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Post by famicommander on Dec 21, 2022 15:56:32 GMT -5
Jokic has passed David Thompson for 6th on the all time minutes list.
Updated standings: Points: 1. Alex English (21,645) 2. Dan Issel (16,589) 3. Carmelo Anthony (13,970) 4. David Thompson (11,992) 5. Nikola Jokic (11,032)
Rebounds: 1. Dan Issel (6,630) 2. Nikola Jokic (5,753) 3. Byron Beck (5,261) 4. Dikembe Mutombo (4,811) 5. Alex English (4,686)
Assists: 1. Alex English (3,679) 2. Fat Lever (3,566) 3. Nikola Jokic (3,529) 4. Andre Miller (2,978) 5. Ty Lawson (2,745)
Steals: 1. Fat Lever (1,167) 2. T. R. Dunn (1,070) 3. Alex English (854) 4. Dan Issel (798) 5. Nene Hilario (694) 6. Nikola Jokic (668)
Blocks: 1. Dikembe Mutombo (1,486) 2. Marcus Camby (1,126) 3. Wayne Cooper (830) 4. Chris Andersen (624) 4. Alex English (624) 6. Antonio McDyess (604) 7. Raef LaFrentz (556) 8. Nene (508) 9. Danny Schayes (470) 10. Blair Rasmussen (426) 11. Dan Issel (396) 12. Nikola Jokic (394)
Minutes played: 1. Alex English (29,893) 2. Dan Issel (25,198) 3. Carmelo Anthony (20,521) 4. Byron Beck (19,197) 5. T. R. Dunn (18,322) 6. Nikola Jokic (16,910)
Three pointers made: 1. Will Barton (804) 2. J. R. Smith (768) 3. Jamal Murray (718) 4. Michael Adams (630) 5. Gary Harris (565) 6. Nikola Jokic (558)
Next milestones: 961 points to pass David Thompson for 4th (roughly 40 more games at this year's pace) 878 rebounds to pass Dan Issel for 1st (should get there early-to-middle of next season) 38 assists to pass Fat Lever for 2nd (should get there in 4 or 5 more games); 151 to pass Alex English for 1st (16-18 more games) 27 steals to pass Nene for 5th (exactly 18 more games at his current pace) 3 blocks to pass Dan Issell for 11th (4-5 more games) 1413 minutes to pass TR Dunn for 5th (43 more games) 8 3 pointers to pass Gary Harris for 5th (10 more games)
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Post by Coach Sticky on Dec 21, 2022 16:28:01 GMT -5
Assists and rebounds leader by the end of the season
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Post by famicommander on Dec 21, 2022 16:58:08 GMT -5
Assists and rebounds leader by the end of the season No, he won't pass Issel this year on the rebounds list. At his current pace he's about ~80 games away. Assists, definitely.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Dec 21, 2022 17:29:09 GMT -5
he'd have to average 17 rpg from here on out to beat Issel in rebounds by the end of this season. Which would put him firmly in the drivers seat for another MVP award. But it's not happening. At a more expected 10-13 rpg, he'll reach it about 70-90 regular season games from now, or sometime between game 18 and 38 next season.
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Post by jimijam28 on Dec 21, 2022 18:32:52 GMT -5
Assists and rebounds leader by the end of the season By January 😂
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Post by Coach Sticky on Dec 22, 2022 0:05:31 GMT -5
Do playoffs count?
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Post by jimijam28 on Dec 22, 2022 0:30:53 GMT -5
No casual
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Post by Coach Sticky on Dec 22, 2022 3:04:55 GMT -5
can you please stop
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Post by freakns on Dec 27, 2022 14:58:59 GMT -5
I just watched Brian Windhorst podcast with McMahon and Bontemps(I like Bontemps, thats why I watched!), and they all agreed Jokic will break Nuggets points record... Also, more shockingly, Windhorst had nice words to say about Jokic, and he did it without throwing up.
They all also agreed there is a big chance Jokic will never play for another NBA team.
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Post by famicommander on Dec 27, 2022 20:27:45 GMT -5
Potential milestones tonight: 1 block to tie, 2 to pass Dan Issel for 11th 11 assists to tie, 12 to pass Fat Lever for 2nd 5 3 pointers to tie, 6 to pass Gary Harris for 5th
Probably won't hit that many 3s but I could see 2 blocks and 12 assists.
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Post by famicommander on Dec 29, 2022 21:38:08 GMT -5
Jokic has passed Fat Lever for 2nd in assists and tied Dan Issel for 11th in blocks.
Points: 1. Alex English (21,645) 2. Dan Issel (16,589) 3. Carmelo Anthony (13,970) 4. David Thompson (11,992) 5. Nikola Jokic (11,162)
Rebounds: 1. Dan Issel (6,630) 2. Nikola Jokic (5,792) 3. Byron Beck (5,261) 4. Dikembe Mutombo (4,811) 5. Alex English (4,686)
Assists: 1. Alex English (3,679) 2. Nikola Jokic (3,572) 3. Fat Lever (3,566) 4. Andre Miller (2,978) 5. Ty Lawson (2,745)
Steals: 1. Fat Lever (1,167) 2. T. R. Dunn (1,070) 3. Alex English (854) 4. Dan Issel (798) 5. Nene Hilario (694) 6. Nikola Jokic (672)
Blocks: 1. Dikembe Mutombo (1,486) 2. Marcus Camby (1,126) 3. Wayne Cooper (830) 4. Chris Andersen (624) 4. Alex English (624) 6. Antonio McDyess (604) 7. Raef LaFrentz (556) 8. Nene (508) 9. Danny Schayes (470) 10. Blair Rasmussen (426) 11. Dan Issel (396) 11. Nikola Jokic (396)
Minutes played: 1. Alex English (29,893) 2. Dan Issel (25,198) 3. Carmelo Anthony (20,521) 4. Byron Beck (19,197) 5. T. R. Dunn (18,322) 6. Nikola Jokic (17,060)
Three pointers made: 1. Will Barton (804) 2. J. R. Smith (768) 3. Jamal Murray (729) 4. Michael Adams (630) 5. Gary Harris (565) 6. Nikola Jokic (560)
Next milestones: 830 points to tie, 831 to pass David Thompson for 4th 838 rebounds to tie, 839 to pass Dan Issel for 1st 107 assists to tie, 108 to pass Alex English for 1st 22 steals to tie, 23 to pass Nene for 5th 1 block to break the tie for 11th with Dan Issel, 30 to tie and 31 to pass Blair Rasmussen for 10th 1262 minutes to tie, 1263 to pass TR Dunn for 5th 5 3 pointers to tie, 6 to pass Gary Harris for 5th
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Post by Coach Sticky on Dec 30, 2022 4:24:13 GMT -5
He’s gonna crack top-5 in steals, minutes and 3’s this season.
