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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 16:12:45 GMT -5
give KCP the max and S&T trade him to the Clippers lol
on a serious note, Klay even in his "washed" state still made 39% of his threes on 9 attempts per game. imagine him playing the floor spacer in the 2MG.
sign him.
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Post by nuggets77 on Jun 28, 2024 16:15:40 GMT -5
yes I think Clay Thompson would work, have CB starting at the 2 and pickup Westbrook to be the backup point and 2, and get Drummond for back up center. Sign Westbrook and Drummond at vet min. Now that's a bench to win it all again!
Holmes
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 16:38:41 GMT -5
It’s funny, Klay was probably my least favorite player his first few seasons in the league.
And now our offseason can barely be salvaged by signing him. We are desperate for any rotational players
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 28, 2024 16:40:39 GMT -5
Here is an article about Pope and how he wants to go to Dallas, which cannot afford to pay him in free agency, but can only acquire him via a sign and trade with the Nuggets. However, Denver is unwillilng to play along with delivering Pope to a WC rival, so instead of getting something back via trade from the Mavs, the Nugs are likely to let him go to free agency with whomever and get nothing in return. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand all this NBA bs, but it seems like some serious front office bs from the Nuggets. He is going to go somewhere in free agency and kick Denver's ass at some point, so do a sign and trade and get something back if you are going to lose him in any case. Doesn't seem very smart to me by the Nugs, but maybe I just don't understand the fine points of the situation. However, if it is just not being willing to trade him a WC rival, that seems stupid and explains how the front office got Denver into its present situation of having no bench and only two players they can count on with two others being reliable in about one-third of the playing time. No wonder Denver ain't never going back to the Finals unless they pull off some miracle in free agency. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nuggets-unwilling-to-aid-kentavious-caldwell-pope-sign-and-trade-to-mavericks-per-report/ar-BB1p4NdB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79fa6c4a4d3f48ec9193f02c63b77fad&ei=17 |
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 16:41:41 GMT -5
my dislike in Klay and the GSW is rooted in the playoff "upset" of 2013 (it's ridiculous in hindsight to consider a Ty Lawson and Iggy led team as the favorites) that sent us spiralling into the dark ages. but it all worked out in the end, obviously.
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 16:45:28 GMT -5
Here is an article about Pope and how he wants to go to Dallas, which cannot afford to pay him in free agency, but can only acquire him via a sign and trade with the Nuggets. However, Denver is unwillilng to play along with delivering Pope to a WC rival, so instead of getting something back via trade from the Mavs, the Nugs are likely to let him go to free agency with whomever and get nothing in return. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand all this NBA bs, but it seems like some serious front office bs from the Nuggets. He is going to go somewhere in free agency and kick Denver's ass at some point, so do a sign and trade and get something back if you are going to lose him in any case. Doesn't seem very smart to me by the Nugs, but maybe I just don't understand the fine points of the situation. However, if it is just not being willing to trade him a WC rival, that seems stupid and explains how the front office got Denver into its present situation of having no bench and only two players they can count on with two others being reliable in about one-third of the playing time. No wonder Denver ain't never going back to the Finals unless they pull off some miracle in free agency. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nuggets-unwilling-to-aid-kentavious-caldwell-pope-sign-and-trade-to-mavericks-per-report/ar-BB1p4NdB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79fa6c4a4d3f48ec9193f02c63b77fad&ei=17there are no fine points to consider. the Nuggets are being petty and don't want to help a rival, even though they could have easily rerouted those hypothetical picks they acquired from Dallas to the Clippers along with MPJ/Zeke for Paul George. we wouldn't have to worry about the Mavs in that scenario, but it is what it is. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 28, 2024 16:48:37 GMT -5
No to Westbrook.
Drummond is from NYC and it seems more likely he signs there.
I’m all for signing Klay Thompson if it is feasible and he seems willing to accept a role as a 25 minute/game bench scorer.
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 16:51:50 GMT -5
if Klay is coming here on a discount, I'm pretty sure he's going to be expecting to start at the bare minimum.
I actually like a Klay/Braun pairing with MPJ off the bench as a 6th man to address the roster imbalance. though that would probably require a capable bench PG that can generate good shots for Mike.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Jun 28, 2024 16:53:58 GMT -5
Klay would be a good option for the tax MLE, but it's hard to see him accepting that little money. If nothing else I think someone will like give him the full MLE. Maybe he'd take a discount to play for a contender and have a bigger role, but still doesn't seem likely.
