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Post by AbdulJabber on Apr 18, 2024 23:46:50 GMT -5
The scary thing for me with the Lakers is that they'll dare everyone to shoot and our outside shooting has been crap. Can't even get separation on the Grizzlies 8th stringers. And if you miss shots, that's basically the force of life for the Lakers. They can't survive good shooting because so much of their system is built on playing in transition. You miss shots, you fuel their offense.
The other key is handling the unfair whistle. There's nothing we can really do about it, but we just have to be ready if Jokic has to sit. We handled it great last year, so I'm hopeful.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Apr 19, 2024 0:20:56 GMT -5
Agreed, especially about Jokic. I was traumatized after the 2020 WCF because that was their entire key to winning that series. Jokic got in foul trouble with some absolute bullshit calls, and it really limited his ability to impact the game. I was worried the same thing would happen last year, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad. Maybe winning MVP and becoming more of a star made all the difference with that, and that part won't be an issue anymore.
But the Lakers still get a crazy favorable whistle and even if it's not Jok, what happens if AG gets in foul trouble? That's one spot where not having another strong forward like Uncle Jeff to cover LeBron and AD for spurts is going to be missed.
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 19, 2024 0:46:42 GMT -5
Biggest difference: Dennis Schroeder As others have also mentioned - Schroeder actually played really good defense against Murray last year. Murray still got his bag, but Schroeder didn’t make it easy. Murray would have had multiple 50-point outings in the WCF if Schroeder wasn’t on that team. DLO is a god-awful player. He’s going to get absolutely trounced by our defense. Lebron and AD are both one year older. Ultimately, the xfactor for why we swept them last year was conditioning. The Lakers could ball just fine with us thru 3.5 quarters - but once the midway point hit during the 4th quarter they were toast (and it’ll be worse for them this year). We will miss uncle - But LA will find Braun and Watson’s defense stifling. Reggie will find his way to the basket. I give this 5 games. The Schroeder absence is going to be the biggest difference. Go Nuggets!!! Schroeder is a good defender overall. One thing he is not though is lengthy. In my recollection, Murray basically bullied him one on one. Backed him down and shot over him. I don’t think the lakers miss him in a Murray matchup honestly.
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Post by duh88 on Apr 19, 2024 3:58:57 GMT -5
Schroeder was a pest against Murray. Put a lot of energy into staying on a Murray like a glove. Granted - he had nothing left on offense, because all of his energy went into defense.
You're going to see Murray eat. Schroeder was a good defender. The current lakers backcourt is garbage on defense.
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Post by duh88 on Apr 19, 2024 4:01:56 GMT -5
this racist place lmfao never change you ignorant little pussies Vagina status: maximum sandiness Oh f**k off, Fami. You're the guy who screams over every male athlete being a rapist, in an attempt to exercise moral superiority over all because of your high morals towards women - but yet have the audacity to then make a "vag" joke. Give up the act.
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Post by duh88 on Apr 19, 2024 4:02:33 GMT -5
And in other news -
Sticky is my bro. The world is better with his presence.
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Post by TNF on Apr 19, 2024 6:37:54 GMT -5
The Nuggets could lose this series. I don't think they will, but they could. We are still the Denver Nuggets, after all. We're not some team that has proven over and over and over their obvious superiority. Health will be critical, and neither Jamal or Joker can have a bad game. There's more pressure on them now than there was last year, because it's much easier to be an underdog than it is to be a favorite. We all know the Lakers will get a better whistle. If we beat them in the first game and are able to pull off a second win in Denver, the Lakers will probably fold. If they somehow get up 2-1, we're in deep doo-doo.
GO NUGGETS !!! Nobody would be happier to beat them again. I just don't think it will be as easy as many think it will be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 7:11:10 GMT -5
Agreed, especially about Jokic. I was traumatized after the 2020 WCF because that was their entire key to winning that series. Jokic got in foul trouble with some absolute bullshit calls, and it really limited his ability to impact the game. I was worried the same thing would happen last year, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad. Maybe winning MVP and becoming more of a star made all the difference with that, and that part won't be an issue anymore. But the Lakers still get a crazy favorable whistle and even if it's not Jok, what happens if AG gets in foul trouble? That's one spot where not having another strong forward like Uncle Jeff to cover LeBron and AD for spurts is going to be missed. What about Zeke? Can he replace Uncle Jeff for 5 minutes/game in the playoffs? If I was 39 year old LeBron and injury-prone AD, his headshot alone 'screams' strong forward/center lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 7:12:23 GMT -5
My prediction is Nuggets in 4
Back-to-back playoff sweeps
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 19, 2024 7:55:05 GMT -5
Schroeder was a pest against Murray. Put a lot of energy into staying on a Murray like a glove. Granted - he had nothing left on offense, because all of his energy went into defense. You're going to see Murray eat. Schroeder was a good defender. The current lakers backcourt is garbage on defense. Here’s to hoping you’re right. I tend to agree. Lakers fans are praying Vincent and dinwiddie are gonna be Murray stoppers. Lol
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Post by TNF on Apr 19, 2024 8:15:37 GMT -5
We can all see Zeke has natural talent and we know he's a smart guy. He has no strength and has weak hands. Calvin gave him the extension. Many here and elsewhere called for Booth to get another big man all season. We have our strength in the middle-sized types. Malone doesn't want to play Zeke, but he may have to.
