|
|
Post by blackhill on May 18, 2023 12:01:24 GMT -5
This lady from ESPN says she just saw Joker play for the first time. The lady interviewing her does not know how to pronounce his name. This is not worth watching, but I am including the link www.youtube.com/watch?v=blil2hee5eo |
|
|
|
Post by blackhill on May 18, 2023 12:08:52 GMT -5
Maybe my fav Bones moment is when he gave Mr. Tony a big hug after a game, a hug Mr. Tony did not care for.
|
|
|
|
Post by scooter on May 18, 2023 12:41:07 GMT -5
Green has been our weak link, and some folks make the mistake that correlation equals causation. Because we’re 9-3 in the playoffs with a steady 8-man rotation, including 19.2 mpg from Green, it’s easy to say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. I’ve had such debate offline with scooter and believe that Green minutes could at least be cut from over 19 minutes to maybe 10 mpg, if not taken out of rotation entirely. I’ve advocated for a 9-man rotation if Green’s minutes are cut, giving the 10 minutes freed up to Zeke. Maybe he’s been inactive for so long, he’d be rusty. Maybe he’s lost his self-confidence or never had much. But take a look at the hurdle he’d have to surpass in terms of Green’s numbers: Jeff Green in Playoffs, 12 games at 19.2 mpg… PER of 4.9 WS/48 of .033. This is shockingly bad for a 9-3 team. FG%/3PT% of .372/.272. TS% of 48.2%. Rebounds at 1.8 per game. Surely, someone on our bench (Zeke? Cancar? Watson?!) could play backup PF better than this. One doesn’t have to believe we have quality depth to think so. Malone seems to think Jeff Green is Paul Millsap, and that his contribution on defense is worth the poor shooting and lackluster rebounds. I don’t think so, but Malone has had playoff success and maybe shouldn’t be questioned. Again, correlation/causation, IMO. Thoughts? I think Nnaji is basically a poor man’s Green and Cancar and Watson have never played 4/5 in their lives. If the Nuggets were to make a change at backup big, I’d go bigger with either Jordan or Bryant and force Davis/Lebron to bang with big guys the whole game. |
|
|
|
Post by famicommander on May 18, 2023 12:44:34 GMT -5
Green has been our weak link, and some folks make the mistake that correlation equals causation. Because we’re 9-3 in the playoffs with a steady 8-man rotation, including 19.2 mpg from Green, it’s easy to say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. I’ve had such debate offline with scooter and believe that Green minutes could at least be cut from over 19 minutes to maybe 10 mpg, if not taken out of rotation entirely. I’ve advocated for a 9-man rotation if Green’s minutes are cut, giving the 10 minutes freed up to Zeke. Maybe he’s been inactive for so long, he’d be rusty. Maybe he’s lost his self-confidence or never had much. But take a look at the hurdle he’d have to surpass in terms of Green’s numbers: Jeff Green in Playoffs, 12 games at 19.2 mpg… PER of 4.9 WS/48 of .033. This is shockingly bad for a 9-3 team. FG%/3PT% of .372/.272. TS% of 48.2%. Rebounds at 1.8 per game. Surely, someone on our bench (Zeke? Cancar? Watson?!) could play backup PF better than this. One doesn’t have to believe we have quality depth to think so. Malone seems to think Jeff Green is Paul Millsap, and that his contribution on defense is worth the poor shooting and lackluster rebounds. I don’t think so, but Malone has had playoff success and maybe shouldn’t be questioned. Again, correlation/causation, IMO. Thoughts? I think Nnaji is basically a poor man’s Green and Cancar and Watson have never played 4/5 in their lives. If the Nuggets were to make a change at backup big, I’d go bigger with either Jordan or Bryant and force Davis/Lebron to bang with big guys the whole game. Cancar's career usage percentage by position PF: 73% C: 13% SF: 12% SG: 1% PG: 0% |
|
|
|
Post by Ring on May 18, 2023 12:58:55 GMT -5
There is no rotational piece to change. None of the guys you can swap Jeff out for are good enough players and all have major weaknesses. That also ignores that they haven't played in ages and will be rusty.
MPJ just has to play more minutes. Simple as that. Instead of playing 32-34, get him to the 34-40 range. It's the WCF.
