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Post by somborshuffle on Nov 4, 2024 7:53:25 GMT -5
Speaking of 3pt shooting... if Jamal remembers how to play basketball do we potentially have 5 starters who could hover around the 40% mark this year from 3?
If a respectable bench unit can be willed into existence, this team has a very high ceiling.
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Post by GBG on Nov 4, 2024 8:20:08 GMT -5
Speaking of 3pt shooting... if Jamal remembers how to play basketball do we potentially have 5 starters who could hover around the 40% mark this year from 3? If a respectable bench unit can be willed into existence, this team has a very high ceiling. The answer is most likely No. So many here are reading too much into small sample sizes and have recency bias. It’s great that Jokic and AG have started off red hot behind the three point line, but neither have ever shot 40%+ from distance over a full season. It helps that they’re doing it now in the absence of the Jamal Murray we’d grown accustomed to, but it’s only Murray and MPJ who have proven they can shoot 40% from 3 in any given season. CB hasn’t proven he’s any more than a mid-30’s shooter on volume. Maybe upper 30’s if he continues to make a leap. Nuggets are shooting 38.0% from 3, though, through six games. Perhaps the worries this is a poor 3PT shooting team were overblown, but again a six game sample is tiny, and I don’t think it means much. |
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 4, 2024 9:31:00 GMT -5
Speaking of 3pt shooting... if Jamal remembers how to play basketball do we potentially have 5 starters who could hover around the 40% mark this year from 3? If a respectable bench unit can be willed into existence, this team has a very high ceiling. The answer is most likely No. So many here are reading too much into small sample sizes and have recency bias. It’s great that Jokic and AG have started off red hot behind the three point line, but neither have ever shot 40%+ from distance over a full season. It helps that they’re doing it now in the absence of the Jamal Murray we’d grown accustomed to, but it’s only Murray and MPJ who have proven they can shoot 40% from 3 in any given season. CB hasn’t proven he’s any more than a mid-30’s shooter on volume. Maybe upper 30’s if he continues to make a leap. Nuggets are shooting 38.0% from 3, though, through six games. Perhaps the worries this is a poor 3PT shooting team were overblown, but again a six game sample is tiny, and I don’t think it means much. Nothing untrue about this. However over a season, there is a precedent for both Jokic and AG to have good three point shooting numbers. 2 years ago AG shot nearly 35%, and Jokic shot over 38%. If CB has taken a decent leap…you could at least be talking about 38-39% from 3 by our starting 5. I know this is the season of ‘if then and if then’ when it comes to the nuggets, but if I squint hard enough I can see a decent 3pt shooting starting lineup. The issue will be the bench…where our best shooter shot under 30% last year and the other guard is the wurst volume shooter perhaps in nba history. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Nov 4, 2024 11:15:54 GMT -5
Speaking of 3pt shooting... if Jamal remembers how to play basketball do we potentially have 5 starters who could hover around the 40% mark this year from 3? If a respectable bench unit can be willed into existence, this team has a very high ceiling. The answer is most likely No. So many here are reading too much into small sample sizes and have recency bias. It’s great that Jokic and AG have started off red hot behind the three point line, but neither have ever shot 40%+ from distance over a full season. It helps that they’re doing it now in the absence of the Jamal Murray we’d grown accustomed to, but it’s only Murray and MPJ who have proven they can shoot 40% from 3 in any given season. CB hasn’t proven he’s any more than a mid-30’s shooter on volume. Maybe upper 30’s if he continues to make a leap. Nuggets are shooting 38.0% from 3, though, through six games. Perhaps the worries this is a poor 3PT shooting team were overblown, but again a six game sample is tiny, and I don’t think it means much. As you say 40% from all 5 would be unrealistic. BUT 36-38% on good volume from both Jok, AG, and CB would be great imo! Biggest thing as well is AG and CB getting comfortable taking those 3's in rhythm. Having them not hesitate come playoff time, and possibly teams needing to guard them opens up our offense immensely. |
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Post by GBG on Nov 4, 2024 12:01:48 GMT -5
The answer is most likely No. So many here are reading too much into small sample sizes and have recency bias. It’s great that Jokic and AG have started off red hot behind the three point line, but neither have ever shot 40%+ from distance over a full season. It helps that they’re doing it now in the absence of the Jamal Murray we’d grown accustomed to, but it’s only Murray and MPJ who have proven they can shoot 40% from 3 in any given season. CB hasn’t proven he’s any more than a mid-30’s shooter on volume. Maybe upper 30’s if he continues to make a leap. Nuggets are shooting 38.0% from 3, though, through six games. Perhaps the worries this is a poor 3PT shooting team were overblown, but again a six game sample is tiny, and I don’t think it means much. As you say 40% from all 5 would be unrealistic. BUT 36-38% on good volume from both Jok, AG, and CB would be great imo! Biggest thing as well is AG and CB getting comfortable taking those 3's in rhythm. Having them not hesitate come playoff time, and possibly teams needing to guard them opens up our offense immensely. This is probably a realistic best case scenario. AG has shot the 3-ball well in the last two postseasons too, at 29-73, or 39.7% over 32 playoff games. He’s sorta clutch. So he certainly could shoot up to the high 30’s in RS, thought it’s not his base case but rather more of a best case. Jokic has been at 35.3% for his career in regular season, but rises to 39.0% in postseason. The last two postseasons have been dramatically different, shooting 46.1% and 26.4% from 3 in 2023 and 2024 respectively. He’s 49-129 or 38.0% on higher playoff volume than AG, but which shooter will show up for playoffs? 2023 Jokic or 2024 Jokic? Gordon was at least consistent the past two postseasons at 39.1% and 40.7%. So much depends on Jokic and his rest level. I contend he shot so well in 2023 playoffs because he load managed the final month as the whole team did. In 2024, he was going all out for 1-seed, and couldn’t even get that as he contributed to the late game collapse to San Antonio in game 82. We lost in Minny the other night for the exact same reason. Joker was great in that game but had nothing left in final three minutes, which led to several turnovers and missed shots. So back to your comment, it would be great if all our starters can be mid 30’s and up as 3 point shooters this season. But it would be better if they can get some rest along the way and still have their shooting legs capable of doing the same in the playoffs. They won’t shoot as well, though, in postseason due to minutes accumulated in RS. And due to defenses playing tougher in playoffs. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Nov 4, 2024 14:02:09 GMT -5
why cant they sign CB for 20? because they would enter 2nd apron. and if they didn't want to resign KCP for it, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't sign CB... also, in 2026. Nuggets will have 2 players costing over 50M, one 40M and one 30M. you can't build team that way. and since Jamal just sign an extension, I think they will move MPJ sooner rather then later, taking whatever deal they can. if they somehow can deal MPJ and Zeke, move them off the books, they can get two 20M guys... its far from perfect, probably going to hurt us in a long run, but you can't have 4 players costing over 170M. that leaves you with 10 minimum contract players and rookies. thats unsustainable. you need 3-4 rotation players that worth 10-15M each along 2-3 high paid guys. thats your 6 man rotation, plus two veterans and two guys on rookie deals. thats how we won title. we had Jamal, MPJ and Jokic on max deals, AG and KCP earning less then 35 combined, plus BB, Green and CB to make 8 man playoff rotation. AG cost little more then we would've liked, but we got Bruce for nothing, so it evens out. but trying to get Bruce Brown type of player every year for 5M is fools gold. its not happening. We shouldnt win a ring if we not willing to spend the money to win it. Simple as that |
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