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Post by Miura on Mar 29, 2023 21:50:00 GMT -5
Yeah honestly I didn't care about the 3rd MVP because it just felt impossible. We've seen so many times voter fatigue set in and we still likely could. If Jokic never wins a ring it'll for sure be a thing but regardless getting to watch a 3x MVP night in and night out is a pretty special thing for a fan and one we'll never likely see again as Nugget fans. Obviously a ring is far more important but at this point I care about Jokic getting it. Just not Embiid. I won't complain if Giannis gets it. IMO he's the only player in the league that has an argument above Jokic(simply due to defense/today's era of defensive versatility). He's missed alot of games and IMO Jokic is the obvious MVP but he's the one guy that I could atleast understand. If they give it to Embiid it'll be annoying as f**k. 100% agree, anyone but Embiid. |
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Post by JB on Mar 29, 2023 21:54:31 GMT -5
I know this sounds crazy, but why not Joker jr aka Sabonis?
19/13/7/1.3 STOCKS. 667% TS. his trade was the impetus that transformed the Kings from a never-ending mess to the third seed in a loaded conference.
why does it have to be a transcendent generational superstar that wins the award?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 21:55:45 GMT -5
Guys, Jokic will win his 3rd straight MVP
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 29, 2023 21:59:00 GMT -5
Guys, Jokic will win his 3rd straight MVP I think we'll know that at the end of this week when we see the last straw poll and kia mvp results |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 30, 2023 0:48:56 GMT -5
I know this sounds crazy, but why not Joker jr aka Sabonis? 19/13/7/1.3 STOCKS. 667% TS. his trade was the impetus that transformed the Kings from a never-ending mess to the third seed in a loaded conference. why does it have to be a transcendent generational superstar that wins the award? His arms too short to win MVP |
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 30, 2023 8:45:34 GMT -5
So the last straw poll has Embiid on the top with 790 points. Jokic second with 788 and Gianiss 3rd with 612. I think the votes were sent before the coward ducked the game. Matt Moore reported # of first place votes 2 days ago so the votes must have been handed out before the Nuggets-Philly game. If Embiid wins this fuc* nba. The good thing is that more than half of these votes didn't come from official voters but from "other" media members
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 30, 2023 9:12:08 GMT -5
I personally dont think Embiid «ducking» should matter. Especially considering how close we are to the playoffs and the teams not fighting for seeding. Jokic was better before Embiid didnt play and is better after, same applies if you think Embiid is better.
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Post by famicommander on Mar 30, 2023 9:27:06 GMT -5
Embiid has no case and he wouldn't have one even if he had played and utterly dominated the game in Denver. He's simply a drastically inferior player.
If Jokic loses it's all because of the media narrative and not because of what happens on the basketball court.
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Post by JB on Mar 30, 2023 9:51:09 GMT -5
head to head matters significantly when 1. the race is as close as it is 2. the two front runners play the same position
denying that is just denying reality. and even though I have a low opinion of voters, I have to believe Embiid pulling a George Constanza
is not going to sit right with the majority of them.
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 30, 2023 10:23:40 GMT -5
I personally dont think Embiid «ducking» should matter. Especially considering how close we are to the playoffs and the teams not fighting for seeding. Jokic was better before Embiid didnt play and is better after, same applies if you think Embiid is better. I think that ducking the game mattered a lot but only for Embiid. When you look at the stat numbers, seed position in each conference, number od wins of each team with or without mvp candidates, availability of each candidate Embiid stands no chance at all. He's only chance was to come to Denver and beat Jokic and erase all things that matter and takes over the media votes. Even espn media members were talking about the Denver game that could be the deciding factor. Now he has nothing left. Tomorrow when kia mvp ladder comes out he'll be second again and it'll take wonders to change it |
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Post by trumpgm on Mar 30, 2023 11:38:48 GMT -5
Straw poll is RIGGED! ESPN is so dishonest no wonder they are failing, bigly. My man Joker is winning by a landslide but CROOKED media is fixing the results. The people know the real results and do not listen to the FAKE NEWS especially that total loser, Kendrick Perkins.
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Post by JB on Mar 30, 2023 11:41:45 GMT -5
worry about the indictment and DeSanctimonious, Donald.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 30, 2023 15:11:23 GMT -5
head to head matters significantly when 1. the race is as close as it is 2. the two front runners play the same position denying that is just denying reality. and even though I have a low opinion of voters, I have to believe Embiid pulling a George Constanza is not going to sit right with the majority of them. Didnt Embiid outplay Jokic H2H this season? H2H matters ofc but not significally, well maybe to media and fans who love arguing and bragging rights. And if its super close, yeah then i guess it could be used as a tiebreaker, but its very possible to be the most VALUABLE player while also having a terrible matchup. And this what have you done for me lately is so stupid when it comes to a season long award. You can also never prove Embiid motivation to sit out was to duck. Shouldnt have to risk your health to win MVP, and sitting games before the playoffs is the right idea. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 30, 2023 15:13:45 GMT -5
Jokic/Nuggets fans talking about how important H2H is makes no sense unless you legit dont want Jokic to win b2b2b MVPs
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 30, 2023 15:34:16 GMT -5
Jokic/Nuggets fans talking about how important H2H is makes no sense unless you legit dont want Jokic to win b2b2b MVPs Why? Jokic hammered Bucks and beat Giannis in the only meeting and the coward ducked the game to avoid humiliation that Bucks faced. |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 30, 2023 15:38:44 GMT -5
As a point of fact, when they actually played against each other in that first game Jokic had 16 points on 6 FGA and Embiid had 19 points on 16 FGA. It was when Doc made the switch to get Jokic vs Tucker and Embiid vs Green/Zeke/AG in the second half that Embiid exploded. We didn't adjust, they did.
But regardless, anybody who misses almost 20% of the season does not deserve to be MVP. Period. There's no other point that even has to be made. Embiid doesn't show up to work.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 30, 2023 15:42:50 GMT -5
Jokic/Nuggets fans talking about how important H2H is makes no sense unless you legit dont want Jokic to win b2b2b MVPs Why? Jokic hammered Bucks and beat Giannis in the only meeting and the coward ducked the game to avoid humiliation that Bucks faced. Since we dont know for sure its more likely he just had a very minor injury or preferred to sit out because of other reasons rather than because he was scared |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 30, 2023 15:44:33 GMT -5
Missing the Denver game 5 times in 6 years is intentional. Embiid wants the head to head stats to be in his favor so he only plays home games against Jokic. The guy is obsessed.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 30, 2023 15:44:39 GMT -5
But regardless, anybody who misses almost 20% of the season does not deserve to be MVP. Period. There's no other point that even has to be made. Embiid doesn't show up to work. I agree with this way more than the Embiid ducked narrative. Even tho for me the thing that separate them is their actual abilities when playing basketball. |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 30, 2023 15:46:30 GMT -5
But regardless, anybody who misses almost 20% of the season does not deserve to be MVP. Period. There's no other point that even has to be made. Embiid doesn't show up to work. I agree with this way more than the Embiid ducked narrative. Even tho for me the thing that separate them is their actual abilities when playing basketball. I agree that Jokic is simply the better player. If both of them had played 100% of the games at their current averages, I still think Jokic has a far better case. It's really not close, and the only reason the media is pretending it is close is because they enjoy the narrative. But missing that many games should disqualify you regardless of the on-court. |
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