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Post by duh88 on May 30, 2023 20:41:59 GMT -5
It’s cool because Jeff has been absolutely pivotal in this playoff run. That is a very well earned ring.
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Post by famicommander on May 30, 2023 21:08:25 GMT -5
Don't forget that Uncle Jeff had essentially a training camp for all the young guys at his home before the season. That's huge. I'd much rather have all the young guys under the supervision of Jeff and his wife while they're getting their first NBA checks and learning how to be a pro than out screwing around and screwing up.
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Post by sawyeral on May 30, 2023 21:43:30 GMT -5
Damn. I was feeling good about our chances until I heard Bayless today. He reminded me of two things I hadn’t considered:
1) Miami will win because they’re more physical than Denver. (Lol) 2) Miami will slow down Jokic with …. zone. Yes, you read that right. (Lmfao)
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Post by rock on May 30, 2023 22:28:34 GMT -5
Damn. I was feeling good about our chances until I heard Bayless today. He reminded me of two things I hadn’t considered: 1) Miami will win because they’re more physical than Denver. (Lol) 2) Miami will slow down Jokic with …. zone. Yes, you read that right. (Lmfao) Did Shannon pick the nuggets?
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Post by famicommander on May 30, 2023 22:42:35 GMT -5
Look what we have here:
Collin Gillespie in a full contact practice. Wearing #2 in red so it seems he's giving scout team looks for Gabe Vincent. I wonder how long he's been cleared for full contact. We haven't heard much since he started shooting in February. So I think it's safe to say we'll see him in Summer League. Great news.
And we can see Thomas Bryant being Bam with #13, Vlatko being Struss with #31, Peyton Watson being Caleb Martin with #16.
End of the bench putting in work for us. Let's reward them with rings.
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Post by sawyeral on May 30, 2023 23:27:01 GMT -5
Damn. I was feeling good about our chances until I heard Bayless today. He reminded me of two things I hadn’t considered: 1) Miami will win because they’re more physical than Denver. (Lol) 2) Miami will slow down Jokic with …. zone. Yes, you read that right. (Lmfao) Did Shannon pick the nuggets? He did indeed
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Post by rock on May 30, 2023 23:57:17 GMT -5
Did Shannon pick the nuggets? He did indeed That explains it I’ve been watching more of these guys during the playoffs and EVERY SINGLE TIME skip would disagree with Shannon. No matter what. It became blatant when early in the playoffs shannon would always support jokic and the nuggets and of course skip would hate on us Then we played the lakers, and for the first time shannon supported the opponents. I was curious to see how skip would react and wouldn’t you know, he suddenly became a jokic fan.
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Post by famicommander on May 31, 2023 0:04:36 GMT -5
Why you gotta posterize them rooks, Mike? ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxav8ALaIAACKXn?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by JB on May 31, 2023 0:10:43 GMT -5
that's cable news in a nutshell rock.
can't have a nuanced, reasoned discussion on the issues. that's not "entertaining". you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator which actually makes you less informed than people who don't consume news at all (there have been studies that confirmed this).
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 31, 2023 2:53:22 GMT -5
if the reports are true and Uncle Jeff (along with DAJ) recruited Cowboy to sign with the Nugs, then he earned that ring in more ways than one. would be very happy to see Jeff win one. genuinely decent human being that had one of the hardest career paths in NBA history. Victory lap
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 31, 2023 3:50:15 GMT -5
DAJ aka worst signing ever eas easily worth it getting BB
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Post by Coach Sticky on May 31, 2023 6:07:05 GMT -5
I DID THIS
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Post by TNF on May 31, 2023 10:20:37 GMT -5
Duh, I identify with your Everest comment. A Nuggets championship would mean more to me than all the Avs and Broncos championships combined, and all of them mattered...a lot.
