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Post by GBG on Oct 26, 2024 21:23:42 GMT -5
I thought Murray was actually really good up until the last 2 minutes of the game. ... did you not watch the first half? Did he not watch the defense on Powell and Harden, or whoever he was guarding? Did he not see the critical live ball turnover? Did he ignore his hero ball layup into traffic? Murray had a decent offensive game in terms of efficiency. He was horrific otherwise. |
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Post by JB on Oct 26, 2024 22:17:00 GMT -5
the savior of the Denver Nuggets KCP is average 6 points on 25% FG and 20% from 3 this season.
I practically begged the Nuggets to replace him with GTJ who is currently averaging 11 points on .648 TS%. we didn't even give him a call. what an utter disaster class the off season was.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 26, 2024 22:22:30 GMT -5
the savior of the Denver Nuggets KCP is average 6 points on 25% FG and 20% from 3 this season. I practically begged the Nuggets to replace him with GTJ who is currently averaging 11 points on .648 TS%. we didn't even give him a call. what an utter disaster class the off season was. All we need now is Justin Holiday to sign somewhere and put up 10 ppg on 41% 3PT shooting. That will make our humiliation complete. Or Braxton Key to get called up to the Clips big squad and pull a triple double out of his ass. |
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Post by somborshuffle on Oct 26, 2024 22:23:24 GMT -5
Huff >>> Saric.
And did he even get one single minute of non-garbage time NBA playing time last year?
So frustrating.
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Post by freakns on Oct 27, 2024 1:07:43 GMT -5
everyone needs to chill a bit...
while our roster looks like s**t, biggest problem right now is that our starts are playing like s**t. I know Jokic had 41 points, but he was horrible defensively. Zubac finished with 24/15, with 4 out of those 15 being offensive rebounds, plus every single time Harden or Powell drive it was an easy bucket. Jamal was even worse defensively, MPJ can't hit a shot, and AG is not giving you anything on both sides of the floor.
biggest issue remains lack of offense, specifically, no points in the paint. both OKC and LAC have clog the paint, daring Nuggets to shoot. this has completely killed our offense. AG is useless, Jokic has to play from outside(he isn't shooting 7/11 from 3 every game) and our backcourt is too static. Nuggets had only 20 assists last night, which is bad. AG, Westbrook and Watson are left wide open all the time, no one is even trying to close on their 3 points, and Nuggets can't do s**t to take advantage of it. after 2 games Nuggets have worst 3pt% in the league and worst FG% in the league. for the last 5 seasons Nuggets were always top 5 in percentages. we weren't hitting too much threes cause we didn't shoot too much threes, but the ones we took, we hit. and right now, no one is shooting lights out and finishing at the rim is at all time low.
ps. Russ, while being horrible offensively first two games, have been awesome defensively. after CB he is easily second best defender after two games. this tells a lot about AG and PWat... not to mention we lost two games where we played decent on defense. laughable
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 27, 2024 4:56:18 GMT -5
Even if they re-signed KCP this team would still look atrocious. Put the blame on Calvin and the front office. The 2 guys they signed have so far been as bad as anyone you imagine. KCP has plenty of flaws, but starting two non-shooters with Jokic is something I would expect a child to know is a terrible idea. No team in the league is punting on spacing like this stupid team. Then you have two more non-shooters in your bench four, which makes rotations absolutely impossible. It's actually like the team was assembled by somebody who is purposely trying to make Jokic retire early. The second apron is definitely a cheap ass Kroenkes thing, don't get me wrong. Assembling this jackass crew of guys who can't shoot around an all-time creator is all Booth. Fire Calvin Booth. But our issue wasn't Braun who made his 3 he took and was elite defensively last night. Our issue was MPJ and AG.its not good when Braun looks more explosive offensively then AG. MPJ shooting 38+% from 3 and we win this game by 10+ |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 27, 2024 4:58:50 GMT -5
