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Post by GBG on Aug 27, 2024 10:40:38 GMT -5
Kcp was bang up at the end of the season, he the one who needed rest at the end Yeah, his sprained or dislocated finger lingered for months, and had to affect his shooting. Also turned his ankle a couple times in playoffs. |
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Post by JB on Aug 27, 2024 11:36:27 GMT -5
KCP got bodied by Ant and no-showed offensively. enough with the hand-wringing over overpaid overrated role players. if you're going to ghost us on offense, you better be making a rookie-scale contract and not 66m
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Post by pie on Aug 27, 2024 11:40:03 GMT -5
MPJ for Hunter + Bogdanovic makes too much sense ...would Atlanta do it?
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Post by scooter on Aug 27, 2024 12:06:11 GMT -5
KCP got bodied by Ant and no-showed offensively. enough with the hand-wringing over overpaid overrated role players. if you're going to ghost us on offense, you better be making a rookie-scale contract and not 66m I think this is overstated. There is not a league full of Edwards-type players, and the Nuggets also need folks to guard slimmer, quicker guards like Curry and Irving and Garland and SGA and Fox and others. KCP is really good at sticking to those guys, including getting around screens and drawing screening fouls, and the Nuggets are going to take a step back in that area. While Braun is a very good defender, it’s difficult to envision him squeezing around screens the same way. The team will try to use schemes to adjust, but asking Jokic to hedge out higher or switch more onto those guards doesn’t seem great in terms of managing his workload. I could see them trying to really change up defensive matchups and move Gordon more onto screeners to avoid having to ask more of Jokic in those situations, with more matchup zone kinda concepts. |
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Post by JB on Aug 27, 2024 12:30:48 GMT -5
Curry, Fox and Garland are what I would call "regular season" problems. Irving and the Mavs (all due respect to their fluke run) are not a team that pose a serious threat to the Nuggets when healthy.
Edwards and SGA are the players that will be standing between the Nuggets and the finals. Malone arguably lost the WCSF by sticking with Pope over Braun and outside of a fluke bad game at the very start of the 23-24 season, SGA absolutely eviscerated KCP in their two following matches. it was time to move on.
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Post by Ring on Aug 27, 2024 13:03:22 GMT -5
The people who have acted like KCP is a major loss are delusional IMO. He was a very limited, solid role player. Those guys grow on trees. Yes CB won't shoot it as well. But he will get to the rim more, rebound better and help more defensively in terms of both switching and guarding bigger body guys.
Nobody has a better +/- with Jokic.
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Post by famicommander on Aug 27, 2024 13:08:10 GMT -5
The people who have acted like KCP is a major loss are delusional IMO. He was a very limited, solid role player. Those guys grow on trees. Yes CB won't shoot it as well. But he will get to the rim more, rebound better and help more defensively in terms of both switching and guarding bigger body guys. Nobody has a better +/- with Jokic. Again, it's not the KCP loss that's the issue. Last year we got 82 games out of Braun and 76 out of KCP and still needed 58 from Holiday and 50 from Strawther. Now KCP and Holiday are both gone. Braun replaces KCP's starting role and Strawther replaces Braun's backup role (if he can stay healthy), but who the hell picks up those 108 man-games worth of Holiday and Strawther minutes from last season? |
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Post by GBG on Aug 27, 2024 13:26:34 GMT -5
The people who have acted like KCP is a major loss are delusional IMO. He was a very limited, solid role player. Those guys grow on trees. Yes CB won't shoot it as well. But he will get to the rim more, rebound better and help more defensively in terms of both switching and guarding bigger body guys. Nobody has a better +/- with Jokic. Again, it's not the KCP loss that's the issue. Last year we got 82 games out of Braun and 76 out of KCP and still needed 58 from Holiday and 50 from Strawther. Now KCP and Holiday are both gone. Braun replaces KCP's starting role and Strawther replaces Braun's backup role (if he can stay healthy), but who the hell picks up those 108 man-games worth of Holiday and Strawther minutes from last season? You’re on the right track, but should look at it in terms of minutes, not games played. |
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Post by rock on Aug 27, 2024 13:31:12 GMT -5
The people who have acted like KCP is a major loss are delusional IMO. He was a very limited, solid role player. Those guys grow on trees. Yes CB won't shoot it as well. But he will get to the rim more, rebound better and help more defensively in terms of both switching and guarding bigger body guys. Nobody has a better +/- with Jokic. agreed but it only works if we can go out and sign some of them. like how the bucks went out and got delon wright and GTJ. we will 100% feel the loss of KCP this year (our depth is going to be a huge issue). the question becomes, by the playoffs, will the rest of the guys step up and replace 70% of what he gave for 30% of the price. |
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Post by GBG on Aug 27, 2024 13:40:11 GMT -5
The people who have acted like KCP is a major loss are delusional IMO. He was a very limited, solid role player. Those guys grow on trees. Yes CB won't shoot it as well. But he will get to the rim more, rebound better and help more defensively in terms of both switching and guarding bigger body guys. Nobody has a better +/- with Jokic. agreed but it only works if we can go out and sign some of them. like how the bucks went out and got delon wright and GTJ. we will 100% feel the loss of KCP this year (our depth is going to be a huge issue). the question becomes, by the playoffs, will the rest of the guys step up and replace 70% of what he gave for 30% of the price. I still think Zeke will be traded for a guard. Perhaps Micic who was rumored lately. Perhaps someone else. |
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Post by scooter on Aug 27, 2024 15:28:00 GMT -5
I think there is guard help right under our noses in the form of Trey Alexander, and the Nuggets should work to clear a roster spot to sign him to a multi-year contract. In 5 summer league games, he shot 53/48/100. I’m not claiming he’s the second coming of Steph but there are not a lot of guys his age who show up at SL for the first time and play with that level of consistent efficiency and with an NBA skill set. And he just turned 21, so its not like he has several years more experience than the SL competition. He also has very respectable size, measuring barefoot at 6’3.25” with a 6’10.5” wingspan (the latter of which is exceptional). From what we’ve seen, he’s a first round talent and the Nuggets should get him locked up.
