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Post by famicommander on Apr 21, 2024 13:25:46 GMT -5
As I've said before, DJ may be old and slow, but he has plenty of experience and KNOWS what to do, which is why he'll make a good coach...probably next year... DJ said that he wants to keep playing and he'd even love to play in Asia or Europe, so unfortunately I don't think we'll see him as a coach anytime soon. |
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Post by bignuggets on Apr 21, 2024 14:00:21 GMT -5
This the key thing. Lebron had a couple of times he could have undercut Joker, but I honestly think he respects him completely. As you say, it's the scrubs who might do it. Draymond Green respects Joker tremendously and would never hurt him. How many people can say that? That last dunk by Jokic scared me. Lebron could’ve tried to hurt him and I half expected a dirty play, but Lebron played him physical without undercutting him. Awesome. |
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Post by TNF on Apr 21, 2024 14:18:13 GMT -5
Back in the 80s/90s, Jokic would have been CERTAINLY undercut. Besides the rules and penalties changing over the years, people realize that if I hurt you there's going to be payback. Some complain, but I have always liked the post-game handshakes, offering a hand to help up the opposing player, etc. That aspect of the game was MUCH rougher in the old days.
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 21, 2024 16:20:45 GMT -5
Back in the 80s/90s, Jokic would have been CERTAINLY undercut. Besides the rules and penalties changing over the years, people realize that if I hurt you there's going to be payback. Some complain, but I have always liked the post-game handshakes, offering a hand to help up the opposing player, etc. That aspect of the game was MUCH rougher in the old days. Hard to be undercut when you don’t jump |
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Post by scooter on Apr 21, 2024 17:51:11 GMT -5
Back in the 80s/90s, Jokic would have been CERTAINLY undercut. TNF, are you sure Scott Hastings hasn’t stolen your Nuggets Talk account? |
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Post by TNF on Apr 21, 2024 18:53:30 GMT -5
lol When Hastings played you had to be MAN to go out there, and of course Hastings' job was more to hurt people than to score or defend.
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Post by scooter on Apr 22, 2024 11:18:34 GMT -5
I was never a huge Rocky fan, even at his best, but now he's pathetic. It’s entertainment to a huge and varied audience. A relatively small number are hardcore, purist basketball fans. We can insult other folks by calling them “casuals” but I think that’s pretty dumb — they paid their money to be entertained. Att Ball Arena, in addition to “casual” adult fans there are children. The Best of Rocky was fun for kids and for plenty of adult fans as well. It’s true that Rocky today is just a generic game mascot, although I still think the costume is more attractive than what a lot of teams use. Yelling "who's your Daddy" is stupid and makes Denver and Colorado look braindead and disrespectful. Anyone who yells it should be escorted out of the arena...permanently... Respectfully disagree. It’s not profane and it doesn’t threaten violence or anything like that. As fan chants go, it’s harmless and shouldn’t offend anyone. Its good for fans to have chants and songs and such — they have some weird but harmless team songs at English Premier league football games these days and that’s 1000X better than the legitimately dangerous “fan hooligan” stuff they were dealing with there 50-60 years ago. Non-violent fun is exactly the purpose for going to a game. The only thing I consistently dislike about Nuggets’ games is Scott Hastings on Altitude broadcasts. His verbal diarrhea showing off how much he thinks he knows about the Xs and Os of basketball and incessantly coaching the team is boring, old white guy, mansplaining stuff to the nth degree. The whole thing is entertainment. |
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Post by JB on Apr 22, 2024 11:44:14 GMT -5
has there been any instances of a disrespectful chant on the level of 'whose your daddy' being levied towards Messi or Ronaldo? genuine question as I am not the biggest soccer fan in the world. edit: found this, it appears Ronaldo got triggered for something comparatively innocuous: www.bbc.com/sport/football/68433101.ampit would be hilarious if Denver fans starting chanting "Michael" and/or "Jordan", though. I would be on board for that. |
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Post by scooter on Apr 22, 2024 12:22:29 GMT -5
Everyone knows that Lebron is an all-time great. But he had the option of retiring 3-4 years ago and skipping the years of being a less dominant player than he once was. He also had the option of playing his entire career in Cleveland as opposed to going to glamour markets in Miami and LA (and recruiting other players to bolt from their less glamorous teams to join up with him). So he’s made choices that made him to some fans: 1) less likeable, and 2) more vulnerable to being mocked.
He’s an entertainer — and now in the exceedingly small billionaire entertainer club — and we are fans. It’s our perogative to be “disrespectful.” He’s not a king before whom we are required to bow.
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Post by JB on Apr 22, 2024 13:08:51 GMT -5
I don't begrudge LeBron for leaving Cleveland either time, Dan Gilbert always sought the immediate gratification of short-term fixes over building a team capable of long terms success and solely depended on LeBron's brilliance to prop the Cavs up in the regular season, which had diminishing returns in the playoffs. he returned to Cleveland even though Gilbert was extremely disrespectful to him with the now infamous Comic Sans letter, and delivered that downtrodden franchise/city a championship when he had no obligation to.
he did start the superteam movement (Boston Big 3 doesn't count as KG was essentially forced to leave Minnesota for his own good) and the Nuggets, with perhaps with some cosmic justice involved, are essentially ending the superteam movement with their decisive victories over the Suns and LAL. but LeBron has accomplished a lot for the sport, has been as perfect ambarassador for the game as you can ask for (imagine MJ in the 'Gambling is glamorized" era) and deserves a bit more respect, in my opinion. I'm not saying we should bow at his presence, but perhaps knock it off with the 'daddy' jokes to a middle aged man with adult children. it's a bad look.
