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Post by JB on Aug 10, 2024 10:49:12 GMT -5
Came here just to say this. Trade MPJ. Win a title. Most, if not all of us would love to see MPJ traded for a couple of rotation pieces. However, in the 2nd apron era nobody is taking on MPJ for three more seasons on a max deal unless Calvin includes multiple 1st round picks...which Denver doesn't have. Not saying I like it, but I've accepted the fact MPJ isn’t going anywhere since Stan forced an MPJ contract that the franchise is stuck with at least until the trade deadline of his last year (e.g., February 2027). eh, MPJ just turned 26, is a 6'10 sharpshooter that rebounds at a high level and is no longer a defensive liability and whose back issues have stabilized. I feel finding a 2 for 1 wouldn't be that difficult for the Nuggets, but they're not interested in pursuing that path.
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Post by pie on Aug 10, 2024 10:53:40 GMT -5
Bogdanovic would be so good on DEN. Came here just to say this. Trade MPJ. Win a title. Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr., Zeke Nnaji, Tyson Hunter, 2031 1st for Trae Young, DeAndre Hunter and Bogdanovic PG-Trae Young / Russell Westbrick SG-Braun / Bogdanovic SF-Hunter / Watson PF - Aaron Gordon / Saric / Cancar C - Jokic / defensive, shot blocking backup center that is at least 6'11" / 65 year old DeAndre Jordan 2025 NBA Champions = Denver Nuggets
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Post by wizardofcozz on Aug 10, 2024 11:07:36 GMT -5
Came here just to say this. Trade MPJ. Win a title. Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr., Zeke Nnaji, Tyson Hunter, 2031 1st for Trae Young, DeAndre Hunter and Bogdanovic PG-Trae Young / Russell Westbrick SG-Braun / Bogdanovic SF-Hunter / Watson PF - Aaron Gordon / Saric / Cancar C - Jokic / defensive, shot blocking backup center that is at least 6'11" / 65 year old DeAndre Jordan 2025 NBA Champions = Denver Nuggets Trae can't guard. Nobody winning a title with a pg that small imo.
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Post by JB on Aug 10, 2024 11:09:11 GMT -5
I'm actually laughing at the thought of Trae running the inverted PnR with Joker.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Aug 10, 2024 11:09:52 GMT -5
They did a genetic test and they has an xy chromosome. The person is mostly likely intersex. And shouldn't be competing in a women's division. "they" = some corrupt untrustworthy body under the control of Vladmir Putin's cronies. perhaps you should read Lothar's post. I've heard members of the 'trans skeptic' community say "you can only call yourself a woman if you were born with a vagina" so many times it could be their personal mantra. Imane meets their criteria of a woman, period. Like the IOC is less corrupt? Lol It's not about corruption. The issue is the IOC didn't test at all. Just accepted the passport.
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Post by JB on Aug 10, 2024 11:13:11 GMT -5
it is, actually.