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Post by GBG on Apr 19, 2024 8:28:36 GMT -5
Zeke won’t play in these playoffs unless some major foul trouble or injuries pop up. Even if Jokic has to sit with two fouls in the first three minutes of first game, we’d just move AG to C and play Watson or Holiday or, more likely, Braun in those minutes. We’d even play DAJ in spot minutes if other team presents us with size.
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Post by JB on Apr 19, 2024 9:47:35 GMT -5
I've noted in the past that Bron was a bit hesitant and reluctant to give Jokic his flowers when asked about him and would instead endlessly heap praise on guys like Luka and Giannis, but Bron has been full court pressing his praise on Joker recently.
is it the Ringz, Erneh, "I can't respect you until you beat me" kind of thing? or is Bron trying to butter Jokic up to take his edge away? maybe I'm being too cynical here but it's nice to read, regardless.
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Post by jimijam28 on Apr 19, 2024 9:54:34 GMT -5
yawn- Nug in 5, la kings in 5 (fu jb)
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Post by JB on Apr 19, 2024 9:59:00 GMT -5
Agreed, especially about Jokic. I was traumatized after the 2020 WCF because that was their entire key to winning that series. Jokic got in foul trouble with some absolute bullshit calls, and it really limited his ability to impact the game. I was worried the same thing would happen last year, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad. Maybe winning MVP and becoming more of a star made all the difference with that, and that part won't be an issue anymore. But the Lakers still get a crazy favorable whistle and even if it's not Jok, what happens if AG gets in foul trouble? That's one spot where not having another strong forward like Uncle Jeff to cover LeBron and AD for spurts is going to be missed. correct. the refs allowed Dwight Howard to defend Jokic like he was Bill Laimbeer in the 80s. Dwight is getting fouled out in the 1H if he tries that against the 3xMVP and as an aside, KCP was massive in the bubble series, giving them Reaves level offense with great defense as the cherry on top. I cannot be understated just how monumental the Pope, Kuzma and picks trade for Westbrook was. it changed the trajectory of two franchises and will forever impact LeBron's legacy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 10:24:31 GMT -5
I've noted in the past that Bron was a bit hesitant and reluctant to give Jokic his flowers when asked about him and would instead endlessly heap praise on guys like Luka and Giannis, but Bron has been full court pressing his praise on Joker recently.
is it the Ringz, Erneh, "I can't respect you until you beat me" kind of thing? or is Bron trying to butter Jokic up to take his edge away? maybe I'm being too cynical here but it's nice to read, regardless.
Bron is definitely trying to butter Jokic up and take the edge away. At the same time, I'm sure there is mutual respect. If I am not mistaken, Bron and Jokic have been on the same all-star team multiple times. They probably know each other to an extent off the court. www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39971412/lebron-james-too-much-emphasis-lakers-nuggets-rematchBron is talking too much
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Post by Ring on Apr 19, 2024 10:51:36 GMT -5
The scary thing for me with the Lakers is that they'll dare everyone to shoot and our outside shooting has been crap. Can't even get separation on the Grizzlies 8th stringers. And if you miss shots, that's basically the force of life for the Lakers. They can't survive good shooting because so much of their system is built on playing in transition. You miss shots, you fuel their offense. The other key is handling the unfair whistle. There's nothing we can really do about it, but we just have to be ready if Jokic has to sit. We handled it great last year, so I'm hopeful. The thing with shooting is both Murray and Jokic take and make more 3s come playoff time. The AG thing is still scary but he stepped up last year when needed. Nuggets have to embrace the physicality. I worry much more about the bench than I do the starters with that. Really just need to get off to a hot start. If the Lakers lose Game 1, doubt will start to creep in. It's human nature considering how many times we've won in a row.
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Post by Ring on Apr 19, 2024 10:52:13 GMT -5
Agreed, especially about Jokic. I was traumatized after the 2020 WCF because that was their entire key to winning that series. Jokic got in foul trouble with some absolute bullshit calls, and it really limited his ability to impact the game. I was worried the same thing would happen last year, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad. Maybe winning MVP and becoming more of a star made all the difference with that, and that part won't be an issue anymore. But the Lakers still get a crazy favorable whistle and even if it's not Jok, what happens if AG gets in foul trouble? That's one spot where not having another strong forward like Uncle Jeff to cover LeBron and AD for spurts is going to be missed. Yep. Major loss of Jeff shows in this series. Peyton isn't strong enough. CB is probably a bit too small. Nuggets don't have anyone else to throw at him.
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Post by jimijam28 on Apr 19, 2024 11:11:05 GMT -5
calm down rock jr
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Post by JB on Apr 19, 2024 11:16:06 GMT -5
LeBraun is 220 pounds, which is about 25lbs less than Bron give or take. for comparisons sake, Holiday is the same height as Braun and 180 pounds. Pope is 204. he's closer to Uncle Jeff's weight than any SG on the roster.
calm.
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