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Post by TNF on Dec 31, 2022 11:49:19 GMT -5
The Nuggets in their previous prime of the middle 80's barely shot any threes. However, they were BY FAR the best mid-range teams in franchise history. Alex English was the Master of the mid-range, and in later years, that honor fell to Dre.
Even in the ABA, which invented the 3-point shot, there were very few players who fired them up. Louie Dampier of the Kentucky Colonels was the all-time greatest in that era, and although I haven't looked it up, I doubt he was anywhere close to the shooting percentages of good players now.
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Post by famicommander on Dec 31, 2022 14:43:38 GMT -5
Jokic has passed Dan Issel to take sole possession of 11th in blocks. 30 more to break into the top 10 and pass Blair Rasmussen.
Four more threes to knock Gary Harris out of the top 5, three to tie him.
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Post by duh88 on Jan 2, 2023 3:11:52 GMT -5
Understood on 3’s becoming a major utility later on in the nba - I still think it’s very cool what Murray is accomplishing.
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Post by famicommander on Jan 2, 2023 10:44:36 GMT -5
1 3 pointer to tie, 2 to pass Gary Harris for 5th
29 blocks to tie, 30 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th
83 assists to tie, 84 to pass Alex English for 1st
20 steals to tie, 21 to pass Nene for 5th
These are the next likely milestones. Hopefully he can get the 3s tonight.
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Post by famicommander on Jan 7, 2023 12:47:02 GMT -5
Jokic has passed Gary Harris for 5th in 3 pointers.
Getting really close to passing English for 1st in assists.
Updated standings
Points:
1. Alex English (21,645)
2. Dan Issel (16,589)
3. Carmelo Anthony (13,970)
4. David Thompson (11,992)
5. Nikola Jokic (11,275)
Rebounds:
1. Dan Issel (6,630)
2. Nikola Jokic (5,844)
3. Byron Beck (5,261)
4. Dikembe Mutombo (4,811)
5. Alex English (4,686)
Assists:
1. Alex English (3,679)
2. Nikola Jokic (3,624)
3. Fat Lever (3,566)
4. Andre Miller (2,978)
5. Ty Lawson (2,745)
Steals:
1. Fat Lever (1,167)
2. T. R. Dunn (1,070)
3. Alex English (854)
4. Dan Issel (798)
5. Nene Hilario (694)
6. Nikola Jokic (679)
Blocks:
1. Dikembe Mutombo (1,486)
2. Marcus Camby (1,126)
3. Wayne Cooper (830)
4. Chris Andersen (624)
4. Alex English (624)
6. Antonio McDyess (604)
7. Raef LaFrentz (556)
8. Nene (508)
9. Danny Schayes (470)
10. Blair Rasmussen (426)
11. Nikola Jokic (397)
Minutes played:
1. Alex English (29,893)
2. Dan Issel (25,198)
3. Carmelo Anthony (20,521)
4. Byron Beck (19,197)
5. T. R. Dunn (18,322)
6. Nikola Jokic (17,221)
Three pointers made:
1. Will Barton (804)
2. J. R. Smith (768)
3. Jamal Murray (737)
4. Michael Adams (630)
5. Nikola Jokic (568)
Next milestones:
717 points to tie, 718 to pass David Thompson for 4th (roughly 30 more games at his current pace)
786 rebounds to tie, 787 to pass Dan Issel for 1st (roughly 73 more games at his current pace)
55 assists to tie, 56 to pass Alex English for 1st (roughly 6 more games at his current pace)
15 steals to tie, 16 to pass Nene for 5th (roughly 12 more games at his current pace)
29 blocks to tie, 30 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th (roughly 50 more games at his current pace)
1101 minutes to tie, 1102 to pass TR Dunn for 5th (roughly 33 more games at his current pace)
62 3 pointers to tie, 63 to pass Michael Adams for 4th (roughly 70 more games at his current pace)
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Post by duh88 on Jan 7, 2023 22:53:32 GMT -5
Hasn't even reached age 30, and will be the assists leader of a franchise thats more than 50 years old.
Just incredible.
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Post by freakns on Jan 8, 2023 15:49:23 GMT -5
I've watched thinking basketball podcast about Jokic. They had some discussion about is Jokic defensive liability in playoffs and is it possible to solve it. Second part was about is Jokic best offensive player ever. Not today, not center... Best. Offensive. Player. Ever. Now, I don't believe he is, but even to be mention in that context is insane.
Then they said one stat line that wasn't mentioned above. And that define who Jokic is and what Nuggets basketball is.
Podcast was from December 31st, so data is from that day.
Up to that moment, Nuggets with Nikola Jokic in the lineup had 33 assists per 100 possession. Not Jokic only, whole team.
Only 3 times before team has had 30+ assists per 100 possessions with one man in lineup. GSW with Curry in 2017, and Nuggets with Jokic in last two seasons. Thats insane. But not as insane as next stat.
