m, which basically guarantees that AG comes back, with cap room to keep a decent bench in place.
Also -
We’re telling the media that we won’t help kcp to Dallas because we want assets. Dallas needs to cough up some pics - then booth will be happy to engage. Kcp at age 33 isn’t going to be Dallas’s “final” infinity stone.
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 29, 2024 0:15:57 GMT -5
that's unfortunate. a NT capologist from earlier said KCP leaving would put the Nuggets under the 1st apron and thus making the full MLE available to us. He was mistaken. I broke it down in a followup comment. In short, you have to remain under the first apron *for the full year* in order to use the MLE, and if we used the entire MLE it'd take us back over the first apron. If we had KCP leave and traded Zeke for nothing, we could get to 14m combined for MLE + a couple of minimum slots, which would mean a usable partial MLE of about 9-10m which is the same amount as a Zeke trade exception would be worth. If we don't move Zeke for nothing, we'd have less than the TPMLE amount, so we'd have to stick to the TPMLE anyway. Ah yes, good catch as I forgot the team using the full MLE can't exceed the first apron. That wouldn't leave Calvin much more than the tax payer MLE anyway. Back to my original point, I highly doubt Klay is accepting either MLE from a team as he's getting no less than $20 mil/year. |
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jun 29, 2024 1:43:22 GMT -5
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 29, 2024 3:12:21 GMT -5
CG will make the NBA and have a career. Too bad it isn't here. Wouldn't it be nice to have him on the current team? Just an utter disaster to give Pickett and Tyson 3 years guaranteed with a team option right off the bat. Should've signed them both to two-ways last year, then we could cut them this year with no penalty This might be my least favorite Calvin move. Signing then to 3 year deals. Tho its hard because hes made so many s**t decisions |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 29, 2024 3:15:28 GMT -5
Exactly how many picks did Bones/Reggie cost us? 4?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 29, 2024 3:46:56 GMT -5
the Nuggets won't have the full MLE, just the TPMLE. We can offer about $5m x 2 years, not $13m x 4 years. Yeah i just knew it when i saw this guy say we would have it. Because aint no way Calvin is that smart. And aint no way he is using picks for us to SPEND money. Spending money is the oposite of what he was hired to do |
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Post by eathb on Jun 29, 2024 4:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 29, 2024 4:25:41 GMT -5
Let me just tell everyone that Klay aint signing no offer we can make.
Its more likely we end up insulting him and his agency
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jun 29, 2024 5:02:47 GMT -5
Let me just tell everyone that Klay aint signing no offer we can make. Its more likely we end up insulting him and his agency Please smoke some pot and be as delusional as us okay ❤️ |
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 29, 2024 10:30:35 GMT -5
that's unfortunate. a NT capologist from earlier said KCP leaving would put the Nuggets under the 1st apron and thus making the full MLE available to us. He was mistaken. I broke it down in a followup comment. In short, you have to remain under the first apron *for the full year* in order to use the MLE, and if we used the entire MLE it'd take us back over the first apron. If we had KCP leave and traded Zeke for nothing, we could get to 14m combined for MLE + a couple of minimum slots, which would mean a usable partial MLE of about 9-10m which is the same amount as a Zeke trade exception would be worth. If we don't move Zeke for nothing, we'd have less than the TPMLE amount, so we'd have to stick to the TPMLE anyway. Looked at the numbers again on Spotrac and after Reggie was sent out the door the Nuggets have 10 active roster spots at $166,861,866. Add in Holmes contract at a tad over $3 mil and Calvin is starting with 11 active roster spots at $169,936,506. IF (and a big if) Calvin were to dump Zeke for cap space/future picks, then that number is back to 10 active roster spots at $161,047,617. Obviously it sounds like Cancar is coming back via vet min at a cap hit of $2,093,637 or a total of 11 active players at $163,141,254. That leaves at least 3 more spots to fill to get to the minimum of 14 roster spots (not counting two-way deals). Calvin seems likely to fill two of those spots via vet min deals at the same cap hit as Cancar (e.g., reference his comments about bringing back DJ and Holiday) that would move the needle to 13 active spots for a total of $167,328,528. In theory if Calvin were to stop at 14 roster spots + the 2-3 two-way deals while remaining under the 1st apron at $178,655,000 that would leave Calvin with up to $11,326,472 to offer somebody which is ~$1.6 mil below the full MLE. Essentially, Calvin could navigate things to get close to a full MLE (but still short) with 14 roster spots...or he could swap Zeke for another player and still use the tax payer MLE to get to 15 roster spots. I personally would favor the latter given our need for a backup PG... AND a wing off the bench that can score. |
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Post by JB on Jun 29, 2024 10:45:28 GMT -5
Russ back to LAC. the dream of collecting the 2014 all-nba third team with Westbrook/Klay/DAJ is over.
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