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Post by Ring on May 19, 2023 7:47:22 GMT -5
The Nuggets have another opportunity, just like they had in the Phoenix series to really make a statement. I expect Lebron to have his best game of the playoffs.
I am begging the Nuggets to be mature enough to understand the magnitude of this game. There is no 2-0 lead. Treat this game like it's a Game 7. You cannot give LA momentum. You win this game and your chances of making the finals are probably at 95%. Understand how important of a game this is. Understand what is on the line.
Jokic, it's time for a takeover "f**k you" 4th quarter game. It's time.
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 19, 2023 8:16:46 GMT -5
LETS f**k
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Post by duh88 on May 19, 2023 8:43:20 GMT -5
I think Jokic is battling “the illness” bug.
Fortunately, LA is at sea level, and he has 24 hours to get some IV therapy and be ready.
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Post by jimijam28 on May 19, 2023 9:35:38 GMT -5
s**t thread, easy w
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Post by sawyeral on May 19, 2023 10:28:07 GMT -5
. You win this game and your chances of making the finals are probably at 95%.. Historically, your chances are 100%. |
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Post by freakns on May 19, 2023 10:57:27 GMT -5
up until all star break Nuggets were no1 transition offense in NBA. when they are locked in, they run better then anyone else. also, Lakers transition defense is their achilles heel. so if you want to win, you know the recipe. play defense and run, run, run. this will create good looks, plus it will tire LeBron and AD. Jokic grabbing defensive rebounds and relentlessly running up the floor is killing opposing bigs. he it tiring himself that way too, but he is OK with sacrificing himself to get others going, and then defer to them later on. thats Nuggets winning basketball.
also, last night, and this will not be talked about, Jokic had 3 steals, Jamal had 4. thats overall defense, not only them, but everyone staying connected and those two were just finishing blows.
its going to be 100 times harder to win in LA, but, I hope team understand, as ring said, they need to treat this game as game 7. thats the only way you have chance to win it. first 10 wins were not easy, but every next one is exponentially harder.
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Post by jimijam28 on May 19, 2023 11:01:48 GMT -5
Yawn
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Post by rock on May 19, 2023 11:08:42 GMT -5
I’d like to see malone go deeper into the bench. At least a little
We cannot sustain a now 7 man rotation. Guys are playing too many minutes.
Get Reggie, Zeke even DAJ in there for 3-4 minutes twice a game.
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Post by GBG on May 19, 2023 11:21:48 GMT -5
I’d like to see malone go deeper into the bench. At least a little We cannot sustain a now 7 man rotation. Guys are playing too many minutes. Get Reggie, Zeke even DAJ in there for 3-4 minutes twice a game. Exactly. We will burn out playing less than 7.5 guys, especially if we reach finals and face Celtics. That series would be nearly impossible for us to win if we aren’t even giving 8 guys a chance to play double digit minutes. |
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Post by Ring on May 19, 2023 11:33:13 GMT -5
I’d like to see malone go deeper into the bench. At least a little We cannot sustain a now 7 man rotation. Guys are playing too many minutes. Get Reggie, Zeke even DAJ in there for 3-4 minutes twice a game. Exactly. We will burn out playing less than 7.5 guys, especially if we reach finals and face Celtics. That series would be nearly impossible for us to win if we aren’t even giving 8 guys a chance to play double digit minutes. The Nuggets play 8 guys. The Lakers play 8 guys. It's not a big deal. This is the WCF. 8 man rotations are the standard. Game 3 maybe Malone can lower the minute total since it's likely to be a blowout. We'll see. |
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Post by rock on May 19, 2023 11:39:35 GMT -5
Exactly. We will burn out playing less than 7.5 guys, especially if we reach finals and face Celtics. That series would be nearly impossible for us to win if we aren’t even giving 8 guys a chance to play double digit minutes. The Nuggets play 8 guys. The Lakers play 8 guys. It's not a big deal. This is the WCF. 8 man rotations are the standard. Game 3 maybe Malone can lower the minute total since it's likely to be a blowout. We'll see. I was curious what other rotations look like so far: Celtics play 7 guys 22+ mpg. Grant Williams is #8 at 13 mpg. But have a few guys who get 5-8 mpg. The heat play 7 guys 20+ mpg and Duncan robinson is #8 at 17 mpg. Then two other guys who get 8-10 The lakers play 6 guys 22+ mpg. Then 3 more guys (vando, Walker, brown) 11-17. Beasley is #10 but he doesn’t seem to play anymore? So I guess the rotations across the board are generally 7-8. However the other 3 teams do at least play a couple guys some minutes here and there. |
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Post by GBG on May 19, 2023 11:40:17 GMT -5
Exactly. We will burn out playing less than 7.5 guys, especially if we reach finals and face Celtics. That series would be nearly impossible for us to win if we aren’t even giving 8 guys a chance to play double digit minutes. The Nuggets play 8 guys. The Lakers play 8 guys. It's not a big deal. This is the WCF. 8 man rotations are the standard. Game 3 maybe Malone can lower the minute total since it's likely to be a blowout. We'll see. Except we didn’t really play eight guys last night. CB played only 4:30, RJ a couple minutes, and only seven guys played in second half (ie CB landed in doghouse). What I’m saying is 8+ guys have to regularly get in these games for 10+ minutes each. Or else burnout is coming. And then anything can happen, even if the opponent itself is burned out. I don’t trust Malone to keep us fresh for sixteen playoff wins. Maybe it won’t matter because Murray and Jokic are heroes, if not superheroes, and will do whatever it takes to win the chip, burnout or not. |
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Post by Ring on May 19, 2023 12:51:20 GMT -5
