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Post by sawyeral on Apr 12, 2024 23:03:13 GMT -5
Looks like Nugs and Pels round 1.
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Post by GBG on Apr 12, 2024 23:07:32 GMT -5
Is there any reason we don’t rest Jok on Sunday to try to guarantee the 3 seed? That would give us the Pels, which would be a nice first round and if we lose then Minny has the tiebreaker over OKC so if they both win which is likely then it’s OKC at 2, which would be a better round 2 than the Wolves. Don’t rest anyone until we know that OKC and Minny have won. Thing is, all three games are at the same time on Sunday, 1:30 pm our time. So just play this game to win. I feel it will be a blowout W anyway, so our starters can rest in fourth quarter.
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 12, 2024 23:57:39 GMT -5
Any of the warriors-kings-lakers round one would’ve been ideal. Oh well.
Unrelated…I still think Sabonis is one of the least impactful players for a big man that puts up the stats he does. He strikes fear in absolutely zero opponents hearts.
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 13, 2024 0:21:09 GMT -5
I guess those of you that are sweating the suns round 1 are rooting for either a Minny win + Pels win or a Minny loss + Pels loss + Nug win on Sunday.
1 seed long gone. Mavs seem to be resting everyone and will again presumably against OKC on Sunday. Sadly the young inexperienced Thunder are mature enough to kick the s**t out of inferior teams when seeding is on the line.
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Post by duh88 on Apr 13, 2024 0:35:58 GMT -5
The Pels have been the one team I’ve wanted to avoid. Tons of size - tons of skill.
The Pels are one of the few teams that Malone hasn’t been able to come up with good games plans against.
Play to win on sunday - avoid the Pels.
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 13, 2024 0:42:20 GMT -5
The Pels have been the one team I’ve wanted to avoid. Tons of size - tons of skill. The Pels are one of the few teams that Malone hasn’t been able to come up with good games plans against. Play to win on sunday - avoid the Pels. I definitely want the Suns more than the Pels. At this point, why worry? They put all this madness into play by being fucktards tonight. Just whatever.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 13, 2024 2:44:41 GMT -5
Luka is averaging nearly a 34 point triple double. Of course he should get some first place votes. They finished with 50+ wins. If Luka and Jokic flipped seeding Luka would be the MVP and it wouldn't be close. You also have to be fair and point out that a good amount of advanced stats favor bigs. If the Nuggets and Mavs take care of business we will be getting Luka vs Jokic in Round 2 which is very scary. As I've said all year, the only way to beat Denver is to outscore them with elite talent. The Mavs can do that. Who cares what he's averaging if his numbers are drastically inferior to Jokic? Because they are. Jokic won more games in a much tougher division with a weaker supporting cast while putting up way better numbers. The advanced stats favor Jokic not because he's a big, but because Luka is quite literally a negative value player without the ball in his hands. He's a top tier HOF player when he has the ball, but he's a ridiculously bad defender and he's almost completely passive on offense without the ball. He doesn't cut, he doesn't screen, he doesn't box out, he doesn't move without the ball. At the very most he'll move around some when they're calling a play to get him a jumper in his favorite spots, but that's it. That's why Luka's impact numbers never correlate to his box score stats like they do for guys like Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Curry, LeBron, etc. Because he's only engaged on one end of the floor, and only when the game is close, and only when he has the ball. In all other instances he absolutely doesn't care. jokic has a weaker supporting cast?
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Post by Ring on Apr 13, 2024 4:42:58 GMT -5
Would you rather have the 3 seed and be locked into Pelicans but not have home court vs Minnesota should both team reach Round 2 or
would you rather have the 2 seed and play Phoenix but have home court for a Round 2 matchup against Minny should both teams make Round 2?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 5:32:38 GMT -5
Would you rather have the 3 seed and be locked into Pelicans but not have home court vs Minnesota should both team reach Round 2 or would you rather have the 2 seed and play Phoenix but have home court for a Round 2 matchup against Minny should both teams make Round 2?Obviously the 2 seed and play Phoenix and home court against Minnesota OKC will definitely lose in round 1 or 2, enabling Denver to have home court in the WCF
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 13, 2024 5:45:29 GMT -5
Boneshead probably saved his NBA with these two games
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Post by duh88 on Apr 13, 2024 6:39:53 GMT -5
Would you rather have the 3 seed and be locked into Pelicans but not have home court vs Minnesota should both team reach Round 2 or would you rather have the 2 seed and play Phoenix but have home court for a Round 2 matchup against Minny should both teams make Round 2? I don't want the Pels at all. I fear there's a lot of bad matchup issues (for us) with that team. PHX - we are stacked with wing defenders. I don't fear PHX at all. Minny could definitely lose on sunday to the Suns - they're playing to escape the play-in - so our guys need to win in Memphis.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Apr 13, 2024 7:02:39 GMT -5
I'm still trying to get it all sorted.