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Post by scooter on Jun 28, 2024 16:55:36 GMT -5
Here is an article about Pope and how he wants to go to Dallas, which cannot afford to pay him in free agency, but can only acquire him via a sign and trade with the Nuggets. However, Denver is unwillilng to play along with delivering Pope to a WC rival, so instead of getting something back via trade from the Mavs, the Nugs are likely to let him go to free agency with whomever and get nothing in return. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand all this NBA bs, but it seems like some serious front office bs from the Nuggets. He is going to go somewhere in free agency and kick Denver's ass at some point, so do a sign and trade and get something back if you are going to lose him in any case. Doesn't seem very smart to me by the Nugs, but maybe I just don't understand the fine points of the situation. However, if it is just not being willing to trade him a WC rival, that seems stupid and explains how the front office got Denver into its present situation of having no bench and only two players they can count on with two others being reliable in about one-third of the playing time. No wonder Denver ain't never going back to the Finals unless they pull off some miracle in free agency. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nuggets-unwilling-to-aid-kentavious-caldwell-pope-sign-and-trade-to-mavericks-per-report/ar-BB1p4NdB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79fa6c4a4d3f48ec9193f02c63b77fad&ei=17there are no fine points to consider. the Nuggets are being petty and don't want to help a rival, even though they could have easily rerouted those hypothetical picks they acquired from Dallas to the Clippers along with MPJ/Zeke for Paul George. we wouldn't have to worry about the Mavs in that scenario, but it is what it is. We don’t know that. Based on reporting about the draft, the Nuggets appear to have good intell into what other teams are up to, and what they are capable of doing. If the 76ers are the only other “contender” with the means to sign KCP (I haven’t studied it and don’t know), I could see the Nuggets make the calculation that they just want to steer him there vs. the Mavs. |
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 17:13:07 GMT -5
Here is an article about Pope and how he wants to go to Dallas, which cannot afford to pay him in free agency, but can only acquire him via a sign and trade with the Nuggets. However, Denver is unwillilng to play along with delivering Pope to a WC rival, so instead of getting something back via trade from the Mavs, the Nugs are likely to let him go to free agency with whomever and get nothing in return. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand all this NBA bs, but it seems like some serious front office bs from the Nuggets. He is going to go somewhere in free agency and kick Denver's ass at some point, so do a sign and trade and get something back if you are going to lose him in any case. Doesn't seem very smart to me by the Nugs, but maybe I just don't understand the fine points of the situation. However, if it is just not being willing to trade him a WC rival, that seems stupid and explains how the front office got Denver into its present situation of having no bench and only two players they can count on with two others being reliable in about one-third of the playing time. No wonder Denver ain't never going back to the Finals unless they pull off some miracle in free agency. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nuggets-unwilling-to-aid-kentavious-caldwell-pope-sign-and-trade-to-mavericks-per-report/ar-BB1p4NdB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79fa6c4a4d3f48ec9193f02c63b77fad&ei=171) we don’t know how much truth there is to this. 2) could be leaked by the mavs to put pressure on denver 3) why should we help Dallas? I’m sick of helping other teams and players get what they want. If the deal is 100% helping us, then sure. Make a deal. But I’m not going to give kcp to a rival so “at least we get something back instead of nothing”. f**k that. That’s what TC used to do all the time and I’m glad booth won’t. What can Dallas even give us? Josh green and a first? Do they even have picks left? I’d demand enough that it would make me say yes even if kcp wanted to return. I mean, in the end, isn’t this how free agency works? You don’t have cap space? You don’t get the guys you want. That’s how it always worked. So that’s just unfortunate for Dallas then. Same reason we can’t just go out and sign guys we want. TLDR: too bad for them. If they want kcp send us enough to make it worth it. Otherwise that’s how it goes when you are over the cap. |
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 17:14:24 GMT -5
Here is an article about Pope and how he wants to go to Dallas, which cannot afford to pay him in free agency, but can only acquire him via a sign and trade with the Nuggets. However, Denver is unwillilng to play along with delivering Pope to a WC rival, so instead of getting something back via trade from the Mavs, the Nugs are likely to let him go to free agency with whomever and get nothing in return. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand all this NBA bs, but it seems like some serious front office bs from the Nuggets. He is going to go somewhere in free agency and kick Denver's ass at some point, so do a sign and trade and get something back if you are going to lose him in any case. Doesn't seem very smart to me by the Nugs, but maybe I just don't understand the fine points of the situation. However, if it is just not being willing to trade him a WC rival, that seems stupid and explains how the front office got Denver into its present situation of having no bench and only two players they can count on with two others being reliable in about one-third of the playing time. No wonder Denver ain't never going back to the Finals unless they pull off some miracle in free agency. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nuggets-unwilling-to-aid-kentavious-caldwell-pope-sign-and-trade-to-mavericks-per-report/ar-BB1p4NdB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79fa6c4a4d3f48ec9193f02c63b77fad&ei=17there are no fine points to consider. the Nuggets are being petty and don't want to help a rival, even though they could have easily rerouted those hypothetical picks they acquired from Dallas to the Clippers along with MPJ/Zeke for Paul George. we wouldn't have to worry about the Mavs in that scenario, but it is what it is. It’s not necessarily pettiness. Does Dallas have enough to offer to make it worth it for us? Seriously, why help a rival just so we can get an extra bad pick? 100% not worth it. If Dallas wants kcp send us some good players |
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 17:15:55 GMT -5
well rock, what if the other option is we lose him for nothing?