everyone needs to chill a bit... while our roster looks like s**t, biggest problem right now is that our starts are playing like s**t. I know Jokic had 41 points, but he was horrible defensively. Zubac finished with 24/15, with 4 out of those 15 being offensive rebounds, plus every single time Harden or Powell drive it was an easy bucket. Jamal was even worse defensively, MPJ can't hit a shot, and AG is not giving you anything on both sides of the floor. biggest issue remains lack of offense, specifically, no points in the paint. both OKC and LAC have clog the paint, daring Nuggets to shoot. this has completely killed our offense. AG is useless, Jokic has to play from outside(he isn't shooting 7/11 from 3 every game) and our backcourt is too static. Nuggets had only 20 assists last night, which is bad. AG, Westbrook and Watson are left wide open all the time, no one is even trying to close on their 3 points, and Nuggets can't do s**t to take advantage of it. after 2 games Nuggets have worst 3pt% in the league and worst FG% in the league. for the last 5 seasons Nuggets were always top 5 in percentages. we weren't hitting too much threes cause we didn't shoot too much threes, but the ones we took, we hit. and right now, no one is shooting lights out and finishing at the rim is at all time low. ps. Russ, while being horrible offensively first two games, have been awesome defensively. after CB he is easily second best defender after two games. this tells a lot about AG and PWat... not to mention we lost two games where we played decent on defense. laughable Zubac scored that much over out guys in rotation not on Jokic. When we tried to play drop coverage Harden destroyed us. We lost that game defensively from Murray and MPJ who were both horrible defensively. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 27, 2024 7:41:24 GMT -5
the savior of the Denver Nuggets KCP is average 6 points on 25% FG and 20% from 3 this season. I practically begged the Nuggets to replace him with GTJ who is currently averaging 11 points on .648 TS%. we didn't even give him a call. what an utter disaster class the off season was. Would have loved GTJ and would have shut up about KCP immidiately |
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Post by wicked3line on Oct 27, 2024 10:53:28 GMT -5
the savior of the Denver Nuggets KCP is average 6 points on 25% FG and 20% from 3 this season. I practically begged the Nuggets to replace him with GTJ who is currently averaging 11 points on .648 TS%. we didn't even give him a call. what an utter disaster class the off season was. Would have loved GTJ and would have shut up about KCP immidiately Nuggets problems in games 1 and 2 have very little to do with CB vs what KCP or GTJ would have done (which so far KCP = bad). INSTEAD, the problems largely involve the "Next 3" in Jamal, AG, and MPJ looking horrible while the bench has just been bad. People need to move on from the KCP debate and realize we can't have the Next 3 be mediocre while the bench doesn't do anything. |
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Post by GBG on Oct 27, 2024 11:40:48 GMT -5
We started our championship season 2-2, so if we win at Toronto and Brooklyn we will match that, and all is well. Maybe.
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Post by scooter on Oct 27, 2024 12:04:56 GMT -5
The team has quite a few new or almost new parts and will play better with more familiarity. And overall, I think the team’s defense will be fine.
Big picture the thing that concerns me is court spacing. Better court spacing makes everything run more smoothly and makes the game more attractive as well, IMO. Obviously, with Jokic and some other good (if not Jokic level) inside scorers, the team isn’t as dependent on court spacing and outside shooting as much as a lot of teams, but you still need decent court spacing to create room to operate. I am confident Porter will play better and he’ll get his shot going and that will help the court spacing. He is second guessing his shot too much and needs to trust it and just let it fly more often. The late game turnover when he left his spot in the corner was a good example of that and I’m sure Porter already knows that.
I am hopeful that Westbrook and Saric will figure out how to play together, although their styles and natural tendencies are quite divergent. Based on some improved play from Nnaji we saw in the preseason, I do wonder if maybe he should be playing over Saric. Even if not a great NBA athlete, he’s better than Saric. He provides a little bit of a lob threat while Saric is none. His footspeed is better and he’s a more mobile defender, and that might be a better fit in bench lineups the coaching staff wants to play with defensive aggression and running the court hard on offense.
