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Post by Nugz Junkie on May 6, 2009 10:01:07 GMT -5
Yes, no doubt that we have now been receiving national media attention and respect. It is a nice change, I almost feel like arguing with them...then I am like "oh wait, did they just say something nice?"
Barkley actually said that if he had a pick a team to win it ALL this year, he would have to go with Denver right now. WHAT!!! Even I do not think they can win the championship, but wow...just to be in that dicussion! Pinch me!
Obversations about the first two games:
1. They have no answer for Nene...we need to continue to expose that.
2. We have no answer for Dirk, but he seems to disappear in the 4th.
3. Our theory to not double Dirk sometimes looks absurd, but you don't get the feeling that anyone but Dirk is going to burn us.
4. AC guards JET very very well...way better than Jones or Smith or Billups.
5. It is amazing how different players match up good or bad against each other. Last series we saw how valuable Jones was in guarding Paul. This series, Jones has looked...well like he has all year - very average. His defense has really not been a huge factor at all. In fact, Jones was the only starter with a - rating last night, finishing -12, worst on the team.
6. We need more AC, less Jones in this series.
7. They double Melo every single time he gets the ball. But Melo has been doing good at staying patient, though he needs to cool it on the 3 pointers.
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Post by amazing grace & Chuck on May 6, 2009 10:16:10 GMT -5
I think if they'd bring Jones on when terry enters the game he'd be more effective. But I also see the argument of making the other team adjust to you so I cant criticize too bad. I'm also fine with Dirk getting 30 a game, I think single coverage is a good call as long as no one but him goes off were good. I also think he's getting worn down by kmart and Bird and so when it matters he has nothing left in the tank but frustration.
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Post by phil on May 6, 2009 10:29:39 GMT -5
AC has done a better job on Terry than Jones.
re Dirk: Dirk has no gas in the tank in the 4th because he gets no easy shots. He has to work so hard for everything he gets. Everytime time he gets the ball someone stronger than him is leaning on him pushing him or holding him. That takes its toll on him and why he has no gas in the 4th.
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Post by Tydru on May 6, 2009 11:32:17 GMT -5
Another thing that Charles Barkley said last night, that I really thought was spot on, "These guys are starting to realize that they're pretty damn good." I've heard GK say it a few times throughout the season actually, but this team believes in itself more and more every day, and it shows. They trust each other and enjoy playing with each other.
They KNOW that if they play their game and do the things they're supposed to do, they'll win games.
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Post by rock on May 6, 2009 11:35:50 GMT -5
anyone to go game 2? just wondering how the crowd was (its hard to really tell on tv sometimes).
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Post by brick on May 6, 2009 11:37:19 GMT -5
Yeah, they know they can win. That kind of confidence is something I don't ever remember seeing from the Nugs in 20+ years of watching. In the first quarter I told my son, "look they are not worried at all. It's just a matter of time before they break it open." And boom they jumped out to a good lead right then. Of course they lost it later, but again, going into the 4th you could just see the looks on their faces like, "time to turn up the heat."
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Post by Tydru on May 6, 2009 11:39:46 GMT -5
Yes, no doubt that we have now been receiving national media attention and respect. It is a nice change, I almost feel like arguing with them...then I am like "oh wait, did they just say something nice?" Barkley actually said that if he had a pick a team to win it ALL this year, he would have to go with Denver right now. WHAT!!! Even I do not think they can win the championship, but wow...just to be in that dicussion! Pinch me! Obversations about the first two games: 1. They have no answer for Nene...we need to continue to expose that. 2. We have no answer for Dirk, but he seems to disappear in the 4th. 3. Our theory to not double Dirk sometimes looks absurd, but you don't get the feeling that anyone but Dirk is going to burn us. 4. AC guards JET very very well...way better than Jones or Smith or Billups. 5. It is amazing how different players match up good or bad against each other. Last series we saw how valuable Jones was in guarding Paul. This series, Jones has looked...well like he has all year - very average. His defense has really not been a huge factor at all. In fact, Jones was the only starter with a - rating last night, finishing -12, worst on the team. 6. We need more AC, less Jones in this series. 7. They double Melo every single time he gets the ball. But Melo has been doing good at staying patient, though he needs to cool it on the 3 pointers. Completely agreededed. I love the defensive idea on Dirk. Honestly, he's gonna score 30+ no matter what we do... it's just a fact. We don't match up well with him, he's one of few players that you can defend absolutely perfectly and he'll still hit that off-balance fall-away turnaround jumper... you can't defend it, it's impossible. Let him score... he can't outscore us by himself, the less involved his teammates are, the better we look. Even better, if you put a body on him, he's willing to settle for jumpers. I noticed the same thing about Dahntay... he's back to looking like one of the worst players in the league. He was almost single-handedly responsible for the lead shrinking in garbage time. He's not as well suited to defend Dallas as he was Paul. I agree, AC is the better option for those minutes... I might just swap their roles and have AC start. Their doubling of Melo is interesting. Dirk is trying to kill us solo and failing, they're getting killed by everyone BUT Melo. Melo's been himself, just steady... rarely spectacular, but you look up at the end of the night and he's got 25.
