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Post by duh88 on Nov 7, 2023 18:30:48 GMT -5
Minnesota hands Boston their first L in OT. Maybe retire the «Towns and Gobert wont work» take. As they have handed the two best teams in the league their only losses They both found a lot of chemistry in the playoffs, which is why I was glad we escaped in 5 games. I hope Calvin has his eyes on a DJ replacement. We need more size to comfortably put away minny. |
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Post by jimijam28 on Nov 7, 2023 19:08:33 GMT -5
Agree Zeke is not going to cut it
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Post by famicommander on Nov 7, 2023 19:17:59 GMT -5
They are definitely afraid to throw Zeke out there against big, physical teams. 6 minutes last night against the Pelicans, and they unfroze Jordan from carbonite to take on Drummond and the Bulls.
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Post by duh88 on Nov 8, 2023 4:51:45 GMT -5
I still think Zeke is going to have a great season. But we need to prep specifically for the wolves and we lack a good backup C.
I don’t want to give up on Zeke because his defense is excellent. Time for DJ tho to join the coaching staff and use some picks to get a decent big in here.
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Post by passtheballquick on Nov 10, 2023 23:00:20 GMT -5
Mavs leading by 21pts, 2 minutes before end and Doncic still on the floor lol. Stat padder in a full swing
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Post by famicommander on Nov 10, 2023 23:25:42 GMT -5
Point differential is the tiebreaker in the tournament standings, so technically he wasn't padding.
Our in-season tournament bracket standings.
1. Nuggets (1-0) +11
2. Rockets (1-0) +3
3. Mavericks (1-1) +7
4. Pelicans (0-1) -3
5. Clippers (0-1) -18
Tuesday's games:
Pelicans @ Mavericks
Clippers @ Nuggets
Friday's games:
Nuggets @ Pelicans
Rockets @ Clippers
11/24
Nuggets @ Rockets
Pelicans @ Clippers
11/28
Rockets @ Mavericks
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 0:54:41 GMT -5
Suns have awful clutch offense. They're lucky to be 4-5.
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 11, 2023 1:33:58 GMT -5
Suns have awful clutch offense. They're lucky to be 4-5. They talked all off season about how their offense would flow late in games. What you’re seeing is a team with their 3 best players that only know how to look for their own shot when things get tight. Best case…they check their egos and become an unselfish group. Worst case…KD and Beal play themselves into exhaustion/injury with 35+ minutes of iso ball game in and game out. |
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 2:04:14 GMT -5
Even if they become unselfish they still lack the pure playmaking and ball handling ability that they need. They are 28th in turnovers and 15th in assists. Booker is their leading assist man and he's out, but he's also their leading turnover guy by quite a bit. The only two players on their roster with an assist to turnover above 2.0 are Nurkic (2.24) and Eric Gordon (2.08). The Nuggets have 7 (Braun, Gillespie, Jackson, Murray, Strawther, Porter, Jokic), the lowest of whom is Joker at 2.42.
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Post by funky on Nov 11, 2023 3:21:05 GMT -5
Minnesota looks tough as nails.
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 3:22:50 GMT -5
Minnesota has an extremely high turnover rate as well. Conley is the only player on their roster with a brain in his skull.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Nov 11, 2023 4:24:30 GMT -5
They wouldnt be this good without brains
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 13:15:34 GMT -5
Assist to turnover ratio of 1.7, barely better than the Suns' 1.6. Neither team is built for a 7 game series. Concern level for the Wolves and Suns is 0.