which option is more appealing now?
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 17:18:06 GMT -5
well rock, what if the other option is we lose him for nothing? which option is more appealing now? If the choices are he walks for nothing or we get a second round pick from Dallas, I’ll take option #1 |
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 17:19:45 GMT -5
But if they want to send us Josh green, a first and salary filler I’d consider that
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Post by JB on Jun 28, 2024 17:23:10 GMT -5
well rock, what if the other option is we lose him for nothing? which option is more appealing now? If the choices are he walks for nothing or we get a second round pick from Dallas, I’ll take option #1 well no. we have the leverage to ask for more you wouldn't trade Pope for a FRP+2nd? |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 28, 2024 17:26:14 GMT -5
there are no fine points to consider. the Nuggets are being petty and don't want to help a rival, even though they could have easily rerouted those hypothetical picks they acquired from Dallas to the Clippers along with MPJ/Zeke for Paul George. we wouldn't have to worry about the Mavs in that scenario, but it is what it is. We don’t know that. Based on reporting about the draft, the Nuggets appear to have good intell into what other teams are up to, and what they are capable of doing. If the 76ers are the only other “contender” with the means to sign KCP (I haven’t studied it and don’t know), I could see the Nuggets make the calculation that they just want to steer him there vs. the Mavs. Who cares where he goes as long as they can get some player in return for losing him. Letting him go to free agency with no compensation doesn't do much for Denver. On the other hand, with Pope around they collapsed against the Wolves so he didn't save their collective asses in that situation. I am not saying he is worthless. I am only saying that not having him around ain't gonna kill 'em if they can get some decent guy in free agency. Pope is not exactly the killer of opponents. He is a role player. But, he did become an important role player as Porter and Gordon collapsed offensively. But, Pope failed to make up for the Porter/Gordon crash anyway, so adios KCP, or whatever your letters are. |
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2024 17:31:01 GMT -5
If the choices are he walks for nothing or we get a second round pick from Dallas, I’ll take option #1 well no. we have the leverage to ask for more you wouldn't trade Pope for a FRP+2nd? Not from Dallas. That’s a very late first. That’s nothing. I’m sick and tired of helping our guys get traded to or sign with other teams. Tim Connelly used to do this all the time and it sucks because the generosity has never once been reciprocated. Our title window is closed, fine. Don’t hand a title to Dallas in the mean time. Our front office has been taken advantage of for decades. Enough is enough. Time to get creative and try to fix this mess. A 29th pick in 2028 doesn’t do anything. Find a 3 way deal to turn kcp into some real assets and/or rotation players. Clearly the guy is in high demand. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 28, 2024 17:44:00 GMT -5
Our title window is closed, fine. Don’t hand a title to Dallas in the mean time. Our front office has been taken advantage of for decades. Enough is enough. Time to get creative and try to fix this mess. Rock, keep on keeping on. But FYI, the sports books still have the Nuggets as the 2nd favorite behind the Celtics to win the 2025 championship. |
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Post by BBBbbb on Jun 28, 2024 18:03:03 GMT -5
Anyone else shocked that Paul George is 34? Also I'm cool with Klay. He's washed most likely but at this point what else can the Nuggets really do with limited money/assets? If you mean only 34, then yes, a bit, I expected more. Last time I remember he had a superstar season was in Indiana that series against LBJ. There are too many guys in the NBA that have been riding a superstar status but have not been at that level for more than half a regular season ( and MIA in PO) for more than a decade |
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