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Post by amazing grace & Chuck on May 6, 2009 11:46:58 GMT -5
anyone to go game 2? just wondering how the crowd was (its hard to really tell on tv sometimes). I went to both. The crowd last night was more festive (I think more people were lit up and confident being up one game). Both were insanely loud and fun to be at, the first game had a way more tense feel to it with everyone on the edge of their seat and nervous. Even though last nights didnt pull away until the fourth it really wasnt close to as tense I didnt think, people werent as worried, even when the mavs started out strong. Only thing that took the wind out of the crowds sails was JR's bonehead move at the end of the half, from the crowds mood that was ready for him to hit that shot it was a six point swing in a few seconds.
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Post by scooter on May 6, 2009 11:59:57 GMT -5
Dirk isn't the flopper Denver meth addicts make him out to be. Save the boos for legitimate assholes. Its not so much that he flops to draw fouls. The thing that gets me is how much Dirk gets away with on the offensive end. He travels at least 3 times per game and never gets called. And he clears out space constantly by flopping around and throwing out his elbows, shoulders etc. and never gets called for offensive fouls. Melo doesn't get those no calls.
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Post by rock on May 6, 2009 12:03:24 GMT -5
what i dont get (re; dirk flopping) is that ive played A LOT of basketball and its a physical game and i can count on one hand how many times ive been knocked to the ground with regular incidental contact. why is that the mavs are on the ground on every other play? no matter the contact, they are on their asses. wtf? that doesnt happen in basketball that often.
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Post by scooter on May 6, 2009 12:05:45 GMT -5
You're f***ing pathetic, JR. What a moron. Pretty harsh. JR has played good ball. He had been hot and just shot it 2 seconds early. Billups was pretty open but JR had been much hotter from three and a cross court pass there is a little dangerous because of the risk a defender is baiting it.
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Post by brick on May 6, 2009 12:12:36 GMT -5
what i dont get (re; dirk flopping) is that ive played A LOT of basketball and its a physical game and i can count on one hand how many times ive been knocked to the ground with regular incidental contact. why is that the mavs are on the ground on every other play? no matter the contact, they are on their asses. wtf? that doesnt happen in basketball that often. Yeah that is strange. Occasionally I've put guys on their butts with hard screens but I've only hit the floor once on a shot.
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Post by scooter on May 6, 2009 12:28:53 GMT -5
One thing that was pissing me off was Cuban -- who is right behind the bench and standing for periods of time -- complaining to one of the refs and the ref actually talking back to him in what seemed like a relatively friendly manner. I couldn't hear it but it didn't seem like the ref was telling him to sit down and shut up.
I don't think owners should be allowed to speak with the refs. Gives the appearance of intimidation. Coaches are one thing -- they are hired hands -- but the owners are the owners -- there is a difference. They should not be part of the game.
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Post by Tydru on May 6, 2009 13:00:53 GMT -5
By the way... anyone know what happened to that lady in the crowd that caused the delay? TNT said both trainers were there, and it was serious enough to actually delay the game.
Heart attack, or something?