Denver at Memphis Lakers at Pelicans Suns at Wolves Mavs at Thunder
Mavs will rest vs Thunder. Should be a blowout win for OKC. If we play our starters, we probably will just barely eek out a win and have like 7 guys sprain their ankle(100% rock-mode).
Suns at Wolves should be a good one. The Suns are desperately trying to avoid the play-in. I've never seen a team so pumped after a win than they were after the Kings game. They wanted that thing BAD. They'll treat this like it's game 7. Wolves won't have as much pressure, but they might also struggle to match the Suns intensity. My gut tells me the Suns will choke, but we'll see.
Lakers at Pelicans should also be an intense game. Maybe even more than the Suns/wolves. The Lakers will likely drop all the way to 10th with a loss. They know just how fucked they are if that happens. But the Pels are just as desperate to avoid the play-in as the Suns and it's a much easier game for them. There's a little extra incentive too, because if they lose, they'll have to play the Lakers again in the play-in after just losing to them.
End of the day, we do have to try to win game 82 even though I'm not too happy about it. It's too much of a clusterfuck to know who's gonna be the 6th 7th and 8th seed, but the 2nd seed gives us our best chance to repeat.
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Post by somborshuffle on Apr 13, 2024 7:37:41 GMT -5
Would you rather have the 3 seed and be locked into Pelicans but not have home court vs Minnesota should both team reach Round 2 or would you rather have the 2 seed and play Phoenix but have home court for a Round 2 matchup against Minny should both teams make Round 2? I don't want the Pels at all. I fear there's a lot of bad matchup issues (for us) with that team. PHX - we are stacked with wing defenders. I don't fear PHX at all. Minny could definitely lose on sunday to the Suns - they're playing to escape the play-in - so our guys need to win in Memphis. The Pelicans have size but other than the Warriors they might be the easiest match up for Jokic. He will shred them. I also don't believe in the Pelicans in the clutch. Is that team really going to beat a locked in Nuggets over 7 games?
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 13, 2024 7:50:58 GMT -5
I'm still trying to get it all sorted. Denver at Memphis Lakers at Pelicans Suns at Wolves Mavs at Thunder Mavs will rest vs Thunder. Should be a blowout win for OKC. If we play our starters, we probably will just barely eek out a win and have like 7 guys sprain their ankle(100% rock-mode). Suns at Wolves should be a good one. The Suns are desperately trying to avoid the play-in. I've never seen a team so pumped after a win than they were after the Kings game. They wanted that thing BAD. They'll treat this like it's game 7. Wolves won't have as much pressure, but they might also struggle to match the Suns intensity. My gut tells me the Suns will choke, but we'll see. Lakers at Pelicans should also be an intense game. Maybe even more than the Suns/wolves. The Lakers will likely drop all the way to 10th with a loss. They know just how fucked they are if that happens. But the Pels are just as desperate to avoid the play-in as the Suns and it's a much easier game for them. There's a little extra incentive too, because if they lose, they'll have to play the Lakers again in the play-in after just losing to them. End of the day, we do have to try to win game 82 even though I'm not too happy about it. It's too much of a clusterfuck to know who's gonna be the 6th 7th and 8th seed, but the 2nd seed gives us our best chance to repeat. Our best chances to repeat are not second seed but Jokic and Murray very well rested physically and mentally. No team can beat us 4 times out of 7 in that scenario. Jokic is mentally tired and last night showed it clearly
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 13, 2024 11:02:09 GMT -5
Would you rather have the 3 seed and be locked into Pelicans but not have home court vs Minnesota should both team reach Round 2 or would you rather have the 2 seed and play Phoenix but have home court for a Round 2 matchup against Minny should both teams make Round 2? Pelicans are a tougher matchup than Phoenix, so definitely the latter is preferable.
