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Post by jimijam28 on May 2, 2023 20:08:51 GMT -5
One poster said: Booker and Jokic are on the same level, the "only" difference is in rebounding where Jokic has 35 and Booker 9, lol we should ban him |
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Post by JB on May 2, 2023 20:57:51 GMT -5
Hooker was winning 19-24 games per season before Rubio and later Paul were brought on to provide something resembling an offensive structure, while Jokic never dipped below 40 games in his career.
not even close.
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 2, 2023 21:42:05 GMT -5
. Also, let's be honest. Devin Booker is freaking beast and legit superstar. He is, without shadow of a doubt, top 10 player in NBA. We may hate it, but it is like that. He is on Jokic's level Ban this guy |
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Post by jimijam28 on May 2, 2023 21:45:32 GMT -5
. Also, let's be honest. Devin Booker is freaking beast and legit superstar. He is, without shadow of a doubt, top 10 player in NBA. We may hate it, but it is like that. He is on Jokic's level Ban this guy how you do that |
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 2, 2023 21:58:37 GMT -5
I DID THIS
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Post by AbdulJabber on May 3, 2023 1:04:07 GMT -5
CP0 re-evaluation in one week, so he's out for a while here Big loss for the Suns. Not saying anyone has to like Paul, but he was still running that offense at a high level. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 3, 2023 1:37:02 GMT -5
People loved to talk about how Suns always face injured teams bit are awfully quiet when its the other way around.
CP3 going down could mean sweep that would mean extra rest that could mean ring
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Post by duh88 on May 3, 2023 1:44:15 GMT -5
Question:
Was cp3 doing that great of a job running the offense?
I’m asking because - is there a scenario where cam Payne is an upgrade, due to fresh legs?
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Post by BBBbbb on May 3, 2023 2:29:07 GMT -5
People loved to talk about how Suns always face injured teams bit are awfully quiet when its the other way around. CP3 going down could mean sweep that would mean extra rest that could mean ring CP3, Kawhi, PG and to an extent AD going down at one point during a playoff run (if even available) is something to be expected after a long history of that repeating over and over...
people should stop talking about what these players used to be 5+ years ago and expect it now.
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Post by AbdulJabber on May 3, 2023 3:16:11 GMT -5
Question: Was cp3 doing that great of a job running the offense? I’m asking because - is there a scenario where cam Payne is an upgrade, due to fresh legs? That's a good question. From my point of view, it really hurt them in this game. Soon as Paul left the game, they're offense went to crap. But I can definitely see how it could end up being a positive for them. Payne might even be the better player these days. |
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Post by duh88 on May 3, 2023 3:46:58 GMT -5
I guess my question is - is cam payne good at all?
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Post by freakns on May 3, 2023 6:49:43 GMT -5
I guess my question is - is cam payne good at all? he is OK can he be an upgrade? no. but it will change Phoenix offense. ball will be more in Booker hands, there will be less pnr... but then Payne might score more then CP3(depending on Nuggets defensive scheme), but in same time Ayton will have less chances most likely. he is also crappy defender. |
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Post by freakns on May 3, 2023 7:04:44 GMT -5
Hooker was winning 19-24 games per season before Rubio and later Paul were brought on to provide something resembling an offensive structure, while Jokic never dipped below 40 games in his career. not even close. I never said Booker was as good as Jokic through his career. he took leap forward since bubble, you have to acknowledge that. I never said he is better then Jokic, or as good as Jokic. I said they are on same level, meaning Booker can be best player in any series, including the one against Nuggets. yes, he can have span of 7 games where he outplays Jokic. or look at this different. was Steph ever as good as LeBron during those GSW-Cleveland series? no. was he on same level? hell yes. again, you guys need to look at wider picture. as I said, Jokic is influencing offense more then Booker even when stats doesn't show it. in same time, they are scoring same amount of points with same efficiency while Booker is guarded by much better defenders. are we really going to say Ayton is as good of a defender as KCP is? is Byambo on same level as Brown? I do believe Jokic and Giannis are two best players in the world(I don't think Embiis is as impactful as those two). But any given series, there are players who can completely take over. Steph, KD, Embiid, f***in' glassman AD... we just saw Jimmy pretty much outplaying Giannis. Booker is on that list. legit superstar. 28/5/5, shooting almost 50%... and he is on that level for last 4 years... and so far, he is affecting this series more then KD. |
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 3, 2023 13:40:16 GMT -5
I guess my question is - is cam payne good at all? Only correct answer is: No, he’s not, but most people going for career highs against Denver are not. Watch him drop 60 |
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Post by blackhill on May 3, 2023 16:58:41 GMT -5
In the postseason, so far, Paul has 54 assists and 7 turnovers. He is still damn good - Suns should have found a way to avoid playing him 40 min. a game in the playoffs, guy is still clutch. Payne cannot give Suns what Paul does. I think Suns just go heavy iso with Booker and Durant and throwing whatever shooters they have out there. Going to be a flamethrower on Friday
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Post by famicommander on May 3, 2023 17:05:12 GMT -5
Even worse than the difference between Paul and Payne is that there is nobody behind Payne at all. Payne just came off injury and he's probably gonna have to play 40+ minutes, or they're gonna have to have Booker run the point.
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Post by JB on May 3, 2023 17:48:11 GMT -5
we should petition the league and allow the Suns to sign Facu and Barton. it's only fair.
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Post by bignuggets on May 3, 2023 18:35:06 GMT -5
Question: Was cp3 doing that great of a job running the offense? I’m asking because - is there a scenario where cam Payne is an upgrade, due to fresh legs? Payne can go for 20-30pts on a really good night. But I read somewhere that the Suns’ +/- was best with Paul on the floor, so he was doing a really good job. In no way is this a blessing in disguise. Also read they will go heavy iso with KD and Booker and surround them with their best shooters to pass to when we collapse. They think they can outscore Denver, but I feel MPJ will get it going and we got game 3. |
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Post by passtheballquick on May 3, 2023 19:29:49 GMT -5
Question: Was cp3 doing that great of a job running the offense? I’m asking because - is there a scenario where cam Payne is an upgrade, due to fresh legs? Payne can go for 20-30pts on a really good night. But I read somewhere that the Suns’ +/- was best with Paul on the floor, so he was doing a really good job. In no way is this a blessing in disguise. Also read they will go heavy iso with KD and Booker and surround them with their best shooters to pass to when we collapse. They think they can outscore Denver, but I feel MPJ will get it going and we got game 3. They have no shooters outside of Booker and Durant. Lee and Shamet can hit wide open 3's but they can't create for themselves and they'll be guarded well. If TC can shoot 70% from 3 they may have a chance |
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Post by duh88 on May 4, 2023 0:45:33 GMT -5
Even worse than the difference between Paul and Payne is that there is nobody behind Payne at all. Payne just came off injury and he's probably gonna have to play 40+ minutes, or they're gonna have to have Booker run the point. 10 mins of Landry Shamet alone should win the game for us. Jesus, Jamal just abused him in game 1. |
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