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Post by GBG on Oct 27, 2024 12:10:30 GMT -5
The team has quite a few new or almost new parts and will play better with more familiarity. And overall, I think the team’s defense will be fine. Big picture the thing that concerns me is court spacing. Better court spacing makes everything run more smoothly and makes the game more attractive as well, IMO. Obviously, with Jokic and some other good (if not Jokic level) inside scorers, the team isn’t as dependent on court spacing and outside shooting as much as a lot of teams, but you still need decent court spacing to create room to operate. I am confident Porter will play better and he’ll get his shot going and that will help the court spacing. He is second guessing his shot too much and needs to trust it and just let it fly more often. The late game turnover when he left his spot in the corner was a good example of that and I’m sure Porter already knows that. I am hopeful that Westbrook and Saric will figure out how to play together, although their styles and natural tendencies are quite divergent. Based on some improved play from Nnaji we saw in the preseason, I do wonder if maybe he should be playing over Saric. Even if not a great NBA athlete, he’s better than Saric. He provides a little bit of a lob threat while Saric is none. His footspeed is better and he’s a more mobile defender, and that might be a better fit in bench lineups the coaching staff wants to play with defensive aggression and running the court hard on offense. I was thinking for a moment that Malone will give Saric a long leash because we just paid him the TPMLE, and need to justify it. However, then it dawned on me that Zeke makes more than Saric. At this point, I give Saric one or two more games, and if he isn’t contributing, sit him down for Zeke or Cancar. I’d try Zeke first for the reasons you mentioned. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 27, 2024 12:51:31 GMT -5
Would have loved GTJ and would have shut up about KCP immidiately Nuggets problems in games 1 and 2 have very little to do with CB vs what KCP or GTJ would have done (which so far KCP = bad). INSTEAD, the problems largely involve the "Next 3" in Jamal, AG, and MPJ looking horrible while the bench has just been bad. People need to move on from the KCP debate and realize we can't have the Next 3 be mediocre while the bench doesn't do anything. I really dont care that much about these two games. I care about the state of the team and our chances at a good seed and another championship run |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 27, 2024 13:36:31 GMT -5
Would have loved GTJ and would have shut up about KCP immidiately Nuggets problems in games 1 and 2 have very little to do with CB vs what KCP or GTJ would have done (which so far KCP = bad). INSTEAD, the problems largely involve the "Next 3" in Jamal, AG, and MPJ looking horrible while the bench has just been bad. People need to move on from the KCP debate and realize we can't have the Next 3 be mediocre while the bench doesn't do anything. Role players should be feeding off the gravity of your stars. The issue is that Murray and MPJ have given the bench nothing when they play with it. MPJ got plenty of wide open looks in the 2nd quarter. He has to step up! That will put our bench in a better situation to be more successful imo. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 27, 2024 13:43:16 GMT -5
The team has quite a few new or almost new parts and will play better with more familiarity. And overall, I think the team’s defense will be fine. Big picture the thing that concerns me is court spacing. Better court spacing makes everything run more smoothly and makes the game more attractive as well, IMO. Obviously, with Jokic and some other good (if not Jokic level) inside scorers, the team isn’t as dependent on court spacing and outside shooting as much as a lot of teams, but you still need decent court spacing to create room to operate. I am confident Porter will play better and he’ll get his shot going and that will help the court spacing. He is second guessing his shot too much and needs to trust it and just let it fly more often. The late game turnover when he left his spot in the corner was a good example of that and I’m sure Porter already knows that. I am hopeful that Westbrook and Saric will figure out how to play together, although their styles and natural tendencies are quite divergent. Based on some improved play from Nnaji we saw in the preseason, I do wonder if maybe he should be playing over Saric. Even if not a great NBA athlete, he’s better than Saric. He provides a little bit of a lob threat while Saric is none. His footspeed is better and he’s a more mobile defender, and that might be a better fit in bench lineups the coaching staff wants to play with defensive aggression and running the court hard on offense. I think Naji's issues are the same one's Saric is having. While Saric is playing an undersized 5, he's basically being asked to post up and rebound against guys bigger then him. When has Naji and Saric (I've watched him in previous seasons) looked good when they can space. We use them in those situations never in our bench unit. It's why Huff has looked good away from Denver. He's basically playing out on perimeter and making shots when they pass him the ball. I'd be fine with that for Naji or Saric, but we don't use them that way. We