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Post by GBG on Apr 13, 2024 11:05:11 GMT -5
Would you rather have the 3 seed and be locked into Pelicans but not have home court vs Minnesota should both team reach Round 2 or would you rather have the 2 seed and play Phoenix but have home court for a Round 2 matchup against Minny should both teams make Round 2? Pelicans are a tougher matchup than Phoenix, so definitely the latter is preferable. Phoenix beat us in Denver (TWICE). They know they can win here, and believe in themselves. They took us to 6 games last time, and this time I think it would go 7, and that game will be scary for us. I still want 2nd seed, though.
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 13, 2024 11:10:57 GMT -5
Pelicans are a tougher matchup than Phoenix, so definitely the latter is preferable. Phoenix beat us in Denver (TWICE). They know they can win here, and believe in themselves. They took us to 6 games last time, and this time I think it would go 7, and that game will be scary for us. I still want 2nd seed, though. Houston beat us twice at home. So did OKC. In the suns’ 2 wins, one was in OT after Durant saved the game and Grayson Allen started off like 8-8 from 3. Next game was without Murray when we were playing our worst basketball post ASB. As I’ve said before…Phx is a mentally weak team…and they’re an absolute mess right now. No way can they beat Denver 4 times. No f***ing way.
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Post by JB on Apr 13, 2024 11:37:47 GMT -5
I don't think of it in terms of who can beat the Nuggets, as we are the best team in the league and will be even better once Mr. Malone frees himself of the Reggie Jackson anchor in the same manner he cut his beloved Will Barton loose in 2019 after Barton made it clear to him he was incapable of helping the team.
I look at in terms of which team is more likely of triggering Murphy's law and that team is clearly the Phoenix Suns. and even though they might not beat us, they are capable of taking a figurative bite out of the Nuggets that will impact us for the rest of the run.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 13, 2024 12:17:11 GMT -5
I don't think of it in terms of who can beat the Nuggets, as we are the best team in the league and will be even better once Mr. Malone frees himself of the Reggie Jackson anchor in the same manner he cut his beloved Will Barton loose in 2019 after Barton made it clear to him he was incapable of helping the team. I look at in terms of which team is more likely of triggering Murphy's law and that team is clearly the Phoenix Suns. and even though they might not beat us, they are capable of taking a figurative bite out of the Nuggets that will impact us for the rest of the run. We won't repat it this year. Jokic is tired (more mentally than physically) and he won't be able to win us 16 games. You'll see him grumpy and crying at the refs very soon. Gordon can barely stand on his feet and mpj is mpj, tired again. We spilled the huge opportunity to rest the starters the last 2 weeks.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Apr 13, 2024 12:27:37 GMT -5
I don't think of it in terms of who can beat the Nuggets, as we are the best team in the league and will be even better once Mr. Malone frees himself of the Reggie Jackson anchor in the same manner he cut his beloved Will Barton loose in 2019 after Barton made it clear to him he was incapable of helping the team. I look at in terms of which team is more likely of triggering Murphy's law and that team is clearly the Phoenix Suns. and even though they might not beat us, they are capable of taking a figurative bite out of the Nuggets that will impact us for the rest of the run. We won't repat it this year. Jokic is tired (more mentally than physically) and he won't be able to win us 16 games. You'll see him grumpy and crying at the refs very soon. Gordon can barely stand on his feet and mpj is mpj, tired again. We spilled the huge opportunity to rest the starters the last 2 weeks. Your getting to be ridiculous. We're going to have like 7 days off before we play a game. Like if our players who outside of KCP are in there 20s still can't ve rested enough for this playoff run with 7 days off then we were never going to win it in the first place. Truthfully if we had taken things more seriously in then middle of the season and not lose to a bunch of trash teams we could of rested more. But it's not rest that's going to cost us. These guys also don't play any back to backs in the playoffs. The rest thing is overrated.
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