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Post by duh88 on Sept 4, 2024 16:57:04 GMT -5
right now it's a coinflip election. anyone promising otherwise is drinking the koolaid. I said the Dems were planning a palace coup against Biden and was dismissed a conspiracy theorist but perhaps you'll take heed to my warning now: Biden and Harris empowered a madman in Tel-Aviv that is attempting to set the Middle East on fire. if he succeeds in baiting Iran into an actual retaliatory strike (not a preformative one like before) and Biden and Harris in predictable fashion give blind and unthinking support to that vicious war criminal regime, Trump will play his "this wouldn't be happening if I was in charge" card and he will win the election. Democrats put the "fate of democracy" in the hands of Benjamin Netanyahu. Uh, there’s been some reporting that Trump spoke to Netanyahu to urge him to keep war going through election to help his chances. Netanyahu is corrupt and a Trump ally. Why would the electorate be so stupid as to vote Trump in office when he is even worse than Biden/Harris in enabling Netanyahu’s atrocities? We do live in an idiocracy, but that would be a potentially fatal self-inflicted wound if Trump wins due to voter unhappiness with Biden’s and Kamala’s Israel policy. Likud always supports whichever party can be bought with ease and has minimal principles. That would be the Dems (and uniparty-republicans). This is also why corporate-america supports Dems - you can pay the Democratic Party to do anything, as long as you're the highest bidder. Recall that Netanyahu was the first world leader to congratulate Biden. Israel wants the Dems. And yes - Trump has voiced support for israel - but he's also the only candidate that has openly criticized Netanyahu, openly complimented Abbas - and let's not forget that Biden and Harris refuse to walk back the $20 billion to Israel. If your priority is peace, there's only one candidate.
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Post by pie on Sept 4, 2024 17:22:07 GMT -5
Only Trump can bring peace
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 4, 2024 17:36:23 GMT -5
😂
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Post by GBG on Sept 4, 2024 17:52:01 GMT -5
I’ll have peace of mind that America hasn’t completely jumped off the cliff if Harris wins.
That’s the peace I know Harris brings.
Oh, and breaking news: Liz Cheney says “I will vote for Kamala Harris”!
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Post by jimijam28 on Sept 4, 2024 19:02:33 GMT -5
I’ll have peace of mind that America hasn’t completely jumped off the cliff if Harris wins. That’s the peace I know Harris brings. Oh, and breaking news: Liz Cheney says “I will vote for Kamala Harris”! Plus McCain son, the true Republicans are tired of maga
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Post by Ring on Sept 5, 2024 10:00:45 GMT -5
I genuinely hate both parties. 2 party system is absolutely killing the country. But it will never not blow my mind how these school shootings can happen and people can be proud, gun wielding Republicans. It's sickening.
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Post by TNF on Sept 5, 2024 11:55:06 GMT -5
It's easy...and lazy...to say "Both parties stink". It relieves people of their responsibilities of citizenship. There will always be two mediocre parties, and there will always be one which is worse than the other. Sometimes the difference is minimal and sometimes it's existential. Now is one of those existential times.
Trump is Hitler 2.0. A version with lots of issues needing correction before the next release. Hopefully his body will give it up before all the issues have been "corrected" or we'll really be f*cked.
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Post by GBG on Sept 5, 2024 12:35:05 GMT -5
I think Trump is more Mussolini than Hitler. Nether says anything good about him. But he’s performative the way Il Dulce was. Strikes similar poses. Offers simple solution to the masses for complex problems. That’s the formula for all fascists. Appeal to the lowest common denominator and make a complicated world seem to be easily taken care of.
There are no easy solutions to our challenges. But the rubes love the demagoguery and eat that stuff up.
That said, having only two parties that are viable and can win national elections is too few, and I hope the duopoly is broken some day. But this isn’t a parliamentary system. So I’m not holding my breath.
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Post by TNF on Sept 5, 2024 13:40:06 GMT -5
It will likely happen someday, and we likely won't be around to see it. I don't want to imagine what it will take societally to get there.
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Post by Ring on Sept 5, 2024 14:02:49 GMT -5
It's easy...and lazy...to say "Both parties stink". It relieves people of their responsibilities of citizenship. There will always be two mediocre parties, and there will always be one which is worse than the other. Sometimes the difference is minimal and sometimes it's existential. Now is one of those existential times. Trump is Hitler 2.0. A version with lots of issues needing correction before the next release. Hopefully his body will give it up before all the issues have been "corrected" or we'll really be f*cked. But why does there always have to be just two mediocre parties? Why can't we have a party that is genuinely for the people of the country they serve? Why does politics HAVE to be corrupt? It sucks and it's only getting worse. I'm only 33 but I feel like the political division in the last 10-15 years is far worse than the early 2000s (I could be wrong as I didn't care about politics as a 10 year old lol)
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Post by GBG on Sept 5, 2024 14:20:19 GMT -5
It's easy...and lazy...to say "Both parties stink". It relieves people of their responsibilities of citizenship. There will always be two mediocre parties, and there will always be one which is worse than the other. Sometimes the difference is minimal and sometimes it's existential. Now is one of those existential times. Trump is Hitler 2.0. A version with lots of issues needing correction before the next release. Hopefully his body will give it up before all the issues have been "corrected" or we'll really be f*cked. But why does there always have to be just two mediocre parties? Why can't we have a party that is genuinely for the people of the country they serve? Why does politics HAVE to be corrupt? It sucks and it's only getting worse. I'm only 33 but I feel like the political division in the last 10-15 years is far worse than the early 2000s (I could be wrong as I didn't care about politics as a 10 year old lol) The hyper-partisanship began around 1994 with Newt Gingrich and his “Contract for America” when the House won a majority during Clinton’s first term. He was a bomb thrower and demonized Dems. GOP impeached Clinton over an affair with an intern in 1998. Clinton got through that and was highly popular by his last year in 2000. Republicans got more partisan from there. Fox News also came into the discourse around 1996, which aided and abetted the partisanship. Rush Limbaugh was a bomb throwing right wing talk show host who fueled right wing anger too. But Trump put everything into overdrive, despite being a former pro-choice Democrat. He took over the GOP and, with the help of social media, turned the country into the mess it is today. But this current era really began 30 years ago, in 1994.