The Nuggets play 8 guys. The Lakers play 8 guys. It's not a big deal. This is the WCF. 8 man rotations are the standard. Game 3 maybe Malone can lower the minute total since it's likely to be a blowout. We'll see. Except we didn’t really play eight guys last night. CB played only 4:30, RJ a couple minutes, and only seven guys played in second half (ie CB landed in doghouse). What I’m saying is 8+ guys have to regularly get in these games for 10+ minutes each. Or else burnout is coming. And then anything can happen, even if the opponent itself is burned out. I don’t trust Malone to keep us fresh for sixteen playoff wins. Maybe it won’t matter because Murray and Jokic are heroes, if not superheroes, and will do whatever it takes to win the chip, burnout or not. CB has to not be terrible. Game flow also dictates a ton of stuff. You can't play a 8+ man rotation and split minutes properly when you're down 10 for basically the entire 2nd and 3rd quarter. |
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Post by scooter on May 19, 2023 13:24:24 GMT -5
Except we didn’t really play eight guys last night. CB played only 4:30, RJ a couple minutes, and only seven guys played in second half (ie CB landed in doghouse). What I’m saying is 8+ guys have to regularly get in these games for 10+ minutes each. Or else burnout is coming. And then anything can happen, even if the opponent itself is burned out. I don’t trust Malone to keep us fresh for sixteen playoff wins. Maybe it won’t matter because Murray and Jokic are heroes, if not superheroes, and will do whatever it takes to win the chip, burnout or not. CB has to not be terrible. Game flow also dictates a ton of stuff. You can't play a 8+ man rotation and split minutes properly when you're down 10 for basically the entire 2nd and 3rd quarter. Malone needs to coach to win the games. He’s not coaching the 95-96 Bulls, who went 72-10 and then had 1 loss total in the playoffs heading into the Finals. What Malone has done has worked. I think Jackson is playable because he has skills and experience. I wouldn’t mind seeing him again in this series. It would be nice to see some offensive contribution off the bench from someone other than Brown. I don’t expect it to happen because Malone doesn’t trust him, but I’ve mentioned Bryant for the same reason. Offense is important too. |
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Post by Ring on May 19, 2023 13:32:51 GMT -5
CB has to not be terrible. Game flow also dictates a ton of stuff. You can't play a 8+ man rotation and split minutes properly when you're down 10 for basically the entire 2nd and 3rd quarter. Malone needs to coach to win the games. He’s not coaching the 95-96 Bulls, who went 72-10 and then had 1 loss total in the playoffs heading into the Finals. What Malone has done has worked. I think Jackson is playable because he has skills and experience. I wouldn’t mind seeing him again in this series. It would be nice to see some offensive contribution off the bench from someone other than Brown. I don’t expect it to happen because Malone doesn’t trust him, but I’ve mentioned Bryant for the same reason. Offense is important too. Jackson is really bad defensively but I don't think it's a terrible idea to give him 5 minutes in Game 3 if needed. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 19, 2023 14:03:06 GMT -5
I’d like to see malone go deeper into the bench. At least a little We cannot sustain a now 7 man rotation. Guys are playing too many minutes. Get Reggie, Zeke even DAJ in there for 3-4 minutes twice a game. Exactly. We will burn out playing less than 7.5 guys, especially if we reach finals and face Celtics. That series would be nearly impossible for us to win if we aren’t even giving 8 guys a chance to play double digit minutes. not if we sweep Calvin done a great job but he failed Malone with the bench |
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Post by Ring on May 19, 2023 14:51:46 GMT -5
Exactly. We will burn out playing less than 7.5 guys, especially if we reach finals and face Celtics. That series would be nearly impossible for us to win if we aren’t even giving 8 guys a chance to play double digit minutes. not if we sweep Calvin done a great job but he failed Malone with the bench Only so much stuff you can add though man. He added a starter, a sixth man and a seventh/eight man. Realistically he just needed to add one more piece. Missing on Jackson/Bryant hurts. |
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Post by GBG on May 19, 2023 14:54:01 GMT -5
CB has to not be terrible. Game flow also dictates a ton of stuff. You can't play a 8+ man rotation and split minutes properly when you're down 10 for basically the entire 2nd and 3rd quarter. What Malone has done has worked. Yes it has. Yet, it’s no reason to stand pat and not work in some new guys. Or just increase rotation to 8.5 from 7.5. As people often said in the industry in which I worked before retirement, “The idea has worked and will continue to work….until it doesn’t”. |
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Post by Ring on May 19, 2023 15:00:44 GMT -5
What Malone has done has worked. Yes it has. Yet, it’s no reason to stand pat and not work in some new guys. Or just increase rotation to 8.5 from 7.5. As people often said in the industry in which I worked before retirement, “The idea has worked and will continue to work….until it doesn’t”. It's too risky for Malone to adjust though. That's what it comes down to. He doesn't trust the other guys on the team and all it takes is a bad 3-4 minute stretch to end a playoff game. 8 man rotation is the way to go. CB and Jeff have to stop being dreadful. |
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Post by GBG on May 19, 2023 15:02:57 GMT -5
Yes it has. Yet, it’s no reason to stand pat and not work in some new guys. Or just increase rotation to 8.5 from 7.5. As people often said in the industry in which I worked before retirement, “The idea has worked and will continue to work….until it doesn’t”. It's too risky for Malone to adjust though. That's what it comes down to. He doesn't trust the other guys on the team and all it takes is a bad 3-4 minute stretch to end a playoff game. 8 man rotation is the way to go. CB and Jeff have to stop being dreadful. CB has been good on the defensive side of the ball, but Jeff is good for nothing except for taking occasional charges. I don’t expect that to change. |
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