|
|
|
|
Post by GBG on May 18, 2023 13:06:13 GMT -5
There is no rotational piece to change. None of the guys you can swap Jeff out for are good enough players and all have major weaknesses. That also ignores that they haven't played in ages and will be rusty. MPJ just has to play more minutes. Simple as that. Instead of playing 32-34, get him to the 34-40 range. It's the WCF. The rusty argument I would buy. The “poor man’s Green” argument I reject, as Zeke and even Cancar has young legs, and Green has been overplayed at even just 19.2 mpg. Cut him to 10 mpg and give those extra minutes to MPJ, if you’d like. I think that helps. But cutting Green minutes will really help. |
|
|
|
Post by scooter on May 18, 2023 14:01:41 GMT -5
There is no rotational piece to change. None of the guys you can swap Jeff out for are good enough players and all have major weaknesses. That also ignores that they haven't played in ages and will be rusty. MPJ just has to play more minutes. Simple as that. Instead of playing 32-34, get him to the 34-40 range. It's the WCF. The rusty argument I would buy. The “poor man’s Green” argument I reject, as Zeke and even Cancar has young legs, and Green has been overplayed at even just 19.2 mpg. Cut him to 10 mpg and give those extra minutes to MPJ, if you’d like. I think that helps. But cutting Green minutes will really help. MPJ sucks at defending big guys because he gets outmuscled. He’s good on the glass, though. Green hasn’t been a disaster — he’s drawn a few charges, doesn’t turn the ball over much (a big big factor with those minutes) and has made guys work for their points. If the Nuggets make it to the Finals, maybe you can cut down the bench minutes even more. But it seems like the starters are already playing about as much as one should want. Young legs on guys like Nnaji and Cancar will not in any way prevent Lebron from stealing the ball from them. That’s exactly what I see happening if they were matched up. The reason why I don’t think our big stiffs — Jordan and Bryant — are out of the question for this series is that the Lakers are not a spread pick and roll team, they don’t space the court very well, and they are relatively slow. |
|
|
|
Post by Ring on May 18, 2023 14:42:15 GMT -5
Can we please win tonight? I know I'm one of the pessimistic guys on here ala rock but I'm expecting a double digit loss  |
|
|
|
Post by famicommander on May 18, 2023 14:47:05 GMT -5
Can we please win tonight? I know I'm one of the pessimistic guys on here ala rock but I'm expecting a double digit loss We're winning this game by 15+. We took their best punch in game 1. They came in rested, they knew they needed game 1, they got ridiculous 3 point efficiency (so did we, but they shot far higher above their average than we did), they got a huge game from LeBron and AD on high efficiency, and they still lost. |
|
|
|
Post by rock on May 18, 2023 14:49:03 GMT -5
Can we please win tonight? I know I'm one of the pessimistic guys on here ala rock but I'm expecting a double digit loss Im also one of those guys like rock. Im a f***ing mess today. 100% expecting a loss. |
|
|
|
Post by Ring on May 18, 2023 14:51:40 GMT -5
Can we please win tonight? I know I'm one of the pessimistic guys on here ala rock but I'm expecting a double digit loss Im also one of those guys like rock. Im a f***ing mess today. 100% expecting a loss. Same. I literally have no confidence. It sucks. I just can't imagine we play as well offensively as we did in Game 1 and I do not trust our defense. |
|
|
|
Post by Coach Sticky on May 18, 2023 14:57:22 GMT -5
We’re going to blow them out. Lakers shot incredibly good in the 2nd half of G1. MPJ will go bananas. Nuggets by 22.
|
|
|
|
Post by scooter on May 18, 2023 15:01:52 GMT -5
I’ll be at the game with my son and when it comes to fan energy, we intend to bring it.
|
|
|
|
Post by famicommander on May 18, 2023 15:03:52 GMT -5
I’ll be at the game with my son and when it comes to fan energy, we intend to bring it. Throw your son at LeBron. Tell him to take one for the team. |
|
|
|
Post by scooter on May 18, 2023 15:09:41 GMT -5
I’ll be at the game with my son and when it comes to fan energy, we intend to bring it. Throw your son at LeBron. Tell him to take one for the team. My son weighs at least 30 pounds more than do I so throwing him won’t be part of the plan. We are plenty vocal, though. |
|
|
|
Post by rock on May 18, 2023 15:11:56 GMT -5
Throw your son at LeBron. Tell him to take one for the team. My son weighs at least 30 pounds more than do I so throwing him won’t be part of the plan. We are plenty vocal, though. Good point Son throws scooter instead. |
|
|
|
Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on May 18, 2023 15:24:16 GMT -5
I’ll be at the game with my son and when it comes to fan energy, we intend to bring it. I'll be there with my mom. Say hi if you have a chance. |
|
|
|
Post by rock on May 18, 2023 15:27:30 GMT -5
I’ll be at the game with my son and when it comes to fan energy, we intend to bring it. I'll be there with my mom. Say hi if you have a chance. Ok this is good. So far we have scooters son throwing him at Lebron. Now lothar is bringing his mom to throw. Keep it up guys. Do it for the team |
|
|
|
Post by blackhill on May 18, 2023 15:29:08 GMT -5
Misc.
Rewatched game 1. Lakers only really looked good last 5 minutes or so of the game. The over switching on Lebron was the main problem on the D. That and Mal was too tired to do much opn close outs.
MPJ did fine on Lebron game 1. He can defend Rui too, no problem. Put him, KCP, Brown or Murray - whoever AD is assigned to - in the weakside corner and that roaming will be destroyed. Key is to have shooters that AD cannot afford to dare to beat. Otherwise, I hope AG is ready to shoot.
|
|
|
|
Post by GBG on May 18, 2023 15:49:35 GMT -5
The rusty argument I would buy. The “poor man’s Green” argument I reject, as Zeke and even Cancar has young legs, and Green has been overplayed at even just 19.2 mpg. Cut him to 10 mpg and give those extra minutes to MPJ, if you’d like. I think that helps. But cutting Green minutes will really help. MPJ sucks at defending big guys because he gets outmuscled. He’s good on the glass, though. Green hasn’t been a disaster — he’s drawn a few charges, doesn’t turn the ball over I still don’t know what MPJ ever did to you to warrant the constant hatred and derision. As for Green, it is like we watch two different games. Maybe the Green you see is more like Draymond. The one I see isn’t even as tough as JMG. And the reason he doesn’t turn the ball over is that the ball is rarely in his hands. When it is, he’s usually going up for a slam (that he often bricks these days) or bricking a corner three. He rarely passes the ball out of his hands. |
|