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Post by TNF on Sept 5, 2024 14:36:21 GMT -5
My degree is in political science. I was inspired to go for that based upon my hatred of Richard Nixon. Magically, we were studying the presidency specifically during Watergate, following it from the beginning. Every day there were new aspects revealed, and two of my four years the scandal was THE top story in the country. I did eventually meet John Dean and others involved. Believe it or not, I developed a soft spot for Nixon. When he died I shed a few surprising tears.
I guarantee I will never shed a tear for Trump.
Nixon was a failed president with many faults, but he actually accomplished a few progressive goals, including signing into law the EPA, Earth Day, and my favorite law of his time, the 55 mph speed limit. (almost everyone else hated it. I was commuting to Albuquerque regularly to be with the love of my life, and I hated dealing with people going 70+. My top speed ever was 65, so needless to say, it's been awhile since I've been on a highway)
My late father was a Holocaust survivor, a Jew born in Berlin in 1925. George W. Bush reminded him of Hitler, and he witnessed Kristallnacht. He was ready to disown my younger brother after his conversion to the Republican Party and his love for GWB. The same brother now thinks Bush is a liberal wimp and he loves and adores Trump.
I can't imagine a Trump second term. The United States would not survive. Never has there been a president, at least in this country, who was filled with such hate and vengeance.
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Post by JB on Sept 5, 2024 14:45:13 GMT -5
you're not going to get a more accurate answer than this.
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Post by TNF on Sept 5, 2024 14:55:18 GMT -5
It wasn't that long ago when there were actually good Republicans. Ike was definitely one of them. In recent times both John McCain and "Mitt" Romney were two really good and decent presidential candidates. (and I even began to like Bob Dole)
What happened?
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Post by GBG on Sept 5, 2024 16:35:18 GMT -5
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Post by JB on Sept 5, 2024 16:55:25 GMT -5
not to brag, but I also accurately predicted both Obama terms, Trump in 16 (I'm sure I could dig up a NT post to this point) and Biden in 2020 (covid crashing the economy and allowing Biden to campaign from his basement was the easiest call of them all).
but this gets a big yike from me dawg
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Post by GBG on Sept 5, 2024 17:18:00 GMT -5
not to brag, but I also accurately predicted both Obama terms, Trump in 16 (I'm sure I could dig up a NT post to this point) and Biden in 2020 (covid crashing the economy and allowing Biden to campaign from his basement was the easiest call of them all). but this gets a big yike from me dawg “Could be”….Lichtman was referring at the time to the possibility that Biden withdrawal could lead to an intraparty free-for-all and discord as the party struggles to select another nominee. He took that possibility off the table when the Dems quickly coalesced around Harris as the nominee, including endorsements across the spectrum of Dem thought leaders, from AOC to Joe Manchin. He quickly praised the party for not fracturing and quickly falling in line behind the next in line, the current VP.
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Post by duh88 on Sept 6, 2024 1:27:02 GMT -5
I genuinely hate both parties. 2 party system is absolutely killing the country. But it will never not blow my mind how these school shootings can happen and people can be proud, gun wielding Republicans. It's sickening. 1. Most of these gun events are likely tied to intelligence agencies - read the notes on the Vegas concert shooting. You’ll be absolutely livid at local law enforcement and the fbi once you’re finished reading. 2. Criminals will maintain easy access to guns even if they’re banned - primarily because of the funnels from mexico. The solution is that good people have access and learn to shoot - that’s why our side won’t cede an inch on this debate.
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Post by duh88 on Sept 6, 2024 1:30:07 GMT -5
Love Lichtman but he’s a compromised asset. They’re going to attempt to steal the election like they did 2020 - but perception needs to dictate that Kamala can win - and this is in spite of Nate silvers forecast showing trump at 60% and surging. I know lichtman’s keys well - Kamala loses on - - there was no major policy change - short term economy is garbage (jobs report anyone?) - there was scandal in the form of Biden family taking bribes from Ukraine and Kamala knew it - the foreign policy keys do not favor them Lichtman is doing amazing intellectual gymnastics to help the dnc on this one
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Post by duh88 on Sept 6, 2024 1:32:43 GMT -5
It wasn't that long ago when there were actually good Republicans. Ike was definitely one of them. In recent times both John McCain and "Mitt" Romney were two really good and decent presidential candidates. (and I even began to like Bob Dole) What happened? Uncle - McCain and Romney are uniparty goons who constantly support forever wars that then inadvertently pay the pockets of the rest of the uniparty cabal - this is why both, at this time, get high praise from the uniparty affiliated class (New York times, foreign affairs journal etc) - Wash DC wants a two party system where both parties favor forever wars Regarding dole - wonderful man who often went against the uniparty - I’ll note that he was present at trumps inauguration and proud to be there
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