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Post by GBG on Nov 11, 2023 13:48:34 GMT -5
Suns have awful clutch offense. They're lucky to be 4-5. They talked all off season about how their offense would flow late in games. What you’re seeing is a team with their 3 best players that only know how to look for their own shot when things get tight. Best case…they check their egos and become an unselfish group. Worst case…KD and Beal play themselves into exhaustion/injury with 35+ minutes of iso ball game in and game out. Analyzing the Suns at this stage when they haven’t had their Big Three playing together all season is flawed and premature. Sure, their team is flawed too (older KD and injury-prone Beal and Booker). But let’s wait and see what they can do when all three are playing at the same time, shall we? They are unlikely to be able to play a long postseason healthy, but if they do, don’t dismiss them. |
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 14:14:16 GMT -5
The problem is going to get worse when all three guys are on the court together. They're just going to take turns running iso sets and turning the ball over.
This was the most glaringly obvious result from any of the major offseason moves. Like Booth says, overlapping skills/deficiencies are the silent killer. Over half their rotation plays the same position the same way.
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Post by GBG on Nov 11, 2023 14:32:39 GMT -5
The problem is going to get worse when all three guys are on the court together. They're just going to take turns running iso sets and turning the ball over. This was the most glaringly obvious result from any of the major offseason moves. Like Booth says, overlapping skills/deficiencies are the silent killer. Over half their rotation plays the same position the same way. I don’t doubt that this isn’t an optimally-built team, but let’s see what they actually do on the floor together before declaring their star-studded experiment a bust. They easily could add a PG at the deadline if need be, and they have three top-20 players in the league. The Suns remind me of the Melo/AI Nuggets. Only one ball to go around and two guys who needed the ball. It didn’t get us far. So, yeah, the Suns are likely going nowhere. But we can’t analyze them based on the games they’ve played so far, given that the Big Three haven’t appeared in a single game together yet. |
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 14:35:54 GMT -5
We can, though. Just like we could easily say LeBron and Westbrook weren't going to work before they played together.
And I can confidently tell you that Joker and Embiid together on the floor would be a disaster. I don't need to see that either.
And Beal is not a top 20 player in this league. He hasn't been for years.
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 11, 2023 16:55:19 GMT -5
They talked all off season about how their offense would flow late in games. What you’re seeing is a team with their 3 best players that only know how to look for their own shot when things get tight. Best case…they check their egos and become an unselfish group. Worst case…KD and Beal play themselves into exhaustion/injury with 35+ minutes of iso ball game in and game out. Analyzing the Suns at this stage when they haven’t had their Big Three playing together all season is flawed and premature. Sure, their team is flawed too (older KD and injury-prone Beal and Booker). But let’s wait and see what they can do when all three are playing at the same time, shall we? They are unlikely to be able to play a long postseason healthy, but if they do, don’t dismiss them. I think you’re speaking to the point though. Sure, in a perfect world where these super injury prone guys stay healthy and magically learn to work within an offense without a point guard…the league should be worried. At this point I’d say it’s equally flawed to analyze them with all 3 on the court since it appears more than likely they’ll be rolling without at least one of them for chunks of the season and possibly the post season. |
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Post by GBG on Nov 11, 2023 16:59:40 GMT -5
Analyzing the Suns at this stage when they haven’t had their Big Three playing together all season is flawed and premature. Sure, their team is flawed too (older KD and injury-prone Beal and Booker). But let’s wait and see what they can do when all three are playing at the same time, shall we? They are unlikely to be able to play a long postseason healthy, but if they do, don’t dismiss them. I think you’re speaking to the point though. Sure, in a perfect world where these super injury prone guys stay healthy and magically learn to work within an offense without a point guard…the league should be worried. At this point I’d say it’s equally flawed to analyze them with all 3 on the court since it appears more than likely they’ll be rolling without at least one of them for chunks of the season and possibly the post season. We don’t know that, especially with regard to the postseason. Hope you’re right since they’d be a dangerous postseason team if healthy. Other team’s fans say Nuggets had outsized luck by being fully healthy for 20 postseason games, and that this is unlikely to repeat. So it goes both ways. |
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Post by famicommander on Nov 11, 2023 17:16:12 GMT -5
Except that the Suns are old and have way, way more of an injury history. It's not an apt comparison. Beal, Durant, and Nurk haven't been healthy in 5 years.
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