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Post by GBG on Mar 25, 2023 15:12:20 GMT -5
Jokic, as great as he is, still is underrated by national media, especially those in the east. If he loses to Embiid, I highly doubt that “reverse racism” (anti-white) would have anything to do with it. Jokic plays in a smallish market, has a “boring” unathletic style, and voters lazily have fatigue and are susceptible to narratives. That’s all it is.
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Post by famicommander on Mar 25, 2023 15:14:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it an anti-white bias. Luka gets much the same treatment as Embiid.
It's because Dallas and Philly are huge markets while Denver is a midsize market and Milwaukee is tiny.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 15:16:13 GMT -5
How is it "reverse racism" when the NBA is 85% (or more) black?
I disagree that Jokic is underrated by the national media. He has won 2 straight MVPs. Off topic, when I wore my Jokic jersey to trips on the East Coast -- people on the street (and in the places like grocery stores) were saying to me such as things as "MVP" and "Go Nuggets"
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Post by famicommander on Mar 25, 2023 15:20:47 GMT -5
The fact that people even think it's close this year or was close last year just goes to show that Jokic is, indeed, still quite underrated.
The advanced metrics put his last few seasons up there with the very best regular seasons that guys like LeBron and Jordan ever put up. This is the Nikola Jokic era of basketball and when we look back in 10 years it's going to seem silly if anyone but Jokic wins this year, like Rose winning it over LeBron in 2011 simply because people were sick of LeBron.
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Post by GBG on Mar 25, 2023 15:48:47 GMT -5
The fact that people even think it's close this year or was close last year just goes to show that Jokic is, indeed, still quite underrated. The advanced metrics put his last few seasons up there with the very best regular seasons that guys like LeBron and Jordan ever put up. This is the Nikola Jokic era of basketball and when we look back in 10 years it's going to seem silly if anyone but Jokic wins this year, like Rose winning it over LeBron in 2011 simply because people were sick of LeBron. In fairness to Rose, he may have won it again if he hadn’t torn his knee up a couple times. |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 25, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5
The fact that people even think it's close this year or was close last year just goes to show that Jokic is, indeed, still quite underrated. The advanced metrics put his last few seasons up there with the very best regular seasons that guys like LeBron and Jordan ever put up. This is the Nikola Jokic era of basketball and when we look back in 10 years it's going to seem silly if anyone but Jokic wins this year, like Rose winning it over LeBron in 2011 simply because people were sick of LeBron. In fairness to Rose, he may have won it again if he hadn’t torn his knee up a couple times. I'm not throwing any shade at Rose, he had a great year that year and I'm glad he's still in the league. But by any measure LeBron had a better year that year and LeBron was always going to be better than any version of Rose, healthy or injured. |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 25, 2023 23:27:43 GMT -5
Nuggets with Jokic this season: 47-19 (.712)
Nuggets without Jokic this season: 3-5 (.375)
76ers with Embiid this season: 40-21 (.656)
76ers without Embiid this season: 9-4 (.692)
Updated after the Nugs blew out the Bucks and the Suns blew out the Sixers.
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 26, 2023 0:04:15 GMT -5
One more game baby and this s**t talk about mvp will be over
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 26, 2023 1:50:33 GMT -5
He is a basketball player tho. And it is a part of basketball as well. So Lol what is your point Isnt that like ridicilously obvious. That flopping is literally a part of basketball |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 8:28:18 GMT -5
Isnt that like ridicilously obvious. That flopping is literally a part of basketball Not for a MVP candidate. Embiid is a whiny, injury prone, foul baiting flopper |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Mar 27, 2023 9:26:28 GMT -5
Jokic literally flops himself now and then
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 11:00:07 GMT -5
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Post by GBG on Mar 27, 2023 13:25:52 GMT -5
The key to the MVP award will be if Embiid plays in the next game AFTER tonight’s Nuggets game. If he does, national media narrative may change to the notion that Embiid intentionally dodged his matchup against Jokic to preserve his MVP chances. That narrative could be enough to swing the MVP frontrunner status back to Jokic. DraftKings odds already have narrowed this morning, with Jokic being +135 and Embiid -130. Over the weekend, Embiid was -180 And Jokic +180.
It was always Jokic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 13:42:30 GMT -5
Shams Charania
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Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic has won the 2022-23 NBA MVP award, sources tell
@theathletic @stadium
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 13:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 27, 2023 14:41:35 GMT -5
The key to the MVP award will be if Embiid plays in the next game AFTER tonight’s Nuggets game. If he does, national media narrative may change to the notion that Embiid intentionally dodged his matchup against Jokic to preserve his MVP chances. That narrative could be enough to swing the MVP frontrunner status back to Jokic. DraftKings odds already have narrowed this morning, with Jokic being +135 and Embiid -130. Over the weekend, Embiid was -180 And Jokic +180. It was always Jokic. So you think that the voters are stupid enough to believe that Embiid is injured and because of that is not playing tonight lol |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 27, 2023 14:43:14 GMT -5
It's super easy to believe he's injured because he's always injured.
But that's obviously not why he's sitting tonight. He could have easily sat one night of the back to back if that's what he wanted.
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 27, 2023 14:54:02 GMT -5
It's super easy to believe he's injured because he's always injured. But that's obviously not why he's sitting tonight. He could have easily sat one night of the back to back if that's what he wanted. There is no way Embiid wins it after this. Voters know what is going on. If they want to sabotage Jokic for whatever reason the award will go to Giannis not to Embiid |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 27, 2023 14:56:48 GMT -5
It's super easy to believe he's injured because he's always injured. But that's obviously not why he's sitting tonight. He could have easily sat one night of the back to back if that's what he wanted. There is no way Embiid wins it after this. Voters know what is going on. If they want to sabotage Jokic for whatever reason the award will go to Giannis not to Embiid Giannis has already missed 15 games and will likely miss more. That's just plain too many. This is Jokic's award. You can't be the MVP as a part time player. |
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 27, 2023 15:33:58 GMT -5
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