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Post by Coach Sticky on Dec 30, 2022 4:25:01 GMT -5
Also Assists leader in about 10 Games.
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Post by duh88 on Dec 30, 2022 4:38:56 GMT -5
Something unnoticed:
Jamal Murray is going to be franchise leader in 3-pointers made by end of this year. He’s going to be 26.
Pretty incredible.
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Post by Coach Sticky on Dec 30, 2022 5:31:38 GMT -5
Something unnoticed: Jamal Murray is going to be franchise leader in 3-pointers made by end of this year. He’s going to be 26. Pretty incredible. Thats nice and all but this the Jokic thread. Make your own thread about Murray
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Post by planaria on Dec 30, 2022 11:51:13 GMT -5
Something unnoticed: Jamal Murray is going to be franchise leader in 3-pointers made by end of this year. He’s going to be 26. Pretty incredible. This record at this age after Murray been out for so long and Barton been 1st says a lot about this franchise lack of history at the 3 point line. Btw, some of the best three point shooters of Nuggets history are in the current roster (Murray, MPJ, Bones, KCP and even Brown).
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Dec 30, 2022 14:07:24 GMT -5
NBA teams really didn't start to embrace the 3 until the mid-90s, and then moreso in the mid-2000s. The Nuggets had a lot of roster churn in the late 90s, and then the "thuggets" era with non-shooters like Dre, KMart, Nene, Camby, early-career Melo, and a revolving door of shooting guards. JR was the only volume 3 point shooter we had for more than like 2 years during that time period. Then we went through the Gallo-era rebuild, and then Shawful. This is really the first time we've had several players who are good shooters, who have a green light to shoot, who came here early in their career, and aren't likely to be moved after only a few years.
Barton is the 3fg leader with around 800 makes. With just over 80 games per season, that's 5 seasons at 2 makes per game, or 3 and a half seasons at 2.9 makes per game. Mike is making 2.9 per game, and Bones, Jamal, and KCP are making 2+ (and they're all good shooters who should keep shooting that many.) And Joker is only making 1 per game, but he's already got 500, so he needs about 4 seasons to also pass the current leader. So if we keep most of those guys for a nice long contending window, Barton will probably be fifth by like 2027.
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Post by freakns on Dec 30, 2022 17:28:10 GMT -5
Something unnoticed: Jamal Murray is going to be franchise leader in 3-pointers made by end of this year. He’s going to be 26. Pretty incredible. This record at this age after Murray been out for so long and Barton been 1st says a lot about this franchise lack of history at the 3 point line. Btw, some of the best three point shooters of Nuggets history are in the current roster (Murray, MPJ, Bones, KCP and even Brown). as Lothar said 3 pointers hasn't kicked until mid 2000s. players like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller were rarity. for example, Clippers all time leader is Eric Piatkowski. half of the people here never heard of Piatkowski. Kobe is leading the Lakers, but he was never 3pt shooter, its his longevity that gave him leading spot. second is Fisher with similar numbers as Barton. same goes for Philly, Iverson leads with less 900. Bulls leader is Hinrich, who was drafted as 3pt specialist, and he has around 1000 3s for 7 seasons. Knicks leader is Starks. Im not joking... guy who was bellow 35% career shooter is leading Knicks... more then half of teams don't have player with 1200+ 3s. and only 13 players have scored more then 2000 3s in their career. two of them are playing for GSW(Klay and Curry) and out of other 11 only Reggie, Dame and Harden have scored 2K+ for one team. ps. one of those 13 is LeBron who has career avg closer to Simmons then Curry. but playing for 78 years in 3pt heavy league helps more then actual ability to hit 3
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Post by JB on Dec 30, 2022 17:50:54 GMT -5
Luka, a career .339 3PT shooter, is already top 4 all time for the Mavs and will replace Michael Finley (who was actually known for shooting) shortly for top 3. and he'll very likely surpass Dirk in less time (unless he leaves Dallas first) which is insane to think about.
with that being said, it's a shame Gallo - who played 5 1/2 seasons with the Nuggets (obviously excluding the ACL year) couldn't even surpass Wilson freaking Chandler on the all-time list. Gallo has been a pretty consistent 4-5 attempts per game guy, the one season (OKC) he increased his attempts to 7 per game he significantly improved on his career %. he's the one guy in Nuggets history I wish had Barton or JR's selfish gene.
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Post by planaria on Dec 30, 2022 19:53:45 GMT -5
All that you said plus the fact that Melo just became a real three point shooter after the trade.
He could easily be the leader if he had his Knicks numbers.
Most of 3 point drama from 2000 era came from the decision to bring another big men (K-Mart) in the last offseason we were real players during the free agency.
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