yes, they accepted the passport of a conservative Muslim country with a functioning health care system that identified her gender at birth.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Aug 10, 2024 11:53:03 GMT -5
"they" = some corrupt untrustworthy body under the control of Vladmir Putin's cronies. perhaps you should read Lothar's post. I've heard members of the 'trans skeptic' community say "you can only call yourself a woman if you were born with a vagina" so many times it could be their personal mantra. Imane meets their criteria of a woman, period. Like the IOC is less corrupt? Lol It's not about corruption. The issue is the IOC didn't test at all. Just accepted the passport. This is false. The olympics have 2 levels of policy. There's the olympic-wide policy of the IOC, which "just accepted the passport", and which governs their media partners (it's why commentators are required to use the pronouns supplied by each athlete.) But each individual sport is also governed by its own international body, which the Olympics defers to for qualification purposes. In the case of boxing, it used to be the IBA but they were disqualified over numerous scandals (including financial scandals as well as referee corruption scandals) -- so for this Olympics there was a "Paris Boxing Unit" that replaced them. But the Paris Boxing authority used the guidelines from the IBA that were in place for the 2016 Rio Olympics. The IBA's 2016 guidelines include gender testing, and past reports show that includes testosterone testing. Khelif has passed eligibility tests consistently going back to 2018, except for the pair of tests issued by the IBA, and the claims about those tests have changed repeatedly (different IBA authorities have claimed "gender test", "chromosome test", "testosterone test", and "not a testosterone test", and also stated specific tests were done by labs that don't do that type of test; there's no verifiable chain of custody on the samples or the test results.) So this is a case of an athlete who is known to have been born a girl, raised as a girl, whose dad kept her out of boxing because he didn't think it was for girls, and consistently passed required eligibility tests for woman boxers, except for *possibly* two chromosome tests ordered by a Putin-aligned crony organization that come with the obvious ulterior motive of restoring an undefeated record for a Russian boxer. The most plausible explanations are either that Khelif is an ordinary XX woman with an ugly face who was corruptly disqualified (note that she contested the results but lacked the funding to continue the fight), or that Khelif has a rare genetic disorder with XY karyotype and female phenotype who has little to no advantage connecting to the XY karyotype. Go watch the Khelif v Broadhurst fight, and then look up any men's fight in a similar weight category. Khelif/Broadhurst will stand out as *obviously* "hitting like girls". I asked two martial arts experts (one man, one woman, both ideologically conservatives who think transgender ideology is ontologically untenable) who didn't know about the allegations to watch that specific fight, and then told them about the allegations, and they both openly mock anyone who thinks Khelif looks like a male fighter, because she so obviously fights with the same power/speed level as other top-level women, and not anywhere close to what you see from men in that weight class.
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Post by famicommander on Aug 10, 2024 13:03:06 GMT -5
"they" = some corrupt untrustworthy body under the control of Vladmir Putin's cronies. perhaps you should read Lothar's post. I've heard members of the 'trans skeptic' community say "you can only call yourself a woman if you were born with a vagina" so many times it could be their personal mantra. Imane meets their criteria of a woman, period. Like the IOC is less corrupt? Lol It's not about corruption. The issue is the IOC didn't test at all. Just accepted the passport. Again, read the damn thread. The guy who runs the IBA: -opposes independent oversight of boxing judges and referees -is in charge of the Russian Boxing Federation -is in charge of regulating all gambling in Russia -is in charge of the only legal bookmaker in Russia -is in charge of the three largest gambling companies in Russia -moved the IBA's operations from a neutral country to Russia -took on the Russian government as the sole financial sponsor (it used to be sponsored by a mix of foreign nations, companies, and individual private donors) -expelled all Ukrainian fighters from the organization -has refused to pay any of the debts that got the organization into trouble -has cultivated a massive cult of personality -has a documented history of falsely accusing his critics of being queer to discredit them -was caught lying about the World Anti-Doping Agency being the ones who did a "gender test" we still haven't seen the results of -only claimed this "gender test" was an issue when an undefeated Russian prospect was beaten by a big underdog -was directly appointed by Vladimir Putin And again, the IBA was ALREADY kicked out for corruption, ethical concerns, cheating scandals, and unpaid debts before this guy took over. And he's a gambling czar, massive nationalist, personal friend of Putin's, and a massive homophobe. All of this controversy comes from one guy. One guy who has changed his story about how and why they failed the gender test multiple times, and who refuses to show anybody any proof. It's manufactured.
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Post by scooter on Aug 10, 2024 13:09:57 GMT -5
Trae can't guard. Nobody winning a title with a pg that small imo. Agree. And I’m 99% sure that Nuggets’ management agrees as well.
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Post by wicked3line on Aug 10, 2024 14:15:28 GMT -5
Most, if not all of us would love to see MPJ traded for a couple of rotation pieces. However, in the 2nd apron era nobody is taking on MPJ for three more seasons on a max deal unless Calvin includes multiple 1st round picks...which Denver doesn't have. Not saying I like it, but I've accepted the fact MPJ isn’t going anywhere since Stan forced an MPJ contract that the franchise is stuck with at least until the trade deadline of his last year (e.g., February 2027). eh, MPJ just turned 26, is a 6'10 sharpshooter that rebounds at a high level and is no longer a defensive liability and whose back issues have stabilized. I feel finding a 2 for 1 wouldn't be that difficult for the Nuggets, but they're not interested in pursuing that path. Sorry, but you way overvalue MPJs trade value by understating how punitive his remaining 3 year max deal is to teams in this era where they are trying to avoid the tax aprons. Maybe with a year left a team could take a flyer on MPJ but nobody is taking a max contract guy only avg 16-17 ppg with 3 years left on the deal without substantial draft stock provided (which Denver doesn't have).