So far, in history of NBA, biggest difference in number of assists for one team with and without one player in lineup is Cavs and LeBron(forgot year). Cavs, per 100 possessions, had 7 assists more with LeBron in lineup then without him. Second place is Nuggets with/without Jokic last season, 6.8 and third is Nuggets with/without Jokic two years ago, 6.5
This season, difference in number of assists Nuggets have with/without Jokic is... 11. Eleven. So without Jokic Nuggets have 22 assists per 100 possessions, with him 33. That is just not normal. The way this guy controls the game is just crazy. Like, we knew he was basketball savant, but he is true unicorn. Not sure when someone like him will appear(we see Sabonis plays same way, but they do not affect the game in same way)
ps. even though I don't think Jokic is best offensive player ever, I do believe Nuggets can win title with his defense. I actually think they gonna do it this year.
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Post by jimijam28 on Jan 8, 2023 15:58:17 GMT -5
Yawn
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Post by freakns on Jan 8, 2023 16:52:56 GMT -5
pls stop
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Post by famicommander on Jan 9, 2023 23:22:18 GMT -5
Took a big chunk out of his remaining assists to catch English tonight.
Next milestones:
703 points to tie, 704 to pass David Thompson for 4th
775 rebounds to tie, 776 to pass Dan Issel for 1st
39 assists to tie, 40 to pass Alex English for 1st
14 steals to tie, 15 to pass Nene for 5th
28 blocks to tie, 29 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th
1066 minutes to tie, 1067 to pass TR Dunn for 5th
61 3 pointers to tie, 62 to pass Michael Adams for 4th
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jan 10, 2023 2:51:04 GMT -5
In four games, at home vs Portland
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Post by famicommander on Jan 12, 2023 1:01:59 GMT -5
Next milestones:
682 points to tie, 683 to pass David Thompson for 4th
757 rebounds to tie, 758 to pass Dan Issel for 1st
30 assists to tie, 31 to pass Alex English for 1st
13 steals to tie, 14 to pass Nene for 5th
28 blocks to tie, 29 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th
1038 minutes to tie, 1039 to pass TR Dunn for 5th
61 3 pointers to tie, 62 to pass Michael Adams for 4th
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Post by famicommander on Jan 15, 2023 22:58:41 GMT -5
665 points to tie, 666 to pass David Thompson for 4th
747 rebounds to tie, 748 to pass Dan Issel for 1st
16 assists to tie, 17 to pass Alex English for 1st
11 steals to tie, 13 to pass Nene for 5th
27 blocks to tie, 28 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th
1003 minutes to tie, 1004 to pass TR Dunn for 5th
60 3 pointers to tie, 61 to pass Michael Adams for 4th
So close on those assists.
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Post by duh88 on Jan 16, 2023 0:32:09 GMT -5
Heck - dude might have 17 assists next game
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Post by famicommander on Jan 17, 2023 23:40:25 GMT -5
627 points to tie, 628 to pass David Thompson for 4th
735 rebounds to tie, 736 to pass Dan Issel for 1st
6 assists to tie, 7 to pass Alex English for 1st
10 steals to tie, 11 to pass Nene for 5th
26 blocks to tie, 27 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th
969 minutes to tie, 1970 to pass TR Dunn for 5th
59 3 pointers to tie, 60 to pass Michael Adams for 4th
Should see the assists record fall tomorrow night.
Jokic got his 400th career block tonight.
Another week or two to pass Nene on the steals list.
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Post by duh88 on Jan 18, 2023 8:27:35 GMT -5
Still shocks me that Blair Rasmussen is in the top 10 of any nba franchise list.
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Post by freakns on Jan 18, 2023 11:50:26 GMT -5
This should go here. Fatty in last 5:
4 triple doubles and 1 Sombor double(9 assists)
40/53 for 2 (in 3 games didn't miss a shot) - 75.47%
6/11 for 3 - 54.54%
18/21 for 1 - 85.71%
116 pts - 23.2 pts per game
66 rbs - 13.2 rbs per game
59 ast - 11.8 ast per game
7 stl - 1.4 stl per game
3 blk - 0.6 blk per game
15 tov - 3.8 tov per game
80 +/- (double digit +/- in every game) - 16 +/- per game
These are insane numbers, even for him. One might argue 3.8 turnovers per game is a bit too much, but for almost 12 assists and with those shooting percentages? Its not. Not to mention crazy consistency. He didn't rack up numbers in 3 games and was average in other 2, he had similar stats in every single game. Just fing crazy.
I honestly think he is playing his best season. This is peak Jokic. Only thing left, you know it, should come in June.
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Post by famicommander on Jan 18, 2023 20:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Jan 18, 2023 23:07:08 GMT -5
Joker is now the franchise assist leader.
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jan 19, 2023 0:58:49 GMT -5
I DID THIS
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