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Post by famicommander on Apr 22, 2024 13:41:34 GMT -5
Space Jam 2 sux tho
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Post by JB on Apr 22, 2024 13:56:46 GMT -5
no argument there.
Millennials can't write scripts for film/television, especially comedies, I'm sad to report.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2024 14:38:40 GMT -5
Everyone knows that Lebron is an all-time great. But he had the option of retiring 3-4 years ago and skipping the years of being a less dominant player than he once was. He also had the option of playing his entire career in Cleveland as opposed to going to glamour markets in Miami and LA (and recruiting other players to bolt from their less glamorous teams to join up with him). So he’s made choices that made him to some fans: 1) less likeable, and 2) more vulnerable to being mocked. He’s an entertainer — and now in the exceedingly small billionaire entertainer club — and we are fans. It’s our perogative to be “disrespectful.” He’s not a king before whom we are required to bow. Its interesting LeBron decided to never play in NYC for either the Knicks or Nets. Perhaps the media/fan pressure would have been too much? Ironically, LeBron is an attention seeker; and playing in NYC would have garnered him more attention (and possibly more money/fame) than LA or Miami. |
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Post by famicommander on Apr 22, 2024 14:42:13 GMT -5
LeBron way too smart to play for Dolan.
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Post by duh88 on Apr 22, 2024 15:08:42 GMT -5
Everyone knows that Lebron is an all-time great. But he had the option of retiring 3-4 years ago and skipping the years of being a less dominant player than he once was. He also had the option of playing his entire career in Cleveland as opposed to going to glamour markets in Miami and LA (and recruiting other players to bolt from their less glamorous teams to join up with him). So he’s made choices that made him to some fans: 1) less likeable, and 2) more vulnerable to being mocked. He’s an entertainer — and now in the exceedingly small billionaire entertainer club — and we are fans. It’s our perogative to be “disrespectful.” He’s not a king before whom we are required to bow. Its interesting LeBron decided to never play in NYC for either the Knicks or Nets. Perhaps the media/fan pressure would have been too much? Ironically, LeBron is an attention seeker; and playing in NYC would have garnered him more attention (and possibly more money/fame) than LA or Miami. Love NY - but the only cold-weather market lebron was ever going to play in was his hometown. Miami and LA are such incredible towns |
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Post by TNF on Apr 22, 2024 16:13:51 GMT -5
I have never been to Miami. I have travelled more than most, but unlike most who have, I have never experienced more than a brief moment or two on a white-sand beach. Instead I have hiked through rainforests or gone diving in the Barrier Reef.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2024 16:32:30 GMT -5
I have never been to Miami. I have travelled more than most, but unlike most who have, I have never experienced more than a brief moment or two on a white-sand beach. Instead I have hiked through rainforests or gone diving in the Barrier Reef. I live in NYC (Manhattan) but Miami is my favorite city in the country and ive been there like a million times since 2013. I would recommend visiting these places in Miami (and South Florida):- Brickell (Downtown Miami)
- Coconut Grove (LeBron lived here when he was playing for the Heat)
- Key West
- Coral Gables (adjacent to Miami but not part of Miami proper; University of Miami is also located here)
- Key Biscayne (Miami Open -- if you're a tennis fan)
- Boca Raton (very nice city)
- West Palm Beach & Palm Island
- Delray Beach (love this beach! the shops along atlantic avenue are nice too)
- Everglades to see alligators/crocodiles, exotic birds and flamingos
Maybe (for the experience):
- Little Havana (very touristy)
- Little Haiti (the gentrified portion, the rest is unsafe)
- Perez Museum (decent for Miami and South Florida)
- Wynwood (Arts district of Miami that has been gentrified but very touristy)
- Hollywood (Hard Rock Hotel & Casino)
Avoid:
- Miami Beach / South Beach (tourist trap, locals hate it)
- Liberty City (the ghetto)
- Hialeah / Opa-locka (the ghetto)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2024 16:33:38 GMT -5
Like so many New Yorker's, I've considered relocating to Miami / South Florida
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Post by AbdulJabber on Apr 22, 2024 20:02:42 GMT -5
also, yeah, the Who's Your Daddy chant comes off as a bit "I am brand new to success" which on the one hand is true and on the other hand we've had superbowls and Stanley Cups and some deep NBA playoff runs. The Lakers have owned us for a long time in the playoffs, but last year was the time for Who's Your Daddy, not this playoffs. This playoffs, don't do random s**t to piss off their scrubs and make someone angry enough to undercut Jamal or cheap shot Joker. I'd think most players would be more angry at the fans and media than they would at Jamal or Joker who barely say anything. Our players are pretty low-key compared to a lot of teams with the trash talking. But overall, I agree. Let's be done with that silly crap. It bugs me that this has become as much of a story as it has. |
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