use them like they're Deandre Jordan or Myles Plumlee, when there skillset is much different than that. So for me this comes down to coaching and optimizing your talent. We need to match our schemes to our personnel, not the other way around. Secondly, and they finally did it second half yesterday, but why were they switching with Saric. We don't do that with the starters, and so why do it with the bench. When we get to the playoffs, if those guys play in the playoffs they need to know how to hedge and recover or recover and rotate. It doesn't make sense, nor is it what's best for Saric defensively. They'd be better off playing Naji w/ Saric IF Naji 3 point shooting is real. That would give more size to 2nd unit and put us in a better spot defensively. Playing PWat at the 4 and then Strawther at the 3 puts everyone up a position from there natural position and kills our rebounding. Then playing Murray who's been a traffic cone defensively playing with the 2nd unit is as much a disaster defensively as Saric is. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 27, 2024 13:44:59 GMT -5
The team has quite a few new or almost new parts and will play better with more familiarity. And overall, I think the team’s defense will be fine. Big picture the thing that concerns me is court spacing. Better court spacing makes everything run more smoothly and makes the game more attractive as well, IMO. Obviously, with Jokic and some other good (if not Jokic level) inside scorers, the team isn’t as dependent on court spacing and outside shooting as much as a lot of teams, but you still need decent court spacing to create room to operate. I am confident Porter will play better and he’ll get his shot going and that will help the court spacing. He is second guessing his shot too much and needs to trust it and just let it fly more often. The late game turnover when he left his spot in the corner was a good example of that and I’m sure Porter already knows that. I am hopeful that Westbrook and Saric will figure out how to play together, although their styles and natural tendencies are quite divergent. Based on some improved play from Nnaji we saw in the preseason, I do wonder if maybe he should be playing over Saric. Even if not a great NBA athlete, he’s better than Saric. He provides a little bit of a lob threat while Saric is none. His footspeed is better and he’s a more mobile defender, and that might be a better fit in bench lineups the coaching staff wants to play with defensive aggression and running the court hard on offense. I was thinking for a moment that Malone will give Saric a long leash because we just paid him the TPMLE, and need to justify it. However, then it dawned on me that Zeke makes more than Saric. At this point, I give Saric one or two more games, and if he isn’t contributing, sit him down for Zeke or Cancar. I’d try Zeke first for the reasons you mentioned. Playing Cancar at the 5 would be a bigger disaster defensively then Saric. He's not as good of rebounder and we would get slaughtered worse then we already are down low. I thought Saric did better 2nd half defensively when he had to guard Zubac, especially when he started fronting him. I like Cancar but he's a 3 or a 4 he's definitely NOT a 5. |
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Post by JB on Oct 27, 2024 13:53:48 GMT -5
Saric is 6'10 225 pounds and has been playing center exclusively for the past 5 years. let's not overthink things now.
Malone needs to rediscover his hockey shift roots and just commit to developing a bench chemistry. there's no reason why a big that can shoot won't thrive in Russ' drive and kick game.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 27, 2024 14:08:41 GMT -5
Saric is 6'10 225 pounds and has been playing center exclusively for the past 5 years. let's not overthink things now. Malone needs to rediscover his hockey shift roots and just commit to developing a bench chemistry. there's no reason why a big that can shoot won't thrive in Russ' drive and kick game. I don't disagree. But we never pick and pop him we only pick and roll him. He should be taking 2 3's a game with the bench, and try and pull bigs away from the rim. Then put PWat in the dunker spot while Saric is popping. That would be better spacing IMO. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 27, 2024 15:20:32 GMT -5
Saric is 6'10 225 pounds and has been playing center exclusively for the past 5 years. let's not overthink things now. Malone needs to rediscover his hockey shift roots and just commit to developing a bench chemistry. there's no reason why a big that can shoot won't thrive in Russ' drive and kick game. Saric played PF 60% of the time two seasons ago and tore his ACL the season before that. He has only played more C than PF in two individual years of his career and he wasn't good last season. That's why he was available. He's not a center by trade. He's settled into a center role because his mobility (and effort) fell off a cliff. If he doesn't hit 3s he's completely worthless. That's the reality of the situation for us. He has to hit close to 40% on good volume. Period. |
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Post by Coach Sticky on Oct 27, 2024 16:23:15 GMT -5
Christian Braun = All-Star I predict Braun will be the first ever all-star teammate Jokic has. NT has been going downhill it’s not even funny anymore |
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