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Post by JB on Aug 10, 2024 15:14:12 GMT -5
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 10, 2024 15:17:22 GMT -5
great to see Algeria and Arab world embrace Imane. I guess Arabs know what a woman is, unlike conservative wack jobs in the west conducting the modern day equivalent of witch trials. Jesus Christ. Toxic
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Post by JB on Aug 10, 2024 15:18:19 GMT -5
you must've been looking a mirror when you posted that.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 10, 2024 15:19:19 GMT -5
it is, actually. yes, they accepted the passport of a conservative Muslim country with a functioning health care system that identified her gender at birth. You just pretend misgendering isn’t relatively common in unique cases. IOC is incredibly corrupt. I don’t know much about IBA and it’s legit hilarious you pretend you do. With a straight face. While throwing around some relatively dark comparisons
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Post by scooter on Aug 10, 2024 15:19:21 GMT -5
eh, MPJ just turned 26, is a 6'10 sharpshooter that rebounds at a high level and is no longer a defensive liability and whose back issues have stabilized. I feel finding a 2 for 1 wouldn't be that difficult for the Nuggets, but they're not interested in pursuing that path. Sorry, but you way overvalue MPJs trade value by understating how punitive his remaining 3 year max deal is to teams in this era where they are trying to avoid the tax aprons. Maybe with a year left a team could take a flyer on MPJ but nobody is taking a max contract guy only avg 16-17 ppg with 3 years left on the deal without substantial draft stock provided (which Denver doesn't have). There are other “bad” contracts in the NBA (Beal at 3 years/$162 mil and Poole at 3 years/$96 mil probably head up the list) so I think we’re heading closer to an era in which Porter could be traded if he stays on the court.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 10, 2024 15:20:02 GMT -5
you must've been looking a mirror when you posted that. Wanting a better system in place to defend the safety of female boxers is not comparable to modern day witch trials How am I the toxic one my man
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 10, 2024 15:21:59 GMT -5
I don’t pretend I have seen any results of any tests. But if she does have an Y chromosome then she should not fight other women. No matter how bad her record is.
I’ve seen no good theory as to why the IBA would want to frame Imane for having an Y chromosome. Or why she withdrew her appeal
This being twisted to anti trans or modern day witch trials screens of some sort of superiority complex. Same with everyone liking that trash post
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 10, 2024 15:26:51 GMT -5
They did a genetic test and they has an xy chromosome. The person is mostly likely intersex. And shouldn't be competing in a women's division. "they" = some corrupt untrustworthy body under the control of Vladmir Putin's cronies. perhaps you should read Lothar's post. I've heard members of the 'trans skeptic' community say "you can only call yourself a woman if you were born with a vagina" so many times it could be their personal mantra. Imane meets their criteria of a woman, period. Lmaooo Americans and their incredible fear of Russia How is framing Imane for having an Y chromosome benefitial for Russia? IBA is more corrupt than one of the most proven corrupt organisations in the world. Why? Because of Russia and Putin lmao Go talk to those vagina people bro, no one here is saying that. Try to read instead of projecting and arresting
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Post by JB on Aug 10, 2024 15:30:28 GMT -5
not of all this is anti-trans hysteria, a ton of it is racism. conservatives saw a large brown woman reduce a small white woman to tears and their Euro lizard brain was activated - the same Euro lizard brain that had the fair right working themselves into a psychotic fury over the "Muslim migrant" identity of the Southport stabbings when the assailant was neither a migrant nor a Muslim, which spilled over into the streets of UK in the form of race riots.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 10, 2024 15:33:14 GMT -5
This isn’t about those woman need vagina people. It’s “your” side than keeps turing the debate into something is not. Turning it into anti trans.
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