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Post by game on May 31, 2023 13:08:12 GMT -5
That explains it I’ve been watching more of these guys during the playoffs and EVERY SINGLE TIME skip would disagree with Shannon. No matter what. It became blatant when early in the playoffs shannon would always support jokic and the nuggets and of course skip would hate on us Then we played the lakers, and for the first time shannon supported the opponents. I was curious to see how skip would react and wouldn’t you know, he suddenly became a jokic fan. It's all performative. They don't care if you hate watch or hate click. They don't care about being right. They care about people watching or clicking. I can assure you, the second the Finals end, the Nuggets will be completely discredited. If they win, it'll be heavy "worst champions ever? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) " or "easiest path ever? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) " or a strong pivot to how the Warriors/Lakers/Celtics/Sixers/Name Your Glamor Market or Team are the favorites next year. Nick Wright said "whoever wins the West is winning the title" when the Lakers were in it, as his main schtick has been LeBron > Jordan, and that was necessary to boost his primary take. The second the Nuggets and Heat won, now he's picking Miami. Do not expect him to be a Jokic guy if the Nuggets win anymore than Jokic winning an MVP changed anything. Just like he was the worst MVP ever, they'll be the worst champions ever. Who cares. If the general public/casual fans don't care about the Nuggets or these Finals, those shows will reflect that and be as dismissive of the Nuggets and Jokic as the guy or gal who thinks Kyrie is a top 75 player of all time. I cannot stress enough how this media is just television junk food. You will learn nothing. You will be coddled and manipulated to feel emotions they want you to feel. Fox News figured out this model in political media and now this is basically all that is on TV in political media, and it's no different in sports.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on May 31, 2023 13:16:38 GMT -5
what's silly about all of that is that the NBA guys will also complain that Denver/Jokic "isn't marketable". Yes they are, but you have to actually market them. Somebody has to say "yes, I think the Nuggets are and should be the favorite." Somebody has to talk about the team the way LeBron and KD have talked about the team, like "they're really good, here's what they do well, here's what's so hard about playing them." But ESPN etc would rather have Skip and Nick Wrong being dismissive and clickbaity than listen to Paul George talk about Jokic's greatness.
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Post by JB on May 31, 2023 13:24:45 GMT -5
I just remember when Embiid beat Joker in Philly and the entire NBA world was buzzing (Embiid of course bitched out of the rematch but that's beside the point).
these two f***ing guys have been battling it out for MVP for THREE CONSECUTIVE SEASONS. WHY is this not being marketed as the premier rivalry in the NBA? why are Joker and Embiid not battling it out on Christmas? why did ESPN have to resort to gutter journalism to generate ad revenue when the rivalry sells itself?
from the league office to the legacy media covering it, the NBA is the worst.
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Post by game on May 31, 2023 13:26:03 GMT -5
Yep. The model is essentially to use topics that the highest number of people have a strong opinion on and ignore topics entirely that are lesser known or do not incite strong opinions. Jokic has only been worth engaging in the realm of the MVP debate that was made 10x more toxic than it needed to be because it got more interest that way.
In political media, it's easy. There are a finite number of really well known political figures, and there is a nicely broken out 50/50ish set of very strong opinions. Dirty little secret is that Fox News doesn't give a s**t if their Trump segment gets circulated a ton and mocked in liberal circles. The thing they fear is not getting circulated. They want that audience to hate watch.
In sports, Michael Jordan hasn't played in 25 years and the Cowboys haven't won in forever, but people feel strongly about them. So they're discussed daily in 2023 along with LeBron, the Lakers, Tom Brady, etc.
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Post by famicommander on May 31, 2023 13:27:00 GMT -5
I just remember when Embiid beat Joker in Philly and the entire NBA world was buzzing (Embiid of course bitched out of the rematch but that's beside the point). Just as a point of clarity, Jokic whooped Embiid's ass in the first half. Then Doc made an adjustment and for the rest of the game it was PJ Tucker and Tobias Harris vs Jokic while Embiid was matched up with Uncle Jeff and Aaron Gordon. That's when Embiid exploded and Malone didn't make any counter-adjustment.
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Post by game on May 31, 2023 13:30:41 GMT -5
I do think the NBA should be way more demanding of their media partners, but they're comfortable taking the biggest check they can possibly get, style of coverage be damned.
Low-key the biggest issue the NBA has faced is the extreme lack of hope that most teams have of winning a title year-to-year compared to the NFL or MLB even. When the same few guys win all the titles, that becomes all you talk about. I think moving toward more parity would really help. What has happened in these playoffs, in the east, should be celebrated in NBA circles. Not groaned about. Short term investment in long term equity among more fanbases. But again, they're way too focused on the next TV check.
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Post by JB on May 31, 2023 13:31:26 GMT -5
I just remember when Embiid beat Joker in Philly and the entire NBA world was buzzing (Embiid of course bitched out of the rematch but that's beside the point). Just as a point of clarity, Jokic whooped Embiid's ass in the first half. Then Doc made an adjustment and for the rest of the game it was PJ Tucker and Tobias Harris vs Jokic while Embiid was matched up with Uncle Jeff and Aaron Gordon. That's when Embiid exploded and Malone didn't make any counter-adjustment. thats fair context, but my larger point is the league has the option of promoting Jokic vs Embiid as the new Kobe vs Lebron or Magic vs Bird and they choose not to.
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