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Post by GBG on Aug 27, 2024 15:35:18 GMT -5
I think there is guard help right under our noses in the form of Trey Alexander, and the Nuggets should work to clear a roster spot to sign him to a multi-year contract. In 5 summer league games, he shot 53/48/100. I’m not claiming he’s the second coming of Steph but there are not a lot of guys his age who show up at SL for the first time and play with that level of consistent efficiency and with an NBA skill set. And he just turned 21, so its not like he has several years more experience than the SL competition. He also has very respectable size, measuring barefoot at 6’3.25” with a 6’10.5” wingspan (the latter of which is exceptional). From what we’ve seen, he’s a first round talent and the Nuggets should get him locked up. Maybe both can happen. Trading Zeke + Pickett or Tyson for Micic (or someone else) opens up a roster spot than then could be used to upgrade Alexander to a full contract. I think this type of thing should happen since I don’t trust Strawther yet to be a legitimate answer for rotation guard, and don’t trust the durability of 36 year-old Westbrook and, obviously, Murray for more than 60 games or so, if we want him to be primed, ready, and healthy for a possible 2 month playoff run. |
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Post by famicommander on Aug 27, 2024 16:46:38 GMT -5
Aaron Gordon will wear #32 this year, switching from his former #50 to honor his late brother.
Hunter Tyson will wear #5, giving up his #4 for Westbrook.
Wind reported that Westbrook asked for Braun's #0 and Braun declined. Westbrook says that never happened and said Wind is spreading false stories.
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Post by GBG on Aug 27, 2024 17:52:22 GMT -5
Aaron Gordon will wear #32 this year, switching from his former #50 to honor his late brother. Hunter Tyson will wear #5, giving up his #4 for Westbrook. Wind reported that Westbrook asked for Braun's #0 and Braun declined. Westbrook says that never happened and said Wind is spreading false stories. In Chinese culture, the number 4 means death. Does this portend that Westbrook’s NBA career will die near Chopper Circle? I hope not. |
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Post by famicommander on Aug 27, 2024 18:12:59 GMT -5
He's 36 and he's got a player option next year, it's likely his career dies here whether he plays well or poorly.
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Post by GBG on Aug 27, 2024 18:25:57 GMT -5
He's 36 and he's got a player option next year, it's likely his career dies here whether he plays well or poorly. Well, if he plays well, he will opt out and his career will die somewhere else. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 27, 2024 18:44:48 GMT -5
Kcp was bang up at the end of the season, he the one who needed rest at the end Yes Malone ran the starters into the ground. Not just Murray But the Murray defenders wont admit the same excuse applies for KCP |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 27, 2024 18:45:32 GMT -5
KCP got bodied by Ant and no-showed offensively. enough with the hand-wringing over overpaid overrated role players. if you're going to ghost us on offense, you better be making a rookie-scale contract and not 66m Its hilarious how you love to use fatigue as excuse for Murray while spewing out this |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 27, 2024 18:46:30 GMT -5
KCP got bodied by Ant and no-showed offensively. enough with the hand-wringing over overpaid overrated role players. if you're going to ghost us on offense, you better be making a rookie-scale contract and not 66m I think this is overstated. There is not a league full of Edwards-type players, and the Nuggets also need folks to guard slimmer, quicker guards like Curry and Irving and Garland and SGA and Fox and others. KCP is really good at sticking to those guys, including getting around screens and drawing screening fouls, and the Nuggets are going to take a step back in that area. While Braun is a very good defender, it’s difficult to envision him squeezing around screens the same way. The team will try to use schemes to adjust, but asking Jokic to hedge out higher or switch more onto those guards doesn’t seem great in terms of managing his workload. I could see them trying to really change up defensive matchups and move Gordon more onto screeners to avoid having to ask more of Jokic in those situations, with more matchup zone kinda concepts. Who knows maybe KCP can shut Ant down if he wasnt run into the ground |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 27, 2024 18:48:41 GMT -5
The people who have acted like KCP is a major loss are delusional IMO. He was a very limited, solid role player. Those guys grow on trees. Yes CB won't shoot it as well. But he will get to the rim more, rebound better and help more defensively in terms of both switching and guarding bigger body guys. Nobody has a better +/- with Jokic. I didnt see you say this one year ago lmao. KCP is an extremely proven championship calibre starting SG You think +/- is worth more than actual history lmao. Delusional Jokic cant shoot, Gordon cant shoot, Braun meh, Murray cant shoot if we go by wiz logic. Didnt we used to have the best starting 5 in the league. Delusional lmao |
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