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Post by corona on May 6, 2009 13:29:18 GMT -5
By the way... anyone know what happened to that lady in the crowd that caused the delay? TNT said both trainers were there, and it was serious enough to actually delay the game. Heart attack, or something? well we are in the devils lair. so its no surprise people are dying on the side of the court [/tremaine]
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Post by Nugz Junkie on May 6, 2009 15:20:19 GMT -5
what i dont get (re; dirk flopping) is that ive played A LOT of basketball and its a physical game and i can count on one hand how many times ive been knocked to the ground with regular incidental contact. why is that the mavs are on the ground on every other play? no matter the contact, they are on their asses. wtf? that doesnt happen in basketball that often. I remember a play yesterday (I believe in the 3rd quarter) that Billups toughed through a screen and I believe he actually stole the ball from Kidd, but Kidd just fell over...a total flop...and ended up getting two FT's out of it. Just lovely!
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Post by ruru on May 6, 2009 17:30:51 GMT -5
Here is the thing about that front runner tag: Don't you have to be pretty good to get to be a front runner? I think by front runner, what they really mean is they have a killer instinct (as tydru said) and that they close out strong. Will the Nuggets blow a 10 point lead here and there? Sure they will. Will they get down by 10 or 15 every now and again? Sure they will. They certainly weren't front running when Dallas took a 9 point lead in the first quarter on Sunday. What the Nuggets do is fight back, stay in the game, wear you down and then when they smell blood in the late third, early fourth. . . they slaughter you. I thought we'd beat Dallas from day one, but I didn't think we'd blow them out more than once in the seven games. If you'd told me all of the factors Dallas would have in its favor last night, I'd have said that was the recipe for disaster. Instead they smelled blood in the fourth and blitzed them again. Man, I love this team. (I know corona has a thread on it, and he's dead on) I thought tehy could blow-them out and I think they can blow them out in Dallas. Mavs made a ton of tough shots the first two games. I see the pressure of not looking like the inferior team on their home-court is going to add to that. The Mavs know exactly what is going. They are completely outmatched. They are rattled as Kidd said. They know their time is soon. When you get two great games from Dirk and still get blown up... Also, we have shot below 33% from 3 through the first 2 games and our overall jump shot % is also below 33%. And While Dallas is a jump-shooting team, they are still converting at an above-average rate for them. So, even if you think this team reverts to more of a slow-down game and the fast-break points decline, there are so many areas Denver can make-up for their offense-- whereas Dallas can't. The only guy that worries is JJ. I think he will have some good games-- where Dirk's production is likely to slip some (at least the rate he is making his jumpers) I think we can sweep and I think one of the games will be a blow-out.
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Post by Phonzie20 on May 6, 2009 17:47:05 GMT -5
The Altitude post game guys are buzzed. It's so obvious. Am I missing something, because Altitude has not been broadcasting the games in the second round at all...and I have not seen any postgame crap from them either?? The game wasn't broadcasted via Altitude but they still have a post-game show. They were broadcasting from a bar.
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Post by Phonzie20 on May 6, 2009 17:47:50 GMT -5
By the way... anyone know what happened to that lady in the crowd that caused the delay? TNT said both trainers were there, and it was serious enough to actually delay the game. Heart attack, or something? when it was mentioned it was a woman feeling faint I assumed it was cambrad.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 18:52:58 GMT -5
Here is the thing about that front runner tag: Don't you have to be pretty good to get to be a front runner? I think by front runner, what they really mean is they have a killer instinct (as tydru said) and that they close out strong. Will the Nuggets blow a 10 point lead here and there? Sure they will. Will they get down by 10 or 15 every now and again? Sure they will. They certainly weren't front running when Dallas took a 9 point lead in the first quarter on Sunday. What the Nuggets do is fight back, stay in the game, wear you down and then when they smell blood in the late third, early fourth. . . they slaughter you. I thought we'd beat Dallas from day one, but I didn't think we'd blow them out more than once in the seven games. If you'd told me all of the factors Dallas would have in its favor last night, I'd have said that was the recipe for disaster. Instead they smelled blood in the fourth and blitzed them again. Man, I love this team. (I know corona has a thread on it, and he's dead on) there is absolutely no panic with this team. i love it. GK has a huge reputation of panicking in the playoffs. this year he is letting them play ball. i dont see him laughing or cheering. i dont see him shaking his head as much either. ive really never seen him so determined. ever. his post game comments have been money. i think it starts from the top. these guys from GK all the way down to jason hart are expecting to win